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Do Jews say grace?
- Thread starter Kemosloby
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Is that a scriptural command to say the blessing like that, to use exactly those words?
rosends
Well-Known Member
Can I just jump in to get some info?
In Judaism, there are blessings said before and ones said after. Which are you referring to when you say "grace"? Also, there are varying levels of specificity when it comes to blessings before a certain food and a different range on what is said after various foods.
And finally, Pharisaic Judaism endorsed a system of blessings before and after many different foods. If you are looking for a set of food-blessing rules which are sourced only in the written text, you won't really find much detail.
In Judaism, there are blessings said before and ones said after. Which are you referring to when you say "grace"? Also, there are varying levels of specificity when it comes to blessings before a certain food and a different range on what is said after various foods.
And finally, Pharisaic Judaism endorsed a system of blessings before and after many different foods. If you are looking for a set of food-blessing rules which are sourced only in the written text, you won't really find much detail.
Akivah
Well-Known Member
Trying to equate anything in xianity in regards to their man-god to Judaism is an automatic fail.
Tumah
Veteran Member
Is there a Scriptural command to say anything blessing at all on bread?
Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
In the New testament there is not.
Only the didache gives the words to use during the eucharist. And that does not equate the bread with the body of Christ.
But likening the scattering of grain over the hills to grow and be gathered to gether to make bread.
As people are scattered and will be gathered together in the Kingdom of God.
It was much later that the concept of the body and blood of Jesus was incorporated in the bible.
Tumah
Veteran Member
I don't think you were following the flow of that conversation otherwise you'd realize your response has nothing to do with what I asked.
You say there is a biblical command to say grace whenever there is bread with a meal. But does it tell you what words to use? Would a simple thanks suffice or does it have to be the blessing which you quoted "blessed are those who bring bread from the land".
Why did you change "Blessed are You..." to "Blessed are those..."?
Bad memory. carries about the same meaning though doesnt it?
rosends
Well-Known Member
Not really. If we say that God is one, and is the one who brings about bread then that is "are you" since we address God in prayer. Saying that we bless other people not only takes the power away from God but it changes the entire nature of the prayer.
I got the impression that they meant blessed are you who brings bread from the earth as they were talking about farmers. But it does sound much better that they are talking about God. So when Jesus gave thanks to God at the Last Supper that was pretty much the Jewish custom and scriptural command?
As a bystander passing by; The title for this header confuses me
“Do Jews say grace?”
.,.,.then I realized that you would have to be a “Jew” to answer the question.
I am not; therefor I excuse myself from this discussion.
Bye. May you and yours live long and prosper.
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For this reason, I leave this discussion.
“Do Jews say grace?”
.,.,.then I realized that you would have to be a “Jew” to answer the question.
I am not; therefor I excuse myself from this discussion.
Bye. May you and yours live long and prosper.
-For this reason, I leave this discussion.
Do Jews say grace?
As a bystander; I am not a “Jew”. Therefore, I do not belong here.
May you and yours live long.,.,.,.,.,.,
.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.And prosper
Bye-
As a bystander; I am not a “Jew”. Therefore, I do not belong here.
May you and yours live long.,.,.,.,.,.,
.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.And prosper
Bye
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Google "spitting on Christians"
Now post how many hits you got.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.
just a suggestion.,,.,
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Tumah
Veteran Member
Deut. 8:9-10 "a land [in]which - not with scarcity shall you eat bread... and you shall eat, and you shall be sated, and you shall bless G-d your G-d for the good land that He gave you."
Grandliseur
Well-Known Member
Jesus did. So, perhaps at that time, it was a custom.
I know some Jews who are very devout and try to do what the OT and their tradition tells them to do. But, perhaps a Jew will answer your question.
It seems a bit peculiar that God would make such a big deal out of bread, except maybe there is some sort of symbolic meaning to it.
Tumah
Veteran Member
Or its the staple food...
Nope. Completely different meanings.