Democrat bill passed that bans paramilitary training. You know, Nazis and stuff.

[Revoltingest]

Though that would be perfectly legal under this:

"4. Sport shooting ranges. Unless otherwise prohibited, a person may discharge a firearm on a sport shooting range as defined in Title 30‑A, section 3011, subsection 1 that is within 100 yards of a building if the sport shooting range was established and in regular operation prior to the erection of the building."

Title 12, §11209: Discharge of firearm or archery equipment near dwelling or building

Hunting and shooting culture is a big deal in Maine. Hence why I think the legislation need to specify more clearly that this law is for preventing groups training for the "furtherance of civil disorder" and what is considered "authorized" in terms of "paramilitary training."

Nonetheless, my using an accurized civilian version of
the M14 looks to be possible to consider a violation.

Mine looked different, but it would still give the vapors to sensitive types.

BTW, even though it's a semi-auto with a 20 round mag,
I always shoot single shot. I prefer it.

 

[Twilight Hue]

You should really reconsider you interpretation of my post.

I figure you probably discounted ROTC members in school.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Nonetheless, my using an accurized civilian version of
the M14 looks to be possible to consider a violation.

Mine looked different, but it would still give the vapors to sensitive types.

BTW, even though it's a semi-auto with a 20 round mag,
I always shoot single shot. I prefer it.

I love vintage. Having an M14 must be a thrill to shoot.

 

[Revoltingest]

I love vintage. Having an M14 must be a thrill to shoot.

Especially an M1A Supermatch.
(It's a step up from the National Match version.)
I like accuracy & substantial rifles.
BTW, my scope was the same brand as the rifle.
It was a Springfield 4-14x56 government model.
The range finding reticle was based on human
shoulder width.
I'd be one of the first rounded up for prosecution, eh.

 

[Laniakea]

"Ukraine's Nazis?" Do you believe that just because Putin said it, or do you have some evidence?

Lots of info here if you're really interested: Profile: Who are Ukraine’s far-right Azov regiment?

 

[Laniakea]

These are ****ing neo-Nazis. They are not good people, they do not have good intentions, they do not come in peace. Every country more free than us would not allow it.

Does your negative attitude about them mean that these people do not have the right to assemble and do what they want on their own property if they are being peaceful? The constitution applies to everyone regardless of their viewpoints, don't you agree?

 

[Revoltingest]

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/6981/text/ih

So what happens if some yahoo's in camo want to use and teach military training in conjunction with airsoft, or paint ball?

Or train in an obstacle course?

Or have a shooting range?

Will the People's Democrat Party raid them with a swat team in full military gear themselves, which of course are notably excepted in the bill.

You know, it's just to fight Nazi's and stuff...

'Let’s Talk About the Nazis': Republican Opposing Paramilitary Activity Ban Bill Under Fire

Republican state lawmaker Laurel Libby stood up on the Maine House floor to support the Second Amendment rights and right of freedom of association of neo-Nazis in the Pine Tree State. Rep. Libby, strongly opposing a bill that would place a ban on paramilitary activity or groups working to cause...

www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com

Liberals complain that to own guns you must
belong to an organized militia. Now they
want to make belonging to anything looking
like an organized militia illegal....cuz it makes
one a Nazi....which is illegal to be....right?
Go figure.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Lots of info here if you're really interested: Profile: Who are Ukraine’s far-right Azov regiment?

So, there are Nazi believers in the Ukraine. Well, there are those in every nation I can think of, actually. But the question is, are those people running the government? Are they holding the reins of power?

Okay, Russia doesn't like Nazi's, and wants to "de-Nazify" Ukraine. So how would you feel if Iraq, which doesn't like Jews, decided to "de-Jewify" Israel? As an American, who is it, do you think, that has the right to tell you what to think, what to believe, what party to support? And would you consider that compatible with your rights and freedoms?

So why would you think it right for somewhere else?

 

[Twilight Hue]

Liberals complain that to own guns you must
belong to an organized militia. Now they
want to make belonging to anything looking
like an organized militia illegal....cuz it makes
one a Nazi....which is illegal to be....right?
Go figure.

Of course. Like in my OP title, it's about Nazis and stuff.

They are everywhere. Even under one's bed and closets yelling , "Sieg Heil!"!

Then your bed levitates in the air and you throw up pea soup.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Of course. Like in my OP title, it's about Nazis and stuff.

