dad
Undefeated
You would need to have understanding to recognize it.
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Different Opinions....Who is right?
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dad
Undefeated
No more or less than it would be speculation to assume a nature that was the same in the past.
The way you would show that all creatures would be as likely to leave remains in the past, is to prove the laws and forces (nature) were the same.
Since the records in Scripture record a life that was very different, I would assume it was different. Therefore, the way I would determine that a creature was an exception to the rule and could leave remains would be to look for remains! Sure enough, dinos did!
Saying that nature used to be the same is not good enough, it has to be demonstrated. Especially when you base all science models of the past on that premise!
Simple. Man was not created (nor other creatures) to STAY in the area of the garden! We all were to fill the earth, the planet eventually! That means we needed to go out and travel, and encounter many different environments. A bird may have encountered an area where food was scarce, and/or predators made it difficult to find safe places to feed and reproduce, for example. In the former nature, adapting/evolving was extremely fast. So fast, it is possible that the living creature could have adapted and changed as needed! (although with reproduction being rapid also, we could have had changes via offspring also). So now this bird kind starts to change and lose feathers and wings and get bigger or whatever. Next thing you know, perhaps it is a little dino! Who knows?
Along comes Mr modern scientist, and looks at a fossil of a little dino like thingie that seems to also have feathers. 'Gee, this must be some early ancestor of birds', he says! The poor guy doesn't realize that birds were alive at this same time.
So then we had many creatures in various parts of the world, that had changed a lot. We might even call them another 'kind' of an animal! One trend I seem to see in the fossil record is that it seems to be largely those changed kinds of creatures that seem to have been able to leave remains?! But as I mentioned we don't really know why most creatures could not leave fossilized remains.
Then, along comes the flood of Noah some 1600 years after creation (or whatever the exact time may have been). God now calls the KINDS into the ark! (I assume it is the created kinds, and not all the various evolved changed variations). So, if dinos were not a kind, they don't get called.
So what!!? We were equipped to evolve and adapt a lot and fast. This has nothing to do with TOE.
Great, so who cares? Why would I care how much some bird kinds may have needed to change or etc??
Already done here. They are wrong in basing all models of the past, and origins on a belief that nature was the same in the past.
The question is who has a science claim? They do. I already know from reading history and the bible what the past was like! They come along and reinvent the wheel, and make oodles of claims about the past, and origins all based on one belief! They need to prove it. They have not begun to do so.
Lift out something in your videos that you think is defensible. Use the link as a reference so people can check if it really says what you quote. I know what their religion is all about, and what they claim.Here is 49 videos explaining some of evolution. My prediction is that you will not even watch one of them]
Wrong. You have a partial fossil record, from which you try to construct a ladder of life! That is foolishness.
If bacteria, fungi, and all sorts of little creatures either died out or adapted to the new nature, then they would not now be doing what they used to do, even if some were alive!
No. Science only knows how fossilization COULD occur in this present nature! Even if it was largely the same way in the former different nature, no remains could be left if there was a rapid decomposition of most animals! It would not matter if the pile of dust got wet, or landed in sand, etc, we still would get no fossil!!
cladking
Well-Known Member
When virtually every scientist is wrong about something it doesn't matter what real science is. All that matters is what they believe.
For instance every single surgeon in the 1860's believed washing their hands before an operation was a waste of time. What actually matters is almost all their patients died of infection.
Of course you know everyone can't be wrong today no matter how silly their pronouncements. If cosmologists say there are an infinite number of pyramids built with an infinite number of ramps then you can take it to the bank. If they say we must kill billions to save a few old sick people then that's that. If they say we must eliminate billions to save the planet then just line up for the disintegration chambers.
It's no longer necessary to think at all since we have expert opinion to say what's what. This is exactly as it should be since the schools failed and stopped teaching critical thinking generations ago anyway. It's all good.
Yep, they “believe” whatever science ‘suggests’ and treat it like it was gospel truth. No proof required......just their interpretation of the evidence, accepted as if it can’t be questioned. If that doesn’t make science a ‘religion’, I don’t know what does.
