Defend Marriage Between a Man and a Woman!

[Pegg]

How so?

this is my own opinion, i think it might cause some young people to wonder what is normal for them... they would generally see what is normal human behavior based on what they see from their parents, thats where we learn our behaviors. Imagine if you grow up with only females as your parents...how would you know what it means to be a man if you are a male?

and its the same for girls brought up only by 2 men...how would she know how to be a woman if her two role models are both men?

 

[Drolefille]

this is my own opinion, i think it might cause some young people to wonder what is normal for them... they would generally see what is normal human behavior based on what they see from their parents, thats where we learn our behaviors. Imagine if you grow up with only females as your parents...how would you know what it means to be a man if you are a male?

and its the same for girls brought up only by 2 men...how would she know how to be a woman if her two role models are both men?

Single parents raise children of the opposite genders all the time. Children are raised with abysmal examples of 'being a man' in cases where the father is abusive. They end up being well adjusted adults because as a society we're exposed to many different interactions with adults who teach us what it means to be X.

Children raised in opposite sex households, including anti-homosexuality households, still "wonder what is normal" for them and come out as gay or lesbian or bisexual, etc. Being raised by same-sex parents won't change that.

 

[Father Heathen]

this is my own opinion, i think it might cause some young people to wonder what is normal for them... they would generally see what is normal human behavior based on what they see from their parents, thats where we learn our behaviors. Imagine if you grow up with only females as your parents...how would you know what it means to be a man if you are a male?

and its the same for girls brought up only by 2 men...how would she know how to be a woman if her two role models are both men?

Some things come naturally, and there are people other than their parents that children observe and interact with. It's a big world out there, and children become their own person in it.

 

[blackout]

Marriage between a man and a woman can be a beautiful, sacred state of being.

Marriage between a man and a man can be a beautiful, sacred state of being.
Marriage between a woman and a woman can be a beautiful, sacred state of being.

Also, non-married partnerships between all previously listed couples,
can be a beautiful, sacred state of being.

 

[Father Heathen]

Marriage between a man and a man can be a beautiful, sacred state of being.
Marriage between a woman and a woman can be a beautiful, sacred state of being.

Also, non-married partnerships between all previously listed couples,
can be a beautiful, sacred state of being.

:clap:clap:clap

 

[Me Myself]

I defend marriage between a man and a woman who love each other and who are happy to be married. I always have and I always will.

Now, any marriage that feels insecure because some new people can now get married had a lot of internal issues to deal with in the first place, and I see the belief of homosexual marriage as a threat to ANY human relationship to be crazy and nonsensical, and not even in the funny way.

 

[blackout]

Children don't need a mother and a father.

They need love.
They need nutritional/healthy food and water.
They need shelter. Safe, clean... the nicer the better.
More than that, they need a home.
They sometimes need medical attention.
They need exercise.
They need intellectual stimulation.
They do best with opportunities
to develop their natural talents.
They are afforded more options and opportunities
in economically able households.
They need responsible adults
as guardians,
who are well equipt
to mentally and emotionally engage positively with,
and develop and bring out the best
in who they are.

They need care. They need to be cared about.
They need to know that they are special.
They need to know that they are special
to the people who are most special to them.

At the end of the day,
the genders of those loving guardians
comes way down last on the list
as generally inconsequential.

Compatable personality and interests would
come up WAY higher than the incidental of 'gender'.

Every child should be genuinely loved,
and upheld as precious and special
by at least one capable adult,
who raises them up
to love, develop and Live true to Their Own Self.
(meaning the Child's Own Self)


This, is enough.

Two or more adults like this in any child's life
and they are truly lucky.

 

[T-Dawg]

Marriage between a man and a woman can be a beautiful, sacred state of being.

Irrelevant, denied.
(The statement is false, but more importantly, a non sequitur. The beauty of a marriage between a man and a woman is not relevant to the issue of allowing homosexuals to marry, unless you're arguing that we should force them to marry heterosexually so that they will be more beautiful or something.)

isn't love sacred...it doesn't matter if it's between a man and a woman
it has to be between two people. period.

No, it's not sacred, only logic and empirical reality can be sacred. In many cases, love is evil.
Why does it have to be between two people? I could be reading too much into it, but your statement could be interpreted as an attack on polygamy.

this is my own opinion, i think it might cause some young people to wonder what is normal for them... they would generally see what is normal human behavior based on what they see from their parents, thats where we learn our behaviors. Imagine if you grow up with only females as your parents...how would you know what it means to be a man if you are a male?

and its the same for girls brought up only by 2 men...how would she know how to be a woman if her two role models are both men?

People have role models other than their parents. Why, if my only role models were my parents (who happen to be one man and one woman), I wouldn't be anywhere near as close to being a decent human being as I am now. In fact, I don't really view my parents as being role models at all. If anything, they're a cautionary tale.

