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Do Atheists/Agnostics/Skeptics have a scripture?!

Skwim

Veteran Member
At any rate, with respect to the question of the OP, I'd tend to interpret it as "do non-theists have a text that they regard as a primary or important authority for guiding and governing their lives?" based on what "scripture" really implies within Christian traditions. The OP would have to clarify what they really meant, though. I'm honestly kind of perplexed by the lumping together of atheists, agnostics, and skeptics as if they are the same category of people.
Well, if that category is Those who don't believe in any religion I think they all qualify.


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Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Well, if that category is Those who don't believe in any religion I think they all qualify

I'm not seeing it, considering the existence of non-theistic religions. And skepticism can be practiced by anyone too. :shrug:
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Eight Condiments of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
is a religious book written by Bobby Henderson that embodies the main beliefs of the religion theChurch of the Flying Spaghetti Monster or Pastafarianism.[1][2] The Flying Spaghetti Monster was created by Bobby Henderson in an open letter to the Kansas State Board of Education in which he parodied the concept of intelligent design. After Henderson posted the letter on his website, it became an internet phenomenon and was featured in many large newspapers, which caught the attention of book publishers. Released in March 2006 by Villard Books, The Gospel elaborates on Pastafarian beliefs established in the open letter.

The Gospel includes a creation myth, set of commandments, and guide to evangelizing, and discusses history and lifestyle from a Pastafarian perspective. Henderson uses satire to show flaws with creationism and prove the Flying Spaghetti Monster, lampooning the intelligent design movement in the process. The book, which has sold more than 100,000 copies,[3] was generally well received.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gospel_of_the_Flying_Spaghetti_Monster
So it is Codex of the Atheism/Agnosticism/Skepticism/Humanism people.
Not bad , at least they have it at last.
Regards
 

suncowiam

Well-Known Member
This was one of my first scriptures:

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LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Did Buddha say that he won't have a written scripture and did not like it to written? If yes, please quote from him.
Regards
The very structure of the Tripitaka makes it very clear. Some of the first Buddhists actually rebelled against the idea of a written scripture soon after the death of the Buddha.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
The very structure of the Tripitaka makes it very clear. Some of the first Buddhists actually rebelled against the idea of a written scripture soon after the death of the Buddha.
Then why did the Buddhism people make effort to write a scripture against the wishes of Buddha? Please
Isn't it an aspect of corruption at hands of the Buddhism people? Please
And why do Atheists/Agnostics/Skeptics/Humanists ascribe themselves as Buddhists? Please
Regards
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Then why did the Buddhism people make effort to write a scripture against the wishes of Buddha?
There isn't one sole way of practicing religion. Some people have an use for written teachings (not necessarily "scripture" in the Abrahamic sense of the word).

Please
Isn't it an aspect of corruption at hands of the Buddhism people? Please
You tell me. Who is the best pupil? He who is always emulating his teacher, or he who learns beyond his initial lessons?

And why do Atheists/Agnostics/Skeptics/Humanists ascribe themselves as Buddhists? Please
Regards
We don't always. Most of us stinking kuffars aren't Buddhists, nor are all or even most Buddhists necessarily agnostics, atheists or skeptics.

It just turns out that Taoism, Jainism and Buddhism are wise enough not to expect adherents to be believers in some form of deity.
 

life.period

Member
I don’t think they have any or they need/ed one.
Well sometimes strange things do happen in this world, in case they have.
Please name such scripture and the name of the renowned religion which belongs to them, the sources as to how it got authored, its being secure till our times and its usefulness when it was written/compiled/authored and
suitability in our present age.
Thread open to everybody belonging to religion and no-religion.

Regards

I wondered why atheists have prayer while they don't believe in God. They are contradicting their selves .

"I ask god if there is god ..."

They ask god who they deny him.

Why atheists think that Muslims don't believe in reason and ..

They talk as if it is unknown thing .

I think they want to find an excuse to skip all their duties toward creator.

You won't be able to decisive creator in judgment day. He knows within your heart.

Let be honest to our self .
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
I wondered why atheists have prayer while they don't believe in God.
As an atheist I can utterly assure you that I do not have prayers and actually have an unfavorable view of the act of prayer itself.

They are contradicting their selves.
I rather suspect that the contradiction resides in your own fictional thinking on this issue.

