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Deidre's Journey

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@Deidre upstream a couple of pages earlier you mentioned not believing in what the Catholic church calls a saint. I know the conversation has moved on but as I was catching up in this thread, that post caught my eye. The Catholic church has its own thoughts about sainthood but in a very general sense, so does the East. This poem by Rumi examines their nature. And as Shams of Tabriz, "Shamsudin", was Rumi's teacher and a "Man of God" to Rumi, there is that perspective as well.

The Man of God is drunken without wine
The Man of God is sated without meat
The Man of God is rapturous, amazed
The Man of God has neither food nor sleep
The Man of God is a king beneath a humble cloak
The Man of God is a treasure in a ruin
The Man of God in not of wind and earth
The Man of God is not of fire and water
The Man of God is a sea without a shore
The Man of God rains pearls without a cloud
The Man of God has a hundred moons and skies
The Man of God has hundred sunshines
The Man of God is wise through Truth
The Man of God is not a scholar from a book
The Man of God is beyond faith and disbelief alike
For the Man of God what sin and merit is there?
The Man of God rode away from Non-being
The Man of God has come, sublimely riding
The Man of God Is, Concealed, O Shamsudin!
Search for, and find - The Man of God.
 
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Deidre

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@sunrise123 - I like that ^^ In my mind though, a man/woman of God isn't necessarily a 'saint.' Sainthood in my opinion, seems to imply that there are people who ''do a better job'' at following God than others. It reeks of rules to me that need to be followed, and once followed, God will grant that person sainthood in heaven. Like a promotion or something. lol The Catholic Church has a need to diminish God to following our rules, imo.
 
Spiderman

Spiderman

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Deidre said:
Dear journal;

Song in my mind today, because I'm so in love, and it feels so right.

This love, this marriage, this man I've taken vows with, I can only say that it's the most amazing mixture of feelings I've ever had.

Love is a beautiful thing, but also a very scary thing. Maybe that's the point. Only something worth losing...is worth having.

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I'm so happy for you Dee...that you have that kind of love in your life and a happy marriage... you are blessed! :heart:
 
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Deidre

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Dear diary,

I found out from my dad that my grandfather (my dad's dad) was middle eastern. He was adopted and raised by Italians in Italy, but his bio parents were apparently middle eastern. I assumed my grandfather was Italian. So, I guess that means I'm probably 1/3 middle eastern? A most interesting thing to learn. So, my ethnic background is Italian, middle eastern and Irish. This explains why many people mistake me for middle eastern, even though I have green eyes, and lighter skin. I don't know why my dad never told me this until today, but ...I'm grateful to know. I wonder who my grandfather's bio siblings were, and if I have cousins out there somewhere in the middle east? I will find out maybe...someday. But, wow, I'm really amazed at this news and not mad at my father or anything, maybe he had his reasons for not telling me, and now that his mom passed away (my grandmother who I was most close to) a few years ago, he felt like I should know.

What would our ancestral ghosts tell us if they could wander into our lives and talk to us...I'd definitely pull up a chair to listen. :blush:
 
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Spiderman

Spiderman

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Deidre said:
Dear diary,

I found out from my dad that my grandfather (my dad's dad) was middle eastern. He was adopted and raised by Italians in Italy, but his bio parents were apparently middle eastern. I assumed my grandfather was Italian. So, I guess that means I'm probably 1/3 middle eastern? A most interesting thing to learn. So, my ethnic background is Italian, middle eastern and Irish. This explains why many people mistake me for middle eastern, even though I have green eyes, and lighter skin. I don't know why my dad never told me this until today, but ...I'm grateful to know. I wonder who my grandfather's bio siblings were, and if I have cousins out there somewhere in the middle east? I will find out maybe...someday. But, wow, I'm really amazed at this news and not mad at my father or anything, maybe he had his reasons for not telling me, and now that his mom passed away (my grandmother who I was most close to) a few years ago, he felt like I should know.

What would our ancestral ghosts tell us if they could wander into our lives and talk to us...I'd definitely pull up a chair to listen. :blush:
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That's interesting. I think you look Middle Eastern especially in your black and white photos.

If you're Middle Eastern you're probably Semitic , which means you're a descendant of Abraham, either a descendant of Ishmael or Isaac.. that's awesome Deidre! You are very likely part Jewish, part Arab, or both

Denise Marie naslund, my favorite spiritual guide is half Lebanese, making her half Middle Eastern as well, and she has your middle name and I call her Dee Marie as well...cuz of the D-e-e in her first name...

Alot of Europeans have Middle Eastern in them because of the massive immigration of Semitic people into Europe.... The Middle East was part of the Roman Empire.

Anyway, you have some very powerful and biblical ancestors! I wish they would speak clearly to you, but that is probably one way they're speaking through you is through your dad informing you about your ancestors.

