AhmadSyahir
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They can use the same name, but they can be another person.
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Critic on Islam
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They can use the same name, but they can be another person.
I'm going back to when the Taliban had a Government in Afghanistan,unsurprisingly only Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and the United Arab Emirates recognised the Taliban as Afghanistan's legitimate Government and its not hard to figure out why,Pushtun and Pakistan are cool hangouts for them.
Even Deobandi Muslim clerics speak out against them:
MUMBAI: Taliban leader Hakimullah Mehsud's pronouncement that he will turn to India once "goals'' in Pakistan are achieved has outraged leading clerics and Muslim leaders in India. Jamiatul Ulema-e-Hind, a body of religious leaders, is convening a three-day conclave in Deoband in the first week of November where Taliban's ideology of sanctioning suicide bombing will be roundly denounced.
Disturbed at Mehsud's provocative statement, the Jamiatul Ulema-e-Hind is gearing up for an ideological fight with the so-called jihadis. "The Taliban, who sanction suicide bombings, are enemies of Islam. Committing suicide is haram (prohibited) in Islam and suicide bombers will go straight to jahanum (hell),'' said Maulana Hameed Noamani, Jamiatul Ulema's spokesperson.
There are plenty of Muslims who have spoken out against the Taliban,you want us to see a misunderstood group of good Guys when the truth is they are what they have always been,criminals.
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AhmadSyahir
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Which Taliban? See the Taliban that I'm talking about in this link: LiveLeak.com - Taliban - Behind the Masks
Those muslim that spoke against Taliban is the same. They afraid to help their
brother of the same faith and when their brother rise to defend their land, other muslim just speak against them. Other muslim just watch their fellow muslim's country attacked by the infidels and not even giving them a hand.
Another theory is misunderstanding that created by media. I don't blame anyone. I'll jump a conclusion when everything is clear.
The Taliban in the video is the locals who fight for their hometown.
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AhmadSyahir
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Yes he is brave. Rich young man turn poor just because he is coward enough to left his life which is full of luxury and fight for great reason?
Well, going into an unbalance war is so-called 'suicide' too right? But the main point is to die with honor or win the battle without sacrificing life before the battle has even started. Suicide bombing has always be a good story from the west. I know there's video of them but i can feel there's something 'fishy' is going on.
AhmadSyahir
Active Member
List all that person you just said. And of course those who do so-called 'sucide' thing.*not fun thing
I don't know him well as I know my friend but if he's so brave, there must be a reason. I'm not jumping any conclusion until I truly know.
Majikthise
nude
Problem is , IMO, and the opinion of many others well versed in history, violence towards unbelievers is not the antithesis of Islam. It is required.
AhmadSyahir
Active Member
It's required in certain condition. If by raising the arms is the only way, then battle it will be.
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Majikthise
nude
Your honesty is most refreshing. I'm not being sarcastic.
AhmadSyahir
Active Member
For me, there's no point to deny the truth. I should explain the fact, not changing the fact.
If they are locals perhaps they should call a ceasefire and partake in an election,then if they lose they should go back to the Pushtun hills and Goatherding,ok back to reality,like i said criminals
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AhmadSyahir
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If they are locals perhaps they should call a ceasefire and partake in an election,then if they lose they should go back to the Pushtun hills and Goatherding,ok back to reality,like i said criminals
The reason for Hamas and Taliban still exist is to bring justice. People can make you look bad but cannot change the fact. Same goes to the political condition in my country(only one party is allowed to make 'good' statement on the media *obvious). They make others look bad on media but their fake story is nothing but rubbish. Pity for those who believe the 'rubbish' on the media. British Empire? Since when did the British Empire has fall apart?
Taliban consist of locals. There's no reasons for them to kill their own people. The Taliban will not get any locals' support if they are like how they're portrayed by the media. Same goes to Hamas.
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Tell the Taliban that then,tell all Muslims who commit murder via a suicide bombing that both acts are Haram,i don't know why i'm bothering telling you this,if you are a Muslim shouldn't you know?.
Hamas are best portrayed by their covenant which i have provided a link for you to see for yourself.
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AhmadSyahir
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It's only an objective. Like the police department, they work for the country to maintain peace.
Hamas work for the religion to save their land. It's only a current objective of a department. It only mean that they really into saving their land from Israel.
Israel has always been criticized in Quran. It was told that many prophet were send to Israel. In Al-Quran, they're called with the name of 'Bani Israel' which is exactly the name of the current country. Israel is the nickname of a prophet. His descendant is called 'Bani Israel'. It may sound racist.
Suicide bombing is exactly the problem that I'm talking about. It's true that suicide bombing is forbidden but do they really commit that? This is the 'rubbish'.
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Wait. Are you denying that these so-called Muslims aren't committing suicide bombings? How do you explain the dozens of people dying as a result? Who is doing them then? The Taliban may have started with a noble cause, but they no longer are anything near noble. The current horrible state of Pakistan and Afghanistan is a clear sign.
What proof do you have they it's "rubbish"?
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Judging by the amount of dead bodies i guess they really do,the rubbish you talk of are Human beings,the Taliban are a blight on Afghanistan and Pakistan,they are,as i said before a terrible representative of Islam.
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AhmadSyahir
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I don't believe news from the 'army' of Bani Israel. Whoever can make that suicide bombing. Whether it was set or it's the work of a small group that claimed to be the Taliban. The most obvious thing is that we only see things from the so-called 'good' side but we never heard an open statement of the Taliban people. Being a Taliban is not that hard. You can wear mask like them and claim that you're the Taliban. I only heard from one side. I don't hear even a bit story from the other side. I don't dump the Taliban until I have seen them with my own eyes. I believe in Taliban because they're the only hope of the Afghans. Another muslim country don't even bother about the affair of their fellow muslim. Isn't there any justice for Islam in their land? Insya'allah there will be.
There's a rally in my country. A man was killed in the rally but it's denied in the news by the government. Easy isn't? The problem is, there's a video of the man that died in the incident. A very clear video. The government give their 'army' a handcuff but forgot how to uncuff. Government take some weeks to post the video of the rally in news, but the video is uploaded just after the rally begun. It look like the government in my country take sometimes to photoshop the scene. My country is not that good in faking story but I think other country is better. Faking reality into a 'good' news.
The latest 'rubbish' in my country is about a man jump from a building. Coincidence happened at the time. All of the CCTV in the current 'Goverment' building is not functioning. Faking a story is not that hard if we have what it takes. This is an example of turning news into reality.
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AhmadSyahir
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Israel want Hamas to banish right? Why can't Hamas want Israel to be gone?
Yes. It sound the same as Bani Israel.
Suicide bombing can be set by anyone. Do you know why it's hard for american army to kill the Taliban? It's because they're dressing like civilian and wearing mask. It's hard to determined which is Taliban and civilian. I also think that they receive support from the locals.
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dyanaprajna2011
Dharmapala
It's true that the media and governments hide and cover up stories that they don't want to be seen. But you cannot deny something just because you don't like it or don't agree with it. You cannot deny that there are groups, such as Hamas and the the Taliban, that are nothing more than ruthless murderers using religion to justify their immoral actions. I understand that Muslims in predominantly Muslim nations want to protect their way of life, and they should have the right to do so. However, committing atrocities against other nations and cultures on their own soil is not the way to go about this. Take Israel for example. It's there, and Muslims who don't want it to be there are just going to have to get over it. Muslims should be more worried about themselves than people they don't like or agree with.
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