Defend Marriage Between a Man and a Woman!

[9Westy9]

Hi there! I'm interrupting this argument to announce that this is the 300th post in this thread. And I posted it! I did! Not you. Not anyone of you who have been participating in this thread, but me. Which means, I win! Yes, I win! I did the 300th post, I win! Score!

Everyone knows that 301st post is more important than 300th post.

 

[Viker]

Everyone knows that 301st post is more important than 300th post.

Naw. 302nd! All the way, baby!

 

[Kathryn]

Defective.
Nice.



Get back to me when you get some real life experience.

Right - so now I guess according to Martin, that natural aging is defective too.

Should people get divorced once they can no longer bear children? Or should old guys (who can still father kids) dump their post menopausal wives and marry younger women? But how would that be beneficial to the kids, since the old guy may die before they even know him?

THIS MAKES NO SENSE! lol

 

[waitasec]

Right - so now I guess according to Martin, that natural aging is defective too.

Should people get divorced once they can no longer bear children? Or should old guys (who can still father kids) dump their post menopausal wives and marry younger women? But how would that be beneficial to the kids, since the old guy may die before they even know him?

THIS MAKES NO SENSE! lol

he's shortsighted.

 

[McBell]

he's shortsighted.

I nominate this post for the "understatement of the year" award.

 

[waitasec]

I nominate this post for the "understatement of the year" award.

:takeabow:

 

[Polymorphic Grass]

i think being gay is wrong but i dont think its rite too make gay marrage illegal. just because i think its wrong. a lot of peple think christian is bad but does it make me illegal for believing in GOD? athiests can think i am bad and i can think being gay is wrong but i dont think the goverment should have anything to do with this.

 

[waitasec]

i think being gay is wrong but i dont think its rite too make gay marrage illegal. just because i think its wrong. a lot of peple think christian is bad but does it make me illegal for believing in GOD? athiests can think i am bad and i can think being gay is wrong but i dont think the goverment should have anything to do with this.

i appreciate this sentiment.


i would also like to add, that it is because of the stigma that homosexuality is wrong is why we have this double standard in the 1st place.

question is, and it's a question not many really want to get to the bottom of,
how is it wrong?

 

[Gjallarhorn]

i think being gay is wrong but i dont think its rite too make gay marrage illegal. just because i think its wrong. a lot of peple think christian is bad but does it make me illegal for believing in GOD? athiests can think i am bad and i can think being gay is wrong but i dont think the goverment should have anything to do with this.

I agree the government should be left out.

However, saying gay is wrong is essentially eugenics. It is not a choice anymore than being heterosexual is a choice. If you care about action, not emotion, then once again there is nothing wrong, as all acts performed by homosexuals can (for the most part) be done by heterosexual couples and be "right". If it's about childbirthing, then once again there is nothing wrong, unless you think sterile couples are also wrong.

Ramble over.

 

[Trey of Diamonds]

opcorn:

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

However, saying gay is wrong is essentially eugenics.

No it's not.

I disagree with the sentiment, but I don't think that merely saying "gay is wrong" necessarily implies anything about any particular approach toward gay people.

 

[Me Myself]

Has anyone else found it so Ironic that initially gay meant happy and Christinaity says gay is wrong?

I Just find it too ironic

 

[Road Warrior]

Has anyone else found it so Ironic that initially gay meant happy and Christinaity says gay is wrong?

I Just find it too ironic

A good observation, although I wouldn't lump all Christians together as saying "gay is wrong" as many have attested here.

