Do any non-theists think being Gay is wrong?

[MSizer]

For what it's worth, I'm an atheist (was raised in a catholic home though) and have lived with a gay roommate (but I am straight). I have no objection at all toward homosexuality. I must admit though, I did find it a lot more icky prior to living with a gay guy than I have since. I still have no desire at all to participate in any gay activities at all, but I can't see how anyone can justify criticizing someone else for it.

 

[Runewolf1973]

For what it's worth, I'm an atheist (was raised in a catholic home though) and have lived with a gay roommate (but I am straight). I have no objection at all toward homosexuality. I must admit though, I did find it a lot more icky prior to living with a gay guy than I have since. I still have no desire at all to participate in any gay activities at all, but I can't see how anyone can justify criticizing someone else for it.

I totally agree.

 

[Nepenthe]

That's the question. I wonder if faith is directly responsible for disliking homosexual activity in general. If you are a non-theist, do you see anything wrong with homosexuality? If you are a theist and want to participate: if you were a non-theist would you have a problem with homosexuality?

Be honest.

Nothing wrong whatsoever and a perfectly normal expression of sexuality amongst a substantial minority of human and non-human animals.

 

[Phasmid]

Nope. I don't care what people do as long as no one gets hurt... unless they like that kind of thing...

 

[Vile Atheist]

Not a problem. I wouldn't do it, personally.

 

[monta]

Being gay is no more wrong than being brown haired, how can you make a moral judgement on something that isn't a choice?

I can't understand why people waste their time worrying about what other people are doing or not doing, some kind of weird visceral panic seems to grip some people regarding homosexuality, I always wonder if the real motivation for this anxiety is an attempt to suppress their own sexuality or the sexuality of someone else close to them that they instinctively know is gay, why else are they so bothered about this one alleged breach of morality, while ignoring or even engaging in others?

 

[Tiapan]

I don't think its wrong I just think its odd, each to his consenting own. Its not for me.

Why odd? Simply it contradicts my idea, that the purpose to life is to breed and adapt as a species, and this concept of same sex sex defeats that purpose. I also believe my equivalent of eternal life is through my children via DNA. So again Gay appears a dead end. Still love is another thing, the hormones kick in and all the facts go out the window.

Cheers

 

[Vile Atheist]

I don't think its wrong I just think its odd, each to his consenting own. Its not for me.

Why odd? Simply it contradicts my idea, that the purpose to life is to breed and adapt as a species, and this concept of same sex sex defeats that purpose. I also believe my equivalent of eternal life is through my children via DNA. So again Gay appears a dead end. Still love is another thing, all facts go out the window.

Cheers

What if an adaptation to overpopulation is indeed homosexuality? I wonder if any research has been done on that.

 

[BucephalusBB]

I cannot see anything wrong with 2 girls on a bed with some pillows having a fun night out..
Gaygirls are awesome!

O wait,..
Ehr, gaymen don't steal women from heteroguys? Yeah, that's what I meant!


I don't know, I cannot stand the "look at me dancing in my pink underwear feeling superdepuperly proud" kind of gay. But that has nothing to do with him being gay really, but just that he is an annoying person. My guess would be that I know more heterosexual guys who are irritating in the same way.

 

[Aquitaine]

Although I'm straight, I know of a fair number of Gay friends (but most of them are just Bi-Sexual), and honestly I don't see a problem with 'em.

I'd much rather hang with a decent, intelligent and kind Gay person, rather than an obnoxious prick Hetero, for example.
Just as I'd much rather hang out with a decent, intelligent and kind Hetero, rather than an obnoxius Gay prick. ^_^

But with regards to their "place" in Society, I think that Gays should be allowed to get married and have kids (obviously via adoption etc). The way I see it is that a Marriage should be a "contract" between individual A, and individual B, regardless of gender etc.

Just as a side-note, I think it's funny how so many Theists bash Homosexuality, yet they (the Males atleast) constantly go on about how the love Jesus/Mohammad etc!

xD

 

[BucephalusBB]

(but most of them are just Bi-Sexual)

Funny you say that.. I have a few gayfriends as well and they are far from Bi-sexual.
They are as atracted to the other sexe as I am to the same sexe.


Sidenote, nothing is more awesome than looking at girls with girls..:drool:

 

[Nepenthe]

Why odd? Simply it contradicts my idea, that the purpose to life is to breed and adapt as a species, and this concept of same sex sex defeats that purpose. I also believe my equivalent of eternal life is through my children via DNA.

