SethZaddik
Active Member
Sheesh guys. I'll try to make it simple.
I have no bias over which god is what. I also see outside of god-religious perspectives because I am not Jew, Christian, nor Muslim. So, what I say will sound wrong unless you try to understand what I say rather than prove me wrong.
That's like saying you believe in the Hindu creator because he is a creator.
Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are totally different religions. I don't see univeralist in any of these religions and especially in their practices and interpretations of god.
That depends. You believe there is only one creator. So, it does not make sense to you that there are more than one can be worshiped. If you looked at it from a true/false perspective, unless you are saying Muslims are the same as Christians, one got to be right (according to one side) and the other wrong. I know Muslims believe Jesus is a prophet. Christians believe jesus is god. How can you reconcile the Muslim god and the Christian god when one is a being and the other is human.
No sarcasm.
That's the fact. Each god-religion worships their god in the way their religion dictates them to worship him. If not, Muslims can take the Eucharist and Jews can pray at a Mosque.
Where have I said that?
I said they do not and that is why they don't believe in the same god.
Please read my posts.
The traditions and rules define the gods they believe in. The Eucharist is jesus christ. Do Muslims believe this? Do Jews? Jesus christ, to mainstream christianity, is god. Do Jews believe this? Christians believe jesus is the Messiah. Do Jews believe this?
These things define the creator and their differences define the creators they believe in.
Huh?
That's your belief. Look outside your point of view into others.
That is your belief. Look at it from my point of view.
I never said they did not. Point where?
If you like. Unfortunately, I can't speak for Jews and Muslims. Only say they have different traditions, practices, and if they were one, the creator would be contradicting himself.
No slightly. Walk into a christian church. Anyone. I walked into a Mosque and we have Muslims pray here at my school. No Christian (and scripture) does not support what you guys do. It must work boths ways. Ask a christian if they believe the bible tells them to do what the creator told Muslims to do. See what they say.
You believe in one creator. Of course, you can't see that people worship different creators. I can't expect you to see that just don't be saracstic or rude.
Yep. When I practiced Catholicism, we were part of the sacraments of christ. The traditions are not separate from their beliefs. As a Jew, I am surprised that you would see your traditions separate from your beliefs. But that's just me. I value tradition. Not many do.
If you like.
It's more, my aunt told my sister the story of my grandmother on my father's side and my cousin told me the story of my grandmother on my mother's side. While they are both grandmothers (hence why yall think they are the same) they are not. Regardless if we are part of the same family (children of abraham), the fact that your traditions define your creator makes you guys completely separate.
I can't expect you to see that since this is coming from outside in. Even when I was Catholic, I knew the Muslim god wasn't the Christian god. If that be the case, the Church would let Muslims take the Eucharist. They don't even let non-catholics take the Eucharist!
Christians believe in a different god than Muslims and Jews.
I cannot speak for Muslims and Jews only that they have different traditions and to me traditions define ones belief.
Further one of the myriad variants I mentioned of El, God in Hebrew usually rendered Elohim...
Is Eloah, a=e, remember?
Aloah, looking familiar?
Let's see what happens with no vowels, the way it was written:
Alah.
Well I will be damned!
Moses, Abraham, Ishmael, Israel, Aaron, Solomon, Jesus, Mary and many others are all mentionied in the Qur'an as are Jews and Christians and it is stated that all three have legitimate religions, that there is no compulsion in religion and that Judgement was not based on being a Muslim but on works, Righteousness and of course God.