Blessing of same-sex unions in Christian churches - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Due to its "local option", a number of congregations and ministers of the United Church of Canada (a merger of Congregationalist, Presbyterian and Methodist congregations in Canada following presbyterian polity) officiate at same-sex marriages, which are fully legal in Canada.
The Anglican Church of Canada does not distinguish theologically between a marriage solemnized in church and a civil marriage subsequently blessed by a priest. Currently, three dioceses – New Westminster, Niagara, and Montréal – extend the blessing of civil marriages to same-sex couples. Procedures for blessings are in development in Ottawa and Toronto. In 2010 the General Synod of the Anglican Church of Canada voted to study a proposal to bless only those marriages that have been civilly registered, even where marriage is reserved to heterosexual couples, abrogating the role of clergy as delegates of the provincial registrar altogether.
The Lutheran Church of Sweden has performed full same-sex marriages beginning since November 2009. It previously blessed same-sex couples using a different ceremony.[6]
In November 2011, the Government of Denmark announced that there will be same-sex religious marriage available in the Church of Denmark as part of the broader legislative move to recognise same sex marriage[7] A similar debate is currently underway in the Church of Iceland following legislation to permit same sex marriage in Iceland[8].
The predominantly gay Universal Fellowship of Metropolitan Community Churches performs same-sex marriages.[9]
The Mennonite Church in the Netherlands offers marriage to both heterosexual and same-gender couples.[10]
The Affirming Pentecostal Church International and the Global Alliance of Affirming Apostolic Pentecostals are US based denominations of Oneness Pentecostals that will perform weddings for both heterosexual and same-sex couples.[11]
The Unitarian Universalists perform same-sex marriages.[12]
The Swedenborgian Church of North America allows ministers to choose whether to perform same-sex marriages.[13]
Same-sex couples have been married under the care of many "unprogrammed" Quaker meetings in Canada since 1992.[14] British Quaker meetings celebrate same-sex commitments by a special act of worship but none has yet called this marriage. In Australia, Canberra Quaker meeting celebrated the marriage of two gay men on 15 April 2007.[15][16][17][18] Australian Quakers are prepared to celebrate same-sex marriages despite the lack of legal recognition.[19] See Quaker views of homosexuality
Many smaller denominations, such as the Eucharistic Catholic Church and the Old Catholic Church (in Sweden)[20] also solemnize same-sex marriages.

 

[Me Myself]

Given that I see myself as a Christian, netierh would I

 

[Gjallarhorn]

No it's not.

I disagree with the sentiment, but I don't think that merely saying "gay is wrong" necessarily implies anything about any particular approach toward gay people.

I regret using that term. It was the only thing that came to mind when I was looking for "disliking people based on genetic variation". Racism didn't fit either. :sorry1:

 

[Polymorphic Grass]

i appreciate this sentiment.


i would also like to add, that it is because of the stigma that homosexuality is wrong is why we have this double standard in the 1st place.

question is, and it's a question not many really want to get to the bottom of,
how is it wrong?

well i thiink god made adam and eve and not adam and steve but relly i think religon and gov is not in the same family. its o.k. to be gay i have gay frends i like for who peple are not what they are

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

well i thiink god made adam and eve and not adam and steve but relly i think religon and gov is not in the same family. its o.k. to be gay i have gay frends i like for who peple are not what they are

Actually, if you go by a literal reading of Genesis, God first made Adam and a succession of different animals as potential mates for him. He only made Eve after Adam decided that none of the animals were to his liking.

... so really, the original "God-approved" arrangement is bestiality.

... if we're going by Genesis, which I assume you are with your "Adam and Steve" comment.

 

[Polymorphic Grass]

i respect yu intrepatation of it i have no influens on soceity sorry if you not respect my opinon that its wrong
im voting to support it but think wrong so it o.k.

 

[McBell]

well i thiink god made adam and eve and not adam and steve but relly i think religon and gov is not in the same family. its o.k. to be gay i have gay frends i like for who peple are not what they are

Oh please.
Trying to use Adam and Eve as evidence of gods wanting marriage to be between man and woman is nothing more than trying to make the story mean more than it means.

The fact of the matter is that Adam could have been a flaming homosexual and Eve a bull dyke and it would not change the storyline.

Adam and Eve have no other choice but each other.
Simple as that.

 

[9Westy9]

i think being gay is wrong but i dont think its rite too make gay marrage illegal. just because i think its wrong. a lot of peple think christian is bad but does it make me illegal for believing in GOD? athiests can think i am bad and i can think being gay is wrong but i dont think the goverment should have anything to do with this.

You sound a lot like me when I was a believer