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Discrimination in the Catholic Church
- Thread starter E. Nato Difficile
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sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
True dat, except that the priesthood was not always celibate, Purgatory didn't come about until 1700 years after Jesus died, and the Immaculate Conception wasn't thought of until the 19th century...
Them's fightin' words. You're speaking directly to the Catholic Church's claims of divine authority.
Me Myself
Back to my username
Just people who had other jobs aside from being a priest can be priests.
Jesus was a carpenter and Pedro a fisherman.
Only poor people can be priests. Forget living in a palace and having gold toilets
Only people who were born near Nazareth can be priests.
Only bearded people can be priests.
BTW: You were not really a priest unless you were crucified at the end of your life.
Jesus was a carpenter and Pedro a fisherman.
Only poor people can be priests. Forget living in a palace and having gold toilets
Only people who were born near Nazareth can be priests.
Only bearded people can be priests.
BTW: You were not really a priest unless you were crucified at the end of your life.
McBell
Unbound
Exactly the problem.
They ought to try basing the Church off the Scriptures the Bible is loosely based on.
Oh wait, with all the time and effort they spent picking and choosing which scriptures were to be in the Bible.....
:biglaugh:
You should take your act on the road.
JacobEzra.
Dr. Greenthumb
The priesthood has never been for women. The Apostles were all men, as well as thous the Apostles ordained. And the Priesthood is a carry on from the Old covenant.
And Jesus was not a women.
JacobEzra.
Dr. Greenthumb
You do not like the Church because its based off the bible.
Why the **** are you posting again? Just to talk ****?
JacobEzra.
Dr. Greenthumb
These were beliefs that were believed yet not declared article of faith.
Like the assumption. That was not declared an article of faith until..I believe the 50s? I am not sure, but I know its an ancient belief. In fact even the EO believes in the assumption (the Dormition of the Theotokos) but have not declared it dogma.
On the celibacy part, you are right. And this could be changed.
JacobEzra.
Dr. Greenthumb
What about the Apostles?
Me Myself
Back to my username
They were all poor though, and that is clearly not a requirement.
To be fair, there is a high amount of discrimination ini the bible, so to say that a church based in the bible is prone to discrimination is hardly an unbeleivable argument.
We are talking beleives here, no need to get personal.
Chill dude, and blessings
JacobEzra.
Dr. Greenthumb
No that is not true. Diocesan priest do not usually take vows of poverty but promises to stay away from materialism, to live simple. But Priest who are members of orders, like Franciscans, take vows of poverty and are not allowed to really own anything.
JacobEzra.
Dr. Greenthumb
To be fair, there is a high amount of discrimination ini the bible, so to say that a church based in the bible is prone to discrimination is hardly an unbeleivable argument.
We are talking beleives here, no need to get personal.
Chill dude, and blessings
Women are valued and regarded with dignity in the Church. Outsiders say they are discriminated against, yet this is not true for the many religious women. They take on very important roles, yet are somehow discriminated.
And its non-sense that an atheist like him would come into this thread just to troll.
Me Myself
Back to my username
But they are not mandated to be poor (edit: the totallity of the priesthood, I mean). All of Jesus apostles were born poor and stayed poor. By the reasoning used to make them all men, they should all have been born poor too, and stay that way.
The point still stands. The bible itself does discriminate women a lot, also promotes genocide, and slavery when taken literally (Old Testament).
This is not a DIR, everyone has the right to put opinions here, even if they are against the catholic church. If you feel he is trolling you have the right to talk to an admin, if s/he does not see it as trolling, then he is in his right to keep making his opinion heard.
Pegg
Jehovah our God is One
its not discrimination.
Anyway, the catholic church did not make up the rule...God did. Basic reason is because he gave men the responsibility to take the lead. The men were to be the ministers...not the women
and the fact is, women have enough responsibility to take care of without the added role of leading a congregation. Amen to that!
E. Nato Difficile
Active Member
How nice of the Almighty to excuse women from positions of authority in the Church hierarchy so they could finish their housework.
-Nato
Gjallarhorn
N'yog-Sothep
Based off? Didn't they choose what was included in the Bible? Are you sure it's not the other way around?
Pegg
Jehovah our God is One
JacobEzra.
Dr. Greenthumb
The church set the bible yeah. What, you thought it fell from the sky?:sarcastic
GabrielWithoutWings
Well-Known Member
Not to mention the fact that in persona Christi wasn't cemented either. If I remember correctly, certain teachers with Gnostic slants would draw lots to see who would administer the Sacrament, including women and pagans.