Defend Marriage Between a Man and a Woman!

[LongGe123]

Good parents are concerned with encouraging their children to be who they truly are--
not who they (the parents) WANT them to be.

yes you're right. i was merely pointing out the flaw in the other posters argument that kids need to see what "normal" is or whatever, which fails to address that many gay people come from "normal" heterosexual families...which is obvious, i guess. haha. But, anyway, it can't possibly serve as an argument against same-sex marriage

 

[blackout]

yes you're right. i was merely pointing out the flaw in the other posters argument that kids need to see what "normal" is or whatever, which fails to address that many gay people come from "normal" heterosexual families...which is obvious, i guess. haha. But, anyway, it can't possibly serve as an argument against same-sex marriage

I knew what you meant.

I was pretty much just agreeing and adding on to what you said.

 

[nnmartin]

Words get redefined all the time. And it's not the first time marriage was altered in order to keep up with civil rights. Or should people of two different races not be allowed to get married either?

ok, so who decides on what can be redefined and what not?

Was there ever a vote on this issue?

 

[blackout]

ok, so who decides on what can be redefined and what not?

Was there ever a vote on this issue?

Was there ever a vote on the issue of wives no longer being the property of their husband?

 

[Heathen Hammer]

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Homosexuality is becoming not only accepted, but even encouraged at times. I understand that many with same-sex preferences have been through hell. Many have been sexually abused. Many have been struggled with their feelings & many have been treated badly for their aparent or actual sexual preferences.
I believe it's important to love everyone, no matter what their preferences. Loving someone means to want the best for them, even if it means telling them truth they don't want to hear.

I care about you, and Im going to tell you this because of that, even though it's a truth you don't want to hear.

You're a bigot. And your reasons for being a bigot are all wrong.

 

[blackout]

Bigotry is becoming not only accepted, but even encouraged at times. I understand that many with opposite-sex mandates have been through hell. Many have been mentally and religiously abused and sexually repressed and stifled.
Many have struggled with their feelings & many have been treated badly for their aparent or actual sexual bigotry and judgementalism.
I believe it's important to love everyone, no matter what their indoctrination and predjudices. Loving someone means to want the best for them, even if it means telling them truth they don't want to hear.

 

[mycorrhiza]

7. There are many ex-homosexuals"

Nope. There are many people leading unhappy lives because they fooled themselves into thinking that they're straight when they aren't though.

Your religion really doesn't decide what a marriage is, because marriage has existed in many cultures and religions and some of these have allowed gay marriage.

 

[Kathryn]

Therefore?

Therefore, proceed at your own risk.

 

[Kathryn]

Irrelevant, denied.
(The statement is false, but more importantly, a non sequitur. The beauty of a marriage between a man and a woman is not relevant to the issue of allowing homosexuals to marry, unless you're arguing that we should force them to marry heterosexually so that they will be more beautiful or something.)

Your opinion only.

By the way, the OP asked for a defense of marriage between a man and a woman. My comment of "Marriage between a man and a woman can be beautiful and sacred" is in defense of some marriages between some men and some women - which is relevant to the OP. It doesn't negate any other relationships.

 

[bobhikes]

Don't forget to ban divorce completely. After all, if we're going to defend marriage as something so sacred that it can only occur between a man and a woman, we need to protect it from those Hollywood types who engage in marriage stunts or 2-day marriages.

I actually think this is a good idea.

Allow anyone one and everyone to get married only require Jail time for people who get divorsed. Greater Jail time for parents with kids to be servered after the kids are over 18 of course.

This will resolve all problems with marriage

 

[bobhikes]

So Here's a thought,
I like the term marriage to stay as is between a man and woman.

I would like the term Civil Union to represent all other joint relationships.

I would like the same governmental rights granted to both Civil Unions and Marriages.

There by allowing certain religions to preserve their sanctity of marriage and allowing all peoples the right to have a spouce of choice supported by the government.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

So Here's a thought ...

It is, indeed, a thought, albeit not a particularly good one.

There by allowing certain religions to preserve their sanctity of marriage ...

"Their sanctity"?

 

[Heathen Hammer]

History has shown that separate but equal does not work. All marriage, or nothin'.

 

[Kathryn]

How 'bout the state not defining marriage at all? Leave the state out of it - and everyone - gay or straight - gets a civil union. Then you can call your own civil union whatever you want to call it.

 

[Road Warrior]

Exactly. That's why it is important to keep church and state separate. Regardless of where the ceremony is performed, whether in a church or a courthouse, the law, IAW with the 14th Amendment, should see them as identical.

 

[blackout]

I actually think this is a good idea.

Allow anyone one and everyone to get married only require Jail time for people who get divorsed. Greater Jail time for parents with kids to be servered after the kids are over 18 of course.

This will resolve all problems with marriage

Yeah. Only the completely delusional would sign into that one.

 

[Heathen Hammer]

How 'bout the state not defining marriage at all? Leave the state out of it - and everyone - gay or straight - gets a civil union. Then you can call your own civil union whatever you want to call it.

Given that it's the state that needs to recognize the specific rights of a bonded couple, the state cannot be left out of it at all. The names are relevant in the public psyche, which is why I noted that history shows that a division in terms can actually lead to rights violations - which again involves either the state, or the fed, depending.

 

[blackout]

Given that it's the state that needs to recognize the specific rights of a bonded couple, the state cannot be left out of it at all. The names are relevant in the public psyche, which is why I noted that history shows that a division in terms can actually lead to rights violations - which again involves either the state, or the fed, depending.

I'm pretty sure Kathryn is saying, give everyone equal/the same marriage rights (we already have in place now),
but slap a few different letters and syllables on there,
so that people can continue to make (the word) 'marriage' mean whatever they personally want it to.
People will defend their favorite progressions of sounds and letters (spelled and spoken words) to the death.

Words are very powerful to the human psyche.
Many people cannot distinguish between their symbols for things,
and the things themselves.
Words, are symbols for things.
To the human mind, the idea of 'keeping the word'
can quite easily equate 'keeping the thing'.

 

[Kathryn]

Given that it's the state that needs to recognize the specific rights of a bonded couple, the state cannot be left out of it at all. The names are relevant in the public psyche, which is why I noted that history shows that a division in terms can actually lead to rights violations - which again involves either the state, or the fed, depending.

I'm not talking about a DIVISION of terms. Let the state call ALL unions civil unions.

 

[Cecile]

How about just letting people do what they want with their own lives and leaving all your facts and figures out of it. The real problem is people telling others how to live. Keep your religion to yourself, you big silly.