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Do You Attend Church?

metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Little Dragon said:
I don't when exactly. The Catholic Church was founded or how or by whom, Peter?
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The Apostles appointed others to lead the Church, and that process continues through today. The name of the Church went from "the Way" (an informal name) to "Christian", and then to "Catholic" as the latter was used previously as a descriptor previously ("Universal").

Little Dragon said:
All I know is that is a hated enemy. As much as I should reject hate, in this case, I think not.
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Why is it a "hated enemy"?
 
shunyadragon

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
metis said:
Just not by that name.
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What name? Well . . . what we call RCC The Roman Church began and was established under Constantine by the Roman Bishhops hundreds of years after the life of Jesus Christ. Up until that time and later there were other variations of Christianity. Some sumerly eliminated by Rome.
 
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Sand Dancer

Sand Dancer

Crazy Cat Lady
Muffled said:
I believe you need to explain to me how you became a Christian in such a way that it would ruin a positive mindset. It certainly didn't work that way for me.
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Through a lot of it I was conservative/fundamentalist, so for a few years I became very narrow minded and almost arrogant in my thinking. Anti LGBT and almost anti-Catholic, judgmental, joining the American Family Association and boycotting companies. That's not my normal personality, so now I wish I could go back and apologize. I finally did realize that it wasn't very much like Jesus to keep people from doing what they wanted, so instead I started helping people do what they couldn't.
 
rocala

rocala

Well-Known Member
anna. said:
I've had the same sense of being drawn to the architecture and energy of churches, particularly ones like yours that have stood for centuries or longer. They were built to reach to the heavens, and I feel a similar energy you describe and I've been lucky to have stood in some very ancient churches and abbeys.
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Me too. I am not even Christian, but I have felt it strongly in those old places of worship. Just writing this is creating a desire to experience that again. It is not something that you forget.
 
metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
shunyadragon said:
What name? Well . . . what we call RCC The Roman Church began and was established under Constantine by the Roman Bishhops hundreds of years after the life of Jesus Christ. Up until that time and later there were other variations of Christianity. Some sumerly eliminated by Rome.
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The Church simply didn't disappear after Jesus and, later, the Apostles died, but there were name changes with the primary label: "the Way", Christian, then Catholic. "Roman Catholic Church" didn't get used until starting in roughly 1208.

At no point in history did the Church started by Jesus just disappear.
 
shunyadragon

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
metis said:
The Church simply didn't disappear after Jesus and, later, the Apostles died, but there were name changes with the primary label: "the Way", Christian, then Catholic. "Roman Catholic Church" didn't get used until starting in roughly 1208.

At no point in history did the Church started by Jesus just disappear.
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It did not disappear, but existed in a number of variations,
Considering there was a diversity of divisions of Christinaity you can't say the RCC (Roman Churh existed with another name before ~1208 AD.

What name?
 
shunyadragon

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
metis said:
As time went on, but we weren't talking about what splintered off.

"Catholic Church" as I tried to make clear by bolding the letters Roman.
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I am not considering what splinteres off, I am considering the diversity before eliminated the opposition.

I consider the RCC the Roman Church. Whether it is Catholic is for those that believe it is the universal church.
 
metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
shunyadragon said:
I am not considering what splinteres off, I am considering the diversity before eliminated the opposition.

I consider the RCC the Roman Church. Whether it is Catholic is for those that believe it is the universal church.
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Yes, you can believe in whatever floats your boat, but facts are facts.

BTW, I really couldn't care less one way or the other in regard to the name and the changes that took place, but the truth is the truth and rather easily to look up.
 
shunyadragon

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
metis said:
Yes, you can believe in whatever floats your boat, but facts are facts.

BTW, I really couldn't care less one way or the other in regard to the name and the changes that took place, but the truth is the truth and rather easily to look up.
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In terms of subjective religious belief and claims there is no such thing as "truth is the truth." It is so circular and self justifying it bites you in the butt.
 
metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
shunyadragon said:
In terms of subjective religious belief and claims there is no such thing as "truth is the truth." It is so circular and self justifying it bites you in the butt.
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You are conflating two different things, and since you are unwilling to actually do the research and would rather just argue, I have had more than enough of your petty nonsense.
 
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