"I ask god if there is god ..."
Oddly enough, it would never occur to me to say such a stupid thing... even on an off day. No wonder you think atheists are stupid, LOL. I would too.

They ask god who they deny him.
That's a bit of a stretch. About the most you will get out of any self-respecting atheist would be something like, "If you are real, God, then show yourself to me. Give me some kind of response so I know you heard me." Normally, the response will be - silence.

Why atheists think that Muslims don't believe in reason and ..
While I have met many unreasonable Muslims and Muslims who have a severe lack of critical thinking skills, I've also met a number of non-Muslims who suffer from the same affliction. Again, I do not think I've heard anyone (of any merit) claim that Muslims don't believe in reason, though the reasoning involved is all too often - circular.

They talk as if it is unknown thing.
Language barriers can render the most intelligent persons thoughts into meaningless gibberish when given in a foreign tongue or run through Google Translate. That said, the rationale and reasoning of Muslims is about as spotty as it is for any other group. Some people are better at expressing themselves than others. Simple as that.

I think they want to find an excuse to skip all their duties toward creator.
Duties? That's taking an idea to a pretty bizarre extreme. If I am not a Muslim, I have no "duties" to your narrow idea of what a god is.

You won't be able to decisive creator in judgment day. He knows within your heart.
Your first sentence is too vague to convey meaning. Could you rephrase it? If you are correct, and that is a very, very big IF, then "He" should understand clearly why I don't believe he exists. If "he" created me, I'd be inclined to ask what exactly he had expected.

Muslims love to trot out the cheery and quite insincere line, "There is no compulsion in religion" and yet, if one listens to your average Muslims it would appear that there is a SIGNIFICANT amount of compulsion involved in meeting Allah on the supposed "Judgment day" Given no one can refuse this "appointment" with Allah, the whole idea of "no compulsion" has a very hollow ring.

Let be honest to our self .
I'm usually told I'm too honest, so you go first. You show me yours and I'll show you mine. :)


If you want the unvarnished truth, if I were to be perfectly honest with you it would likely get me into trouble with the RF Moderators for breaking one or two rules in place on this site.
 
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serp777

Well-Known Member
I don’t think they have any or they need/ed one.
Well sometimes strange things do happen in this world, in case they have.
Please name such scripture and the name of the renowned religion which belongs to them, the sources as to how it got authored, its being secure till our times and its usefulness when it was written/compiled/authored and
suitability in our present age.
Thread open to everybody belonging to religion and no-religion.

Regards

THe holy pastafarian scripture
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
I wondered why atheists have prayer while they don't believe in God. They are contradicting their selves .

"I ask god if there is god ..."

They ask god who they deny him.

Why atheists think that Muslims don't believe in reason and ..

They talk as if it is unknown thing .

I think they want to find an excuse to skip all their duties toward creator.

You won't be able to decisive creator in judgment day. He knows within your heart.

Let be honest to our self .
Never really knew any atheists, did you?

Whatever you are describing does not seem to exist.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
It just turns out that Taoism, Jainism and Buddhism are wise enough not to expect adherents to be believers in some form of deity.
The description of Tao, presented by Lao-tzu, is quite similar to the attributes of God mentioned in the Quran. He writes:

'The great Tao is vast. He is on the left and He is on the right. All creatures depend upon Him, and the care of them tires Him not. He brings creation to completion, without seeking reward. He provides for all His creation, but requires nothing for Himself, so He may be considered small. All creatures turn to Him for their needs, yet He keeps nothing for Himself, thus He may be named 'the Supreme'. He does not consider Himself great and because of this He is truly Great.'

  1. DAN, L (1969) The Works of Lao Tzyy. Truth and Nature. The World Book Company, Ltd. Taipei, Taiwan, China. Ch.34, p.17
Lao-tzu was a believer in Tao.
Regards
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
I'm not sure the Tao is even suitable for belief. Sort of cheapens the concept, IMO.

God may nevertheless resemble one of the Tao, mostly because both are perceived by human beings with existential cravings.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
In all honesty, that is only marginally better.
The believers of the Truthful Revealed Religion get twofold reward for every virtuous deed done by one, one in this world and the other in the Hereafter, while non-believers get one reward only.
So, my choice/option is with the Truthful Revealed Religion, others could happily differ with me.
Regards
 
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