They are everywhere. Even under one's bed and closets yelling , "Sieg Heil!"!

Then your bed levitates in the air and you throw up pea soup.

Except in this case, yes, there are Nazis, and they pose a risk to the community.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Except in this case, yes, there are Nazis, and they pose a risk to the community.

They haven't done anything as far as I know.

A concern perhaps. I'm sure things will be monitored.

 

[Laniakea]

So, there are Nazi believers in the Ukraine. Well, there are those in every nation I can think of, actually. But the question is, are those people running the government? Are they holding the reins of power?

Okay, Russia doesn't like Nazi's, and wants to "de-Nazify" Ukraine. So how would you feel if Iraq, which doesn't like Jews, decided to "de-Jewify" Israel? As an American, who is it, do you think, that has the right to tell you what to think, what to believe, what party to support? And would you consider that compatible with your rights and freedoms?

So why would you think it right for somewhere else?

That was a very pro-Nazi propaganda piece.
Good luck with those here who don't like Nazis--including ones said to be doing "paramilitary training" on their own property, and don't hold the reins of power.

 

[Laniakea]

Except in this case, yes, there are Nazis, and they pose a risk to the community.

In what way? Have they attacked Jews and killed over a thousand of them, and taken hostages, and then somehow got Biden to turn against the president of our closest middle-east ally?
Or are they simply exercising their first and second amendment rights on their own property in the land of the free?

 

[Revoltingest]

Of course. Like in my OP title, it's about Nazis and stuff.

They are everywhere. Even under one's bed and closets yelling , "Sieg Heil!"!

Then your bed levitates in the air and you throw up pea soup.

I hate it when that happens.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

They haven't done anything as far as I know.

A concern perhaps. I'm sure things will be monitored.

A group of white supremacists training as a militia while staging protests against various minorities with slogans like "there will be blood" and "keep New England white" is a concern. It's intimidation; ultimately terrorism with a high potential for violence. The minorities they threaten have the right to exist in their community without the threat of danger.

They have the right to protest and bear arms: until that right interferes with another person's right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

 

[Laniakea]

A group of white supremacists training as a militia while staging protests against various minorities with slogans like "there will be blood" and "keep New England white" is a concern. It's intimidation; ultimately terrorism with a high potential for violence. The minorities they threaten have the right to exist in their community without the threat of danger.

They have the right to protest and bear arms: until that right interferes with another person's right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

Ok, when they actually interfere, then something should be done. Until then, they are within their rights to protest.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

In what way? Have they attacked Jews and killed over a thousand of them, and taken hostages, and then somehow got Biden to turn against the president of our closest middle-east ally?

Or are they simply exercising their first and second amendment rights on their own property in the land of the free?

Is threatening behavior and rhetoric that includes training that backs up the threats and rhetoric "simply exercising first and second amendment rights"? Or is terrorism?

American rights are not a shield for terrorist activity.

 

[Laniakea]

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Is threatening behavior and rhetoric that includes training that backs up the threats and rhetoric "simply exercising first and second amendment rights"? Or is terrorism?

American rights are not a shield for terrorist activity.

Be specific. Which actions have they done that you are referring to as "terrorism"? Did they kill anyone, blow up buildings, set businesses on fire, etc?

 

[Revoltingest]

A group of white supremacists training as a militia while staging protests against various minorities with slogans like "there will be blood" and "keep New England white" is a concern. It's intimidation; ultimately terrorism with a high potential for violence. The minorities they threaten have the right to exist in their community without the threat of danger.

They have the right to protest and bear arms: until that right interferes with another person's right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

I've known many militia types who'd be subject to
such a law. None threatened violence. It's bad
policy to make a law predicated upon prejudice.
People have a right to believe awful things like
white supremacy, black supremacy, etc.
What should be illegal is threats, violence, theft,
& such.... not merely being objectionable.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Be specific. Which actions have they done that you are referring to as "terrorism"? Did they kill anyone, blow up buildings, set businesses on fire, etc?

They have threatened harm on others and use violent rhetoric in their protests. For instance "There will be blood," and "Keep New Englad white" and training in military skills. This is terrorism: using violence or threats of violence to achieve a political goal.

The whole point of the legislation is to remove the ability of these groups seeking social disorder to train their members. Does the legislation need work? Sure. But I cannot sympathize with the Nazis being unable to train in violence. They do not have the right to work towards violence and intimidation against other citizens based on their unreasonable hatred.