An inconvenient truth....being fed incorrect assumptions can lead an entire body of proud, trained professionals to put lives at risk......today, whatever science proffers, has its devotees accepting without question, despite the fact that they can’t actually provide anything but suggestions as to how it all “must have” happened. Their precious theory cannot be tested in any real way, meaning that they must accept it all on faith. That is the definition of indoctrination....the pot calls the kettle, black.
It is especially puzzling to me how “Christians” can jump on this atheist bandwagon.
Having a foot in both camps appears to be some kind of each way bet.....is it an insurance policy of sorts? I guess we will see who gets the pay out. You only have to see how successful one little virus has been to understand that biological weapons are much more effective than anything in the military’s hardware. Looking at the empty streets and businesses of once bustling cities demonstrates how quickly things can change globally.....no one thought that this was even possible. But the warnings have been there for many years....those darn conspiracy theories.
Yep, the school systems are designed to flush out the geniuses so that they can be groomed for future use, educated in universities to carry on the agenda. All indoctrinated with godless evolution so that there is no one to answer to when they are designing their next biological weapon or their next technological masterpiece. Our brains are being turned to mush but no one seems to notice, or to ask why? The general public do not really know why 5G is being pushed so hard. They will find out, if they have any grey cells left....no one can stop what is coming, those who trust in God will not need to try. He has it all under control....everything is happening just as he said it would.
Bring it on....I look forward to what comes after it’s all over.
cladking
Well-Known Member
You only have to see how successful one little virus has been to understand that biological weapons are much more effective than anything in the military’s hardware. Looking at the empty streets and businesses of once bustling cities demonstrates how quickly things can change globally.....no one thought that this was even possible. But the warnings have been there for many years....those darn conspiracy theories.
It looks like a neutron bomb hit but we dropped it on ourselves.
cladking
Well-Known Member
I think the real problem is that everyone with two brain cells to rub together is trained in a specialty after indoctrination. Specialists tend to be remarkably poor at seeing the big picture especially if they are never trained in critical thinking or metaphysics. Even janitors now days become specialists.
Science backed by experiment means something. Science backed by consensus is meaningless claptrap and is killing us all.
It is especially puzzling to me how “Christians” can jump on this atheist bandwagon.
Nobody ever needs to give up faith to study or practice science. It's possible someday that science can prove a Deity doesn't exist but, frankly, it seems highly improbable that this could ever happen using the reductionistic metaphysics that is modern science. Besides, there just could be a Creator and this would make it impossible for any kind of science to gainsay It.
Many individuals do far better with faith than without and it's quite apparent some of our problems result from the crusade against religion. Most of our problems are a failed educational system and a science that thinks it's so clever it doesn't even need experiment. It's specialization and the lack of any responsibility for consequences for our leaders. No matter how badly they damage institutions, economies, lives. and the commonweal they get a pass providing they are PC.
Nimos
Well-Known Member
We can use ice cores for that, which tells us how the atmosphere of the planet were in the past.
Scientists announced today (2017) that a core drilled in Antarctica has yielded 2.7-million-year-old ice, an astonishing find 1.7 million years older than the previous record-holder. Bubbles in the ice contain greenhouse gases from Earth’s atmosphere at a time when the planet’s cycles of glacial advance and retreat were just beginning, potentially offering clues to what triggered the ice ages. That information alone makes the value of the sample “incredible,” says David Shuster, a geochemist at the University of California, Berkeley, who is unaffiliated with the research. “This is the only sample of ancient Earth’s atmosphere that we have access to.”
Now, the Princeton team wants to go back to the blue ice and drill some more, Brook says—not only to fill in the climate cycles of the last 2.7 million years with a multitude of snapshots, but also to go even deeper in time, before the ice ages, when CO2 levels were higher. There’s evidence that Antarctica has hosted at least some ice for 30 million years. It’s plausible, Brook says, that the next attempt could come back with ice 5 million years old—a time when temperatures are thought to resemble what Earth is heading toward with human-driven warming.
Record-shattering 2.7-million-year-old ice core reveals start of the ice ages | Science | AAAS
If nature were completely different, then it apparently weren't for the last 2.7 million years. This is just from those that study these ice cores. You can probably find people (geologist) that know about how sediment layers forms, continental drifts etc.