But the same argument would apply to heterosexual sex that doesn't lead to reproduction- you know, the good kind of sex. Well, that as well as masturbation would defeat that purpose.

The point is to spread one's genes through reproduction, but the sex drive is so prominent non-reproductive acts like masturbation are universal in mammals and some non-mammals. Yet natural selection has made the non-reproductive act commonplace.

Homosexuals do have children; many have their own kids before coming out, or decide to have a donor aid in having children. Gays and lesbians do spread their genes; they do reproduce so if there is a genetic component, the trait would be inherited like any other.

One study suggests homosexuals benefit their relatives in that gay men devote far more time to their nieces and nephews than the parents actually did and kin selection would "select" the gay gene to foster social cohesion. Another study suggests that the female relatives of gay men produce children at a higher rate than other women. These studies, and others, are still in their beginning stages so it's unclear what's going on. But the evidence does suggest gays and lesbians do reproduce, and biology and natural selection are very much factors here.

Still love is another thing, the hormones kick in and all the facts go out the window.

:yes:

 

[Panda]

Funny you say that.. I have a few gayfriends as well and they are far from Bi-sexual.
They are as atracted to the other sexe as I am to the same sexe.


Sidenote, nothing is more awesome than looking at girls with girls..:drool:

Was on my closest friends is a lesbian. There is something quite fun about sitting in a cafe or something and checking out girls with her. Probably because it is a bit of a novelty.

 

[Apex]

That's the question. I wonder if faith is directly responsible for disliking homosexual activity in general. If you are a non-theist, do you see anything wrong with homosexuality? If you are a theist and want to participate: if you were a non-theist would you have a problem with homosexuality?

Be honest.

There was one atheist here about a month ago who said he thought homosexuality to be wrong.

 

[Smoke]

Just as a side-note, I think it's funny how so many Theists bash Homosexuality, yet they (the Males atleast) constantly go on about how the love Jesus/Mohammad etc!

Different kind of love, but they're still not fooling anybody.

If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?​

 

[Father Heathen]

Yeah, it sad how some people confuse their taste and their morality. For example you can think sour kraut is disgusting without picketing the funeral of someone who enjoyed it.

 

[Rayne]

During the time I was an Atheist, I had no problems with homosexuals, and don't see how anyone could. Now that I'm not an Atheist, I still have no problem with homosexuals, and don't see how anyone could.

 

[GiantHouseKey]

Greetings

Whilst I am heterosexual, I don't find anything wrong with being gay. It's not like it's their choice (USUALLY).

As a friend of mine often says: 'If God didn't want me to be gay, why did he make me gay?'

GhK.

 

[Stellify]

In past cultures, *thinking Greek* it was ok, and even a statesman's (citizen's) right, duty, and honor to have a boy student under them, who he would occasionally screw to help him in his teachings. I don't really get that practice, and I'm not sure that it's a good thing either... but still it's odd isn't it? Greeks were also heavily religious. So I don't think homophobia existed there.

I think that those practices were a bit more complicated, though...like the boy wasn't supposed to actually be attracted back...and if someone was on the receiving end of things, it could be considered shameful under some circumstances, I believe. There was a lot of social stigma associated with two men of equal social standing being together sexually, as well.
I think it was the same in ancient Rome.
Here's the wiki for it, if you care to give it a look:
Homosexuality in ancient Greece - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That being said, though, I've never had a problem with homosexuality. Nor do I think I would if I were atheist.

I don't know of any atheists who are against it...but I know someone who might be considered a "misotheist" (if that's the right word? Kinda guessing here..)...who thinks homosexuality is wrong. But I think his views are largely due to his Christian upbringing.

 

[Vile Atheist]

I think that those practices were a bit more complicated, though...like the boy wasn't supposed to actually be attracted back...and if someone was on the receiving end of things, it could be considered shameful under some circumstances, I believe. There was a lot of social stigma associated with two men of equal social standing being together sexually, as well.
I think it was the same in ancient Rome.
Here's the wiki for it, if you care to give it a look:
Homosexuality in ancient Greece - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That being said, though, I've never had a problem with homosexuality. Nor do I think I would if I were atheist.

I don't know of any atheists who are against it...but I know someone who might be considered a "misotheist" (if that's the right word? Kinda guessing here..)...who thinks homosexuality is wrong. But I think his views are largely due to his Christian upbringing.

The Spartans - and I think Thebans - did it. They took a young male lover and the bond created would somehow help them fight more valiantly on the battlefield.

Hey, it worked didn't it? Spartans hauled a**