 

[waitasec]

No, it's not sacred, only logic and empirical reality can be sacred. In many cases, love is evil.
Why does it have to be between two people? I could be reading too much into it, but your statement could be interpreted as an attack on polygamy.

ok at least 2 ppl

 

[Me Myself]

this is my own opinion, i think it might cause some young people to wonder what is normal for them... they would generally see what is normal human behavior based on what they see from their parents, thats where we learn our behaviors. Imagine if you grow up with only females as your parents...how would you know what it means to be a man if you are a male?

and its the same for girls brought up only by 2 men...how would she know how to be a woman if her two role models are both men?

If they attended any decent biology class they should know that being a man means that they were born with a penis o.o ...

Now, going to the important stuff. How can a boy feel it is worth something if he was raised by an orphanage instead of people who really loved and cared for him?

the question doesn't change if I say "girl". about what is "normal", well, normal has nothing to do with good or bad, it just has to do with avarage. There are too many WRONG "normal" things.

I had both a father and a mother and I still sucked trying to seduce a girl , children rarely ask their fathers how to do this, and those who do, just some times get it right, because not every father knew the most efficient way to ge a lady in HIS time, then asking for it to work TODAY and work when done by his kid is asking too much.

You don't learn how to pick up girls by speaking to boys. That, I can tell you. Either you have it in your veins, or you learn it in the fly. Or you just do really freaky stuff until a pretty lady raises and eyebrow and somehow that happens to be a good thing. (which is how I got a gf )

No one becomes a better husband or wife because they were raised by an orphanage instead of loving parents, that I can tell you for sure. No matter the sexes of the relationship, for it to be good they need pretty much the same stuff: love, commitment, the ability to compromise, responsability, etc. Both man AND woman need this in a functional heterosexual relationship, what makes you think there is any relevant gender role differences into it?

I talked about how getting a girl doesnt have anything to do with the sex of your fathers, but do tell me any other subject you may think has anything to do with the sex of your fathers. I am sure me or many others in this page can show you how that is not at all the case.

 

[nnmartin]

how and why can we redefine words just to fit in with our agenda?

let's say I like heroin, can I just reclassify it as a 'stimulant' and then make it legal.

what's the difference between this and marriage?

 

[waitasec]

how and why can we redefine words just to fit in with our agenda?

well for starters...gay meant happy...

let's say I like heroin, can I just reclassify it as a 'stimulant' and then make it legal.

what's the difference between this and marriage?

the difference here is that heroin is not something you are...

 

[Me Myself]

how and why can we redefine words just to fit in with our agenda?

let's say I like heroin, can I just reclassify it as a 'stimulant' and then make it legal.

what's the difference between this and marriage?

^WARNING, that's a bait.

 

[nnmartin]

the difference here is that heroin is not something you are...

studies show that some people are born with an 'addictive personality' - this is encoded in the genes.

So if I can redefine marriage to fit in with my DNA then surely I can do the same with drugs?

 

[waitasec]

studies show that some people are born with an 'addictive personality' - this is encoded in the genes.

So if I can redefine marriage to fit in with my DNA the surely I can do the same with drugs?

yes, it happens all the time...

 

[Falvlun]

how and why can we redefine words just to fit in with our agenda?

let's say I like heroin, can I just reclassify it as a 'stimulant' and then make it legal.

what's the difference between this and marriage?

Because allowing two people of the same gender doesn't actually hurt anybody?

Words get redefined all the time. And it's not the first time marriage was altered in order to keep up with civil rights. Or should people of two different races not be allowed to get married either?

 

[blackout]

People are not the roles they model.

'Role' modeling
is about wearing different hats
(skirts, pants suits, togas, cloaks, veils and daggers) with flair.

So many people confuse themselves with the roles they play.

 

[LongGe123]

this is my own opinion, i think it might cause some young people to wonder what is normal for them... they would generally see what is normal human behavior based on what they see from their parents, thats where we learn our behaviors. Imagine if you grow up with only females as your parents...how would you know what it means to be a man if you are a male?

and its the same for girls brought up only by 2 men...how would she know how to be a woman if her two role models are both men?

but this doesn't explain how kids who grow up in heterosexual marriages learn that being normal for them is being gay

 

[waitasec]

this is my own opinion, i think it might cause some young people to wonder what is normal for them...

at one point, i was very close to swallowing a bottle of sleeping pills because i wasn't "normal" like my parents

 

[blackout]

but this doesn't explain how kids who grow up in heterosexual marriages learn that being normal for them is being gay

Good parents are concerned with encouraging their children to be who they truly are--
not who they (the parents) WANT them to be.