So what according to you makes you think that nature were completely different back then? Besides religious scriptures, which first of all say nothing about this topic and secondly is not a scientific document. Why should someone believe that nature were different, what can you throw at the scientific community that they can look at?
That is part of the evolutionary explanation.
If God created us with the purpose of inhabiting the Earth, why not make us so we could live in all environments, meaning all having the same skin color, shape of nose etc. It makes no sense why God would require evolution at all, when he could make it whatever way he wanted.
But this is simply not true, looking at the fossil record we can see how they become more and more simple the further back in time you go. Don't get me wrong, you are asking the right questions, but when you are presented with an answer by Mr modern scientist you don't accept it.
The reason we know that feathers didn't came first is because they evolved from scales, which have been demonstrated, so there are very good evidence for it.
By expressing these genes in embryo alligator skin, the researchers caused the reptiles' scales to change in a way that may be similar to how the earliest feathers evolved.
The reason the gene doesn't cause the development of a fully feathered alligator is that unlike birds, alligators don't have the underlying genetic architecture evolved to support these central feather-making genes, or hold the structures in place on the skin.
But the team's research does provide evidence for how early dinosaurs initiated the development of feathers.
In recent years, palaeontologists have found evidence of "proto feathers" in a huge range of different dinosaur species.
"Feathered dinosaurs have unusual so called proto-feathers… it looks like they have feathers but the feathers are not identical to today's (bird) feathers."
Some of these were very simple structures, without the branching complexity seen in birds today. We now know that many dinosaurs were warm blooded like birds and mammals, this meant that they could save energy by holding onto heat produced in their bodies. Scales are not good at this, and so there was a selective pressure to develop something like fur.
How scales turned into feathers
Seriously, if you watch just one of videos by Aron Ra and look at all the terms and classifications that is used to identify each type of animal and group of plants. Why do you think they seperate each of them into so many different ones? If it were all completely wrong, don't you think someone would react and say "What the hell is going on here, why all this non sense, just make four kinds for god sake, hairy kind, scally kind, feather kind and fishy kind... .end of story, Im going to blow the lid of this whole evolution scam!!"
Do you think that these people studying these things just guesses left right an center and no one react to it?
But it makes no sense, because how did the kangaroo get to Australia then? The continental drift simply doesn't support that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5q8hzF9VVE
Well you personally don't have to care about it. But those that are interested in knowing where we came from might be. Those making vaccines against whatever nasty thing is out there, so they can save the rest of us, probably think its pretty damn important to know how these things evolve.
I have now linked several articles with explanations, including 49/50 videos explaining evolution and continental drift and you have nothing to show, to why you ought to be correct here? Simply that they are wrong, 99% of all people working in this field is wrong. That is one bold claim I have to say.
I have added several things already, that would get you started looking at the evidence and you can probably find a whole lot more if you start to look more serious into this.
Furthermore, none of them as far as I know, have even suggested that their is another nature to speak of. Again even the bible doesn't suggest that it is different. It might have gotten the current one wrong, that is to be expected, but there is no suggestion in it, that we are talking about something completely different. Except that predators eat grass or whatever, despite their teeth not supporting that either. But that aside, even the bible doesn't talk about what you say.
Out of curiosity, where in the bible do you read this that makes you draw these conclusions, because when I read it, it didn't even cross my mind, what you are talking about here, so would be very interested to see where it comes from?
Their religion? Do you think that it is only atheists that believe in evolution?
There are lots and lots of fossils, if you cared to examine the material and how they identify and classify them etc. Some of these fossils are million of years old, how many do you expect there to be?
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dad
Undefeated
The issue is how far in the past? If ice after the flood year and in the different former nature of the past formed layers very very quickly, then we could not use today's cycles as any indication of time. (in the far past)
Wrong. The layers that you wrongly attribute 2.7 million years to form do not represent that time at all.
Same thing, the rates at which plates now move have no relation to the actual past. It is likely there was a rapid plate movement in the past and today's rates are mere residual effects.
What is important is not what makes anyone think of feel or believe anything. I do not care what science thinks or believes or feels was likely based on a same state past belief.
Once we realize science cannot be a player in the discussion, all that is left is admitting you do not know...believe whatever you like.
