Democrats say the damnedest things.....

[Sunstone]

What makes someone a racist for calling someone an "Uncle Tom"? Honestly curious as to the reasoning here.

 

[Revoltingest]

Who is he insulting? A black man insulting a black man isn't racist.

Wow! Now the Democrats are entering this thread to provide their own "damnedest" quotes.

 

[4consideration]

What makes someone a racist for calling someone an "Uncle Tom"? Honestly curious as to the reasoning here.

Here's my reasoning:

I think the use of "Uncle Tom" first creates the impression of the person as being a slave, because that was the character of Uncle Tom. I think it's intended as an insult to the autonomous nature of the person to use such imagery.

I think it's used as a dagger for the specific character assassination of a black man that one does not agree with.

Used today, I think it implies there is only one right way a black man ought to be, and if he is different than that expected way, he's a good target for that particular insult -- implying he's not a man first -- he's black first and a man second.

Ironically, if he doesn't go along with what the majority of people seem to think is what a black man ought to think, it's socially acceptable to in some circles to refer to him as be some passive, master pleaser. Of course, he couldn't have a valid and intelligent reason for seeing things differently, now could he? :sarcastic

Why can't a black man see politics differently and just be thought of as being wrong? Why a label of Uncle Tom?

Is there any term specifically originating and associated with the slave era that a black man should consider a compliment, or not object to, if he were called it -- as a label? I don't think so.

 

[Revoltingest]

Here's my reasoning:

I think the use of "Uncle Tom" first creates the impression of the person as being a slave, because that was the character of Uncle Tom. I think it's intended as an insult to the autonomous nature of the person to use such imagery.

I think it's used as a dagger for the specific character assassination of a black man that one does not agree with.

Used today, I think it implies there is only one right way a black man ought to be, and if he is different than that expected way, he's a good target for that particular insult -- implying he's not a man first -- he's black first and a man second.

Ironically, if he doesn't go along with what the majority of people seem to think is what a black man ought to think, it's socially acceptable to in some circles to refer to him as be some passive, master pleaser. Of course, he couldn't have a valid and intelligent reason for seeing things differently, now could he? :sarcastic

Why can't a black man see politics differently and just be thought of as being wrong? Why a label of Uncle Tom?

Is there any term specifically originating and associated with the slave era that a black man should consider a compliment, or not object to, if he were called it -- as a label? I don't think so.

I must've given you a frubie recently, cuz I can't now.
So let me just praise you for a post so cogent that I
thought a man wrote it. Yeah, it's that good.

 

[Sunstone]

Here's my reasoning:

I think the use of "Uncle Tom" first creates the impression of the person as being a slave, because that was the character of Uncle Tom. I think it's intended as an insult to the autonomous nature of the person to use such imagery.

I think it's used as a dagger for the specific character assassination of a black man that one does not agree with.

Used today, I think it implies there is only one right way a black man ought to be, and if he is different than that expected way, he's a good target for that particular insult -- implying he's not a man first -- he's black first and a man second.

Ironically, if he doesn't go along with what the majority of people seem to think is what a black man ought to think, it's socially acceptable to in some circles to refer to him as be some passive, master pleaser. Of course, he couldn't have a valid and intelligent reason for seeing things differently, now could he? :sarcastic

Why can't a black man see politics differently and just be thought of as being wrong? Why a label of Uncle Tom?

Is there any term specifically originating and associated with the slave era that a black man should consider a compliment, or not object to, if he were called it -- as a label? I don't think so.

Interesting line of reasoning, 4con. Worth considering. Thanks!

 

[YmirGF]

Here's my reasoning:

I think the use of "Uncle Tom" first creates the impression of the person as being a slave, because that was the character of Uncle Tom. I think it's intended as an insult to the autonomous nature of the person to use such imagery.

I think it's used as a dagger for the specific character assassination of a black man that one does not agree with.

Used today, I think it implies there is only one right way a black man ought to be, and if he is different than that expected way, he's a good target for that particular insult -- implying he's not a man first -- he's black first and a man second.

Ironically, if he doesn't go along with what the majority of people seem to think is what a black man ought to think, it's socially acceptable to in some circles to refer to him as be some passive, master pleaser. Of course, he couldn't have a valid and intelligent reason for seeing things differently, now could he? :sarcastic

Why can't a black man see politics differently and just be thought of as being wrong? Why a label of Uncle Tom?

Is there any term specifically originating and associated with the slave era that a black man should consider a compliment, or not object to, if he were called it -- as a label? I don't think so.

This is exactly the way I have understood the term. It is hardly a term of endearment in this day and age. In a very real sense it is a veiled racial epithet and intended as such.