The spirit world often speaks to us in ways that aren't clear... I noticed it's usually through silly coincidences, dreams, or in the case of Denise naslund she speaks to me in strange ways like her ancestors were also Swedish and Vikings, and I just happen to live in the city where the Vikings football team is, and the center of Scandinavian culture is in America, and I happen to have Swedish on my grandma's side which I wouldn't know had it not been for her,so I feel like she's telling me I'm living where I'm supposed to be...

She also leaves me pennies that are dated 1974 the year she was murdered... When I was in jail the only coin I came across was a 1974 penny, and the first 4 letters of the word coincidence are coin. she was also born the first day of the year, Feast of the mother of God, and she has the middle name of the mother of God, and her first name comes from Dionysus the Greek god of wine , intoxicants, religious extacy, and holy Communion...

I don't know what it all means but all of those coincidences speak to me in strange ways and I have lots of dreams about her... In fact I had a dream about her last night, and I always feel like her spirit is with me looking out for me.

I believe your ancestors, your grandma (Grand Dee) and Father Abraham is looking out for you and motivating you to be spiritual and putting you on the right path. :)

God gave a blessing, a very special blessing to all of the descendants of Abraham including Deidre Marie :heart:
 
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Spiderman

Spiderman

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Deidre said:
Yes, I do :)

How are you?
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I'm doing well...I still want to leave this broken body and mind behind and join the spirit world...see what's on the other side... Meet my maker.... But that shall all happen in God's timing not mine... I tried to speed the process up and it only left me in Agony in a wheelchair... So I promise I'll never try that again... I'm too scared of the consequences.
 
Spiderman

Spiderman

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Your name is truly beautiful Deidre Marie... you also have beautiful green eyes, beautiful countenance, and ravishing figure... You Are Forever Young... I feel like I've known you since kindergarten...:blueheart:

Wouldn't that be interesting if you are a descendant of Muhammad? :D

If I were God, one of my greatest Joys would be to have you as my temple :heartarrow:

God loves you tremendously and lives inside you, speaking to the heart... imagine, some of the thoughts you think are yours are actually his... That is quite an interesting mystery to ponder.

Which part of the Bible are you reading? The Song of Solomon is God's love for you:greenheart:
 
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Deidre

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haha I'm reading the things you posted above. :D You make me smile. Thank you for your kindness.

I will say that as I process all of this, while my daily life doesn't change, it makes me realize though how detailed life can be...and how things can change in that detail. If my grandfather hadn't been adopted, then what. If my grandfather had stayed in Italy and then migrated to America as he did, but wasn't adopted, then he might not have married my grandmother. Maybe he would have married someone else from the middle east. Even if everything played out to this very moment, I probably wouldn't be who I am, and in some ways...I just wish I had known the truth all this time, but the truth that I've known, felt like the truth, even though it wasn't the full story of my family's background. It's just a lot to take in, but I'm going to celebrate this new discovery. People do think I look middle eastern, Pope, that's weird you say that.

Just one puzzle piece out of place, and my whole life would have been different. :blush:
 
Spiderman

Spiderman

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Deidre said:
This is nice of you, thank you :sunflower:
(And I like your taqiyah cap)
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Oh I'm glad you know the name of it.... It was given to me by a beloved Muslim that I live with... He's one of the most kind and humble people I've ever met. We faced faced Mecca and prayed on our faces and did studies of the Quran... He also bought me sandals... If every Muslim was like Mustafa, there'd be an insane amount of converts to Islam.
 
DavidFirth

DavidFirth

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PopeADope said:
Oh I'm glad you know the name of it.... It was given to me by a beloved Muslim that I live with... He's one of the most kind and humble people I've ever met. We faced faced Mecca and prayed on our faces and did studies of the Quran... He also bought me sandals... If every Muslim was like Mustafa, there'd be an insane amount of converts to Islam.
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He sounds to me to be a better man than Mohammed ever was.
 
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Deidre

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Dear journal,

My dad and I got into an argument over the fact that I'd like for him to explore our middle eastern heritage...together. He told me he doesn't want to be a ''part of this.'' He apparently is ashamed of this part of his family background. In some ways, I wonder if he's ashamed because my grandfather was adopted, and he feels that his adoptive parents who were Italian, were responsible for raising my grandfather. Not the bio parents (who are middle eastern) who gave him up. I guess that's a valid point, but nonetheless, genetically...I feel this desire to explore my background, now. With or without my dad, but it saddens me that he has hid this from so many people...none of his friends know, no one at church knows, his business associates don't know, so it wasn't only me that he hid it from. I think my dad looks at the middle east and sees radical Islam, and he's blinded by that.

Anyways, that's where I'm at with it all. Going to a middle eastern market soon, to see what to make for dinner. One of my Syrian friends, she is over the moon with this news. She said, ''I always wondered why you looked Iranian.'' lol Oh brother, now everyone thinks I look middle eastern. :D

I'm happy, and hope my father comes around in his own time. But I won't press him.
 
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