We are not robots that all eat the same foods, get the same amount of sunshine, have the same weather, etc. He knew that man would encounter many environments. Animals also. It makes sense to have the ability to adapt.
All that means is that most animals at that time were not dying yet and leaving remains! Remember that man lived about 1000 years. So animals likely lived a long time also. The geologic layers were also short. By the time Adam dies, the Cambrian and Precambrian were long gone for example.
Yes I do if there is evidence. I accept airplanes. I know they usually work. I do not accept far past models based only on a belief.
From your link we see this
"By expressing these genes in embryo alligator skin, the researchers caused the reptiles' scales to change in a way that may be similar to how the earliest feathers evolved."
In other words in the modern times, they caused scales to change somewhat. They then claim this 'may' be similar to how earliest feathers evolved. Some dinos may have adapted back into being birds or similar! Some birds may have adapted into being dinos. In either case, they would have something similar to feathers. That does NOT mean that the original kind birds did not have feathers before any of this adapting happened (if it did). Also, tinkering with genes in the present nature may not represent what would have went on in the former nature. It is foolish to tinker with genes to try to get something sort of like a feather, and try to tack this on to TOE!
Short sighted straw grasping attempts to classify everything based on belief and a misread fossil record. Aaron could not defend his beliefs here.
They classify as thy do to fit all things into a tree they cooked up. They want it all to fit modern DNA and the fossil record and etc in a way that conforms to their religion.
Easy. Right after the tower of Babel (my guess as to the timing of the nature change) the continents started to rapidly move apart. On these continents were people, and animals. Probably in the area that became Australia there were adapted animals that were marsupials. They had over a century to adapt and evolve since the original kinds left the ark by this time! So they got a ride on the moving continent.
Simple.
No vaccine has anything whatsoever to do with evolution in the former world. They have to do with things evolving right now.
Name anything in any video that disputes anything I have said? There was drift and evolution! Nothing like the fable of TOE teaches though.[/URL][URL='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5q8hzF9VVE']
I have now linked several articles with explanations, including 49/50 videos explaining evolution and continental drift and you have nothing to show, to why you ought to be correct here? Simply that they are wrong, 99% of all people working in this field is wrong. That is one bold claim I have to say.
How would we live 1000 years in this nature and have trees grow in weeks and have spirits marry women and live on earth?
No problem at all. Death started and right away some creatures adapted the right teeth!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5q8hzF9VVE
Genesis really makes no sense in this nature. Nor does the future prophesied in the bible, that is very very similar!!! Science has said that the present is the key to the past. In reality the future is more a key to the past!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5q8hzF9VVE
Whoever embraces the belief set of so called science is accepting the religion. Nothing new here. People have always vacillated over what gods they want to worship. Some folks had the bright idea they would worship false gods and also worship the actual God! That did not make the false gods true.
Prove their was radioactive decay in the former nature at all? You do realize your millions of years baloney is based on believing that?
Nimos
Well-Known Member
Ok sounds fair enough, guess I can play that game as well.
Agree, when the aliens from Ulramoks decided to rapidly freeze the water into what we see today, obviously they were trying to pull a prank on the scientists... as they knew they would eventually start to dig holes. Can only imagine how much they must be laughing now, while they dig their holes.... such fools.
From what I have heard, the Ulramoks did it in less than a week using a massive freezer that they connected to the sun for energy.
Im sorry but this is a ridiculous way of discussing, clearly you have no confident in anything besides your scriptures, which is fine, if you believe that, but present something to convince me? You couldn't even point to the bible were you drew these non sense conclusions.
Birds are Dinosaurs!!.... They evolved from theropods....whatever...guess that in the alternative nature they didn't right? which you have lots of evidence for.... no?
Well maybe the bible writers got it wrong, is that a possibility?
It does, if one can accept that the writers weren't sure how it actually happened, but honestly their guess is not that bad, just not correct.
Im sorry, but I won't waste anymore time on this, this is not even at a point where we are simply disagreeing, its at the point where you are just throwing whatever you like to be true forward without anything to back it up.