 

[esmith]

I have always associated the term "Uncle Tom" as a black person who agreed with his white owner. We are starting to see the "N" word being used within the African-American community and some of those that use it say it is a "term of endearment". I agree with ESPN's Jason Whitlock, Kareem Abdul Jabar, and more that likely others that find this word offensive. Whitlock's COMMENTARY basically summed it up when he said

"As we moved into the Jay-Z era of hip-hop and the pervasive of the N-word ... they had to come up with a justification and the justificatiion was: 'We've taken the power from this word and made it a term of endearment. It's a stupid justification made by people who are making money by degrading black people."

 

[tytlyf]

Wow. Have you ever considered you might be racist? Because your statement certainly is.

Me a racist? Hardly. Please explain how one is a racist when insulting or using a derogatory term towards their own race. Does it make me a racist to call a white person a cracker being that I'm white?

 

[esmith]

Me a racist? Hardly. Please explain how one is a racist when insulting or using a derogatory term towards their own race. Does it make me a racist to call a white person a cracker being that I'm white?

In very simple terms that even you might understand. YES.

From: Racism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Racism and racial discrimination are often used to describe discrimination on an ethnic or cultural basis, independent of whether these differences are described as racial. According to the United Nations convention, there is no distinction between the terms racial discrimination and ethnic discrimination, and superiority based on racial differentiation is scientifically false, morally condemnable, socially unjust and dangerous, and that there is no justification for racial discrimination, in theory or in practice, anywhere.[10]

 

[tytlyf]

In very simple terms that even you might understand. YES.

From: Racism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Still not seeing it. A white person calling another white person a redneck/cracker isn't racist. You may think it is, but you miss the point.

 

[Revoltingest]

Still not seeing it. A white person calling another white person a redneck/cracker isn't racist.

I say it is racist to use such language, but it's far more acceptable within one's own group.
This context sensitive racism is more appropriate for private interactions where it's understood.
But when done publicly, it sends more mixed messages.

 

[tytlyf]

I say it is racist to use such language, but it's far more acceptable within one's own group.
This context sensitive racism is more appropriate for private interactions where it's understood.
But when done publicly, it sends more mixed messages.

I'd say bigoted is the more appropriate word. Not racist when dealing within ones own race.

Racist
-a person who believes in racism, the doctrine that a certain human race is superior to any or all others.

 

[Revoltingest]

I'd say bigoted is the more appropriate word. Not racist when dealing within ones own race.

Either way, I call it wrong.

 

[tytlyf]

Either way, I call it wrong.

Sure, but don't throw it out like it's a racist remark calling him an uncle tom.

 

[Revoltingest]

Sure, but don't throw it out like it's a racist remark calling him an uncle tom.

I calls'm as I sees'm.
And Bennie is a vile partisan racist.
You're free to disagree.

 

[Revoltingest]

Date rape drugs are OK?

In discussing her friend's sexuality, Cyrus remarked, "You know, everyone’s a little bit gay … It’s the truth. Everyone’s gay, all it takes is one cocktail. And if that doesn’t work, sprinkle something in their drink. That’s what I always do."

Miley Cyrus -- Cracks Date Rape Joke During Club Appearance | TMZ.com

Is she a Democrat?
Miley Cyrus & Obama: Singer Tweets Support For President

 

[Revoltingest]

Then-Senator Barack Obama, November 12, 2007: “After seven years of an Administration that has stretched our military to the breaking point, ignored deplorable conditions at some VA hospitals, and neglected the planning and preparation necessary to care for our returning heroes, America’s veterans deserve a President who will fight for them not just when it’s easy or convenient, but every hour of every day for the next four years.”

Note: I don't disagree with him. But oh, the irony!

 

[esmith]

Then-Senator Barack Obama, November 12, 2007: “After seven years of an Administration that has stretched our military to the breaking point, ignored deplorable conditions at some VA hospitals, and neglected the planning and preparation necessary to care for our returning heroes, America’s veterans deserve a President who will fight for them not just when it’s easy or convenient, but every hour of every day for the next four years.”

Note: I don't disagree with him. But oh, the irony!

Why the irony? Seems that he has been down this road since then, he should be quite adept at false sincerity by now. Seems that they are really fumbling the ball on this one.

ABC, National Journal: White House fumbling VA scandal « Hot Air

Video: Obama routinely shocked, angered by things happening within his own administration « Hot Air

White House Distorts American Legion Position on Veterans Controversy - ABC News

 

[Revoltingest]

Joe Garcia (D, FL)
"....we’ve proved that communism works."

It goes to show that Dems smoke the same locoweed as the likes of Palin.

 

[Revoltingest]

It's not about the scientific data...it's how one feels about it.
Kerry Says--Wrongly--Some Temps This Week Broke