LOL....nowhere is this more apparent than when you mention abiogenesis to an evolutionist.....they run away and protest that it’s not their field....like it is somehow disconnected to the subject matter. No point in arguing against a Creator if you have no real idea about how “life” originated. They know by experience that in all instances “life comes from pre-existing life”....except when it comes to the very first form of it. Did it magically pop into existence one day for no apparent reason?
Any wonder they run away.....”no answer came the loud reply”.
And the sheeples just go along, trusting in every word...they have been conned into trusting the most untrustworthy of people on earth. Perception management at its finest.
The governance of nations on this planet has been one dismal failure after another. Science is used by unscrupulous governments to make all of us dependent on the system to supply our every need....there is nothing on this earth (food, water air.....even human bodies) that is not contaminated by artificial chemicals, produced by scientists for financial gain at the expense of public health. Sadly, most of us have lost the ability to sustain our own lives without them. And the introduction of fast food has led nations into a planned form of ill health that feeds the drug companies with customers for life. People are literally digging a grave with their teeth. How did this happen? They played on our laziness, our trust (albeit somewhat eroded) and our gullibility. Who really believes that doctors want to cure diseases when their livelihoods depend on us being sick?
Nuclear and biological weapons could not exist without science. Chemical pesticides and herbicides could not exist without science. GMO's could not exist without science. There are many skeletons in its closet....but it only brings out its best.
Indeed. Real science and the Bible do not disagree, though many assume that they do. A proper reading of Genesis reveals that the 7 "days" of creation were not literal days but eons of undisclosed time. That allows for all that science knows about the age of the earth and its many creatures which pre-date man. The Bible says that life began in the water....so does science....but with a different interpretation.
Actually the Bible indicates that there will be an accounting when Jesus returns to fix up what the devil and his cronies have done down here.....those who have been persuaded to dump God in favor of many 'fortunate flukes' will know for sure that there is a purposeful Creator whom they have maligned and disrespected.
Where does this arrogance come from? You'd think that they knew everything about everything to become this cocky. Its not like they have an unblemished track record in being great custodians of this planet. So clever are they that now they possess the means to wipe out every living thing in existence and cook the planet in the process. All hail science....
Well, some of them don't know the meaning of the term.....PC is just words. They bluster forth every time they open their mouths, and promptly stick their foot in it.
So....Axe, Behe, Meyer, Minnich, Wells, etc.....they don’t “understand science”?
Maybe they’re just not hampered by a system that automatically excludes an Intelligent Being, ie., God.
I know, by your religious view (Methodist), that you don’t completely...but you are basically supporting a system that can’t even allow for Something that can’t be falsified.
Researchers in other fields of science, including archeology & anthropology, recognize intelligence sources behind integrated parts; even though the builder may be unknown, they still recognize design as having an intelligent cause.... it’s empiricism.
It’s all around you. From the design observed in the finely-tuned 4 fundamental forces, to the Earth’s nitrogen, water & oxygen / carbon cycles, to the design of the disparate living cells — all harmoniously working together....
The big picture tells it. Newton saw it...so did Boyle...so did Einstein. Etc.
But most today, don’t. You don’t. Why? Because of Evolution. As Huxley stated, there was another explanation.
And you just helped to prove my point.
gnostic
The Lost One
It really depends on which source you are relying on.
According to any translation of the Masoretic Text, 1656 years between Adam’s creation to time Noah boarded the Ark. but in the Greek Septuagint, it is based on which Codex you are reading:
- 2242 years, according to Vaticanus Codex
- 2262 years, according to the Alexandrinus Codex
The Dead Sea Scrolls (DSS) only contained the passage on Kenan, hence Genesis 5:13-14; the rest of Genesis 5 is missing, including verse 12, which “would have” said Kenan was 70 years old when he became father to Mahalalel. Which would mean that at least DSS would agree with Masoretic on Kenan.
gnostic
The Lost One
You wouldn’t know real science if it slapped across the face, Deeje. Like other creationists here, you have the tendencies to ignore evidence whenever it suit you.
Scientific evidence don’t depends on a person’s personal belief or personal preference.
Scientific evidence needs to be beyond anyone’s religion or their preconceptions. Otherwise, accepting only evidence that agreed with your belief, is nothing more than biased preference.
To me, that’s fascinating stuff! Thanks!
Now, what about after the Flood? What’s the Septuagint say?
dad
Undefeated
The concept that the past may not have been the same nature as today is so foreign to you, that you launch into fantasy land thinking about it.
Too bad you can't prove the nature was as you claim. Baseless personal incredulity is of no worth.
No need for you to accept the bible if you prefer to reject it. That still leaves you with having to admit you do not know what nature existed in the past. Unless you can solidly demonstrate right now that nature was the same?
Ha. Didn't think so.
Birds were created a few days before man. The reasons science claims they evolved from dinos are all based on that one belief in a same state past. The claims are no better than that one belief. Worthless in other words.
God is the Author of Scripture. He created it all so He sure did not get it wrong. You did.
What cannot be backed up is the nature science claims existed in the past and which it bases all origins claims on, including TOE.
Science needs to be backed up. You have failed to defend that belief.
Happy fantasies.
Pointing out your regular and willful error of conflating evolution and the origin of life is not running away. I have never seen anyone run from anything you have posted. In fact, I find it very amusing for you to make a comment like that when you do run from other posters. You have me on ignore, because you do not seem to have the courage to address my posts. In the one instance here when you did address them as a personal attack, you had neither the courage not courtesy to attribute the quotes to me. I love the irony and recognize the hypocrisy of you mocking others for things they have not done, while you actually have literally run from other posters.LOL....nowhere is this more apparent than when you mention abiogenesis to an evolutionist.....they run away and protest that it’s not their field....like it is somehow disconnected to the subject matter. No point in arguing against a Creator if you have no real idea about how “life” originated. They know by experience that in all instances “life comes from pre-existing life”....except when it comes to the very first form of it. Did it magically pop into existence one day for no apparent reason?
Any wonder they run away.....”no answer came the loud reply”.
And the sheeples just go along, trusting in every word...they have been conned into trusting the most untrustworthy of people on earth. Perception management at its finest.
The governance of nations on this planet has been one dismal failure after another. Science is used by unscrupulous governments to make all of us dependent on the system to supply our every need....there is nothing on this earth (food, water air.....even human bodies) that is not contaminated by artificial chemicals, produced by scientists for financial gain at the expense of public health. Sadly, most of us have lost the ability to sustain our own lives without them. And the introduction of fast food has led nations into a planned form of ill health that feeds the drug companies with customers for life. People are literally digging a grave with their teeth. How did this happen? They played on our laziness, our trust (albeit somewhat eroded) and our gullibility. Who really believes that doctors want to cure diseases when their livelihoods depend on us being sick?
Nuclear and biological weapons could not exist without science. Chemical pesticides and herbicides could not exist without science. GMO's could not exist without science. There are many skeletons in its closet....but it only brings out its best.
Indeed. Real science and the Bible do not disagree, though many assume that they do. A proper reading of Genesis reveals that the 7 "days" of creation were not literal days but eons of undisclosed time. That allows for all that science knows about the age of the earth and its many creatures which pre-date man. The Bible says that life began in the water....so does science....but with a different interpretation.
Actually the Bible indicates that there will be an accounting when Jesus returns to fix up what the devil and his cronies have done down here.....those who have been persuaded to dump God in favor of many 'fortunate flukes' will know for sure that there is a purposeful Creator whom they have maligned and disrespected.
Where does this arrogance come from? You'd think that they knew everything about everything to become this cocky. Its not like they have an unblemished track record in being great custodians of this planet. So clever are they that now they possess the means to wipe out every living thing in existence and cook the planet in the process. All hail science....
Well, some of them don't know the meaning of the term.....PC is just words. They bluster forth every time they open their mouths, and promptly stick their foot in it.
dad
Undefeated
"But we cannot be dogmatic about the precise date of Adam’s creation. Johnson helpfully suggests that it is highly unlikely that each son was born on the birthday of his father. This requires a “fudge factor” of a partial year for the time between the father’s birthday and the son’s birth.82 Nevertheless, given the ages in Genesis 5 and 11 in the Masoretic Hebrew Bible (and reflected in our modern translations), Adam (along with the rest of the universe) was created a little before 4000 b.c., and Noah’s Flood was a little before 2400 b.c.83 Even if the Septuagint were shown to be more correct on all the begetting ages of the patriarchs,84 that would push the date of the Flood back only 750 years and the date of Adam’s creation back another 586, making the age of the creation only around 7,350 years ago."
When Was Adam Created?
We also have Jewish tradition about when Abraham and Peleg and Noah lived. It was not that long ago, and they were contemporary.
Nimos
Well-Known Member
There is no proof that you would accept, because you have thrown God into it.
Based on the speed of the continental drift they are moving so slow that it have taken million of years for them to move to where they are now based on the data we can see.
But its useless in regards to you, because God could have done it in just one day 5000 years ago and just make it look like it took millions, right?
So what is the point of trying to proof anything to you? that is why you don't allow God in a lab, because he can fiddle with all the data and make anything possible.
That is why I used the example with the aliens, It might be true, you can't proof that it isn't, right? That is equal to the stuff you are writing.
rational experiences
Veteran Member
Evolution.
2 conditions in the state space. Space being empty and then space owning some form of mass in a variation of bodies.
You can have hot gases that due to spatial conditions, emptiness and pressure change. As they cool, the space of a gas removing the gas into emptiness stops...so space stops opening. You virtually gain a compaction of gases in the same space of heat, when it cools.
Evolution.
O Earth the same stone body that formed its presence historically in cold empty pressurized out of space.
Volcano released its hot smoking gases, pressurized into what males in science as the inventor of statements said was a mystery and a state Immaculate.
Did a status comparing information. O stone is male and God he said.....reason for change I will give a female reference, by his choice.
Now does that history rationally own any male or female quotes, in states science or even MATH?
The answer is no, it does not, rationally.
Yet in ancient times males, who invented the term for MATH gave it a female reference, which would make you query some very strange notions of male human thinking today about laws.
Especially when natural law, our planet and our heavens exists...naturally, with his owned consciousness being irrational. Claiming laws in the cosmos...when is life, his life continuance and his thinking ability is owned inside of Earth natural laws....only.
For the theme...space emptiness...filled in by gases owns the whole and total history space. Our gases are the spatial answer factually. What science ignores today. Our space is gas space.....and not a solid/mass or else we would not be enabled to move.
Hence so many of theories are false thoughts.
Therefore if evolution of gases is owned by the stone and also natural cold out of space history, then if change to Nature on Earth occurs it can only occur due to unnatural change to the heavenly body.
Science is historically the answer as to why mutation of life on Earth and change to life of Earth was caused, as historically, before any Nature existed, cold gases supported the Nature Garden first.
Therefore evolution is proven to own de evolution due to science cause.
2 conditions in the state space. Space being empty and then space owning some form of mass in a variation of bodies.
You can have hot gases that due to spatial conditions, emptiness and pressure change. As they cool, the space of a gas removing the gas into emptiness stops...so space stops opening. You virtually gain a compaction of gases in the same space of heat, when it cools.
Evolution.
O Earth the same stone body that formed its presence historically in cold empty pressurized out of space.
Volcano released its hot smoking gases, pressurized into what males in science as the inventor of statements said was a mystery and a state Immaculate.
Did a status comparing information. O stone is male and God he said.....reason for change I will give a female reference, by his choice.
Now does that history rationally own any male or female quotes, in states science or even MATH?
The answer is no, it does not, rationally.
Yet in ancient times males, who invented the term for MATH gave it a female reference, which would make you query some very strange notions of male human thinking today about laws.
Especially when natural law, our planet and our heavens exists...naturally, with his owned consciousness being irrational. Claiming laws in the cosmos...when is life, his life continuance and his thinking ability is owned inside of Earth natural laws....only.
For the theme...space emptiness...filled in by gases owns the whole and total history space. Our gases are the spatial answer factually. What science ignores today. Our space is gas space.....and not a solid/mass or else we would not be enabled to move.
Hence so many of theories are false thoughts.
Therefore if evolution of gases is owned by the stone and also natural cold out of space history, then if change to Nature on Earth occurs it can only occur due to unnatural change to the heavenly body.
Science is historically the answer as to why mutation of life on Earth and change to life of Earth was caused, as historically, before any Nature existed, cold gases supported the Nature Garden first.
Therefore evolution is proven to own de evolution due to science cause.