Do You Believe in God?

[Zigzangle]

There is no verifiable evidence that a god of any sort exists, I think they are all human creations.

 

[TruthEnder]

Why would God do that, if there is a God?

First of all, I understand the agony of this thought, and I give you all my well wishes right now.

However, this is hilarious because so many theists just don't know how to properly respond to this question. I personally don't believe in God, but if I did I would have the decency to say to you "Because God is a dick" and try to console you. What's he going to do, smite me?

 

[dgirl1986]

I do not believe because there is no reason for me to believe thus far. People will try to push it on me why I should believe but the fact is that no one will ever know if gods really exist until they die...presuming that isn't the end.

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

I believe in Creator till the last breath on earth.

 

[psychoslice]

I believe in Creator till the last breath on earth.

and then you will find out if there is one or not, well if not of course you wouldn't never know, now that is what I call heaven, eternal sleep.

 

[Trichakra]

The short answer is no. I do not believe in a god

Why you don't believe in god?? Let us know the reason...

 

[Zigzangle]

There is no evidence any god exists.

 

[ArtieE]

I understand some people and faiths believe that death is a sleeping process until final judgement comes,

Christians who actually follow the Bible believe that.

I'm just sharing that what I experienced was different from some biblical views and I fully expect to stay consciousness when it is my time to finally cross over to that wonderful place on the other side. Until that faithful day comes though, I am really enjoying my life here and living every precious drop it has for me to experience.

And other people have other subjective experiences leading them to believe other things. Some Hindus for example describe they meet Yamraj, the Hindu god of the dead, in near death experiences. Some people have subjective experiences leading them to believe they have been reincarnated many times and lived many lives. Some people have subjective experiences leading them to believe they are being abducted by aliens. I know that people are capable of believing all kinds of weird and wonderful things, what I'm interested in is if there is any actual objective truth behind all these subjective experiences and beliefs. Do you have any actual objective evidence backing up your story?

 

[Muffled]

Should we also apply this principle to the omission of "don't rape" and "don't enslave people" from the lists of commandments?

I believe rape come under "Do not commit adultery." However if one did't except that there would be the injunction against fornication.

I believe slavery would fall under "Love your enemies." In essence one form of slavery was similar to the idea of the government making a person do community projects for a handout. The prodigal son figured he would be better off as a slave of his father than the person who got to finish off eating what the pigs left.

 

[Muffled]

Hello muffled when I said I believe that there will be family waiting for me on the other side when I cross over to the Spiritual Realm of Heaven I was referring to my Spiritual Family and not necessarily my biological one but to me it's irreverent because the love I have seen on the other side has clearly shown me that we are all part of a wonderful family to belong to if we so choose!

In regards to my joke about being rejected by Heaven, I only joked about it because of my Christian friends teasing me about not making it to Heaven because I am a Witch. In all actuality, I wasn't being sent back to Earth because of something I did right or wrong, I was told I was being sent back to Earth simply because it was not my time to cross over to Heaven/Summer Land. I hope that clarifies some of the confusion you might have had about my post?

As a Christian and as a Witch I have seen so many dimensions of God that makes me appreciate the many wonderful and complex fabric to what our Divine really is! In regards to other religious faiths or non faith for that matter, my Divine directive was not to judge people who reject the Abrahamic God, but to love them unconditionally as a family member would and to offer them a home and a family to come back to if that is something they wish.

I love the directive from my Divine, I don't have to save the world, or force my will upon anyone, I simply have to love them and have faith they will make the right decisions in their life and if they need my help, I should try to assist them in any way I can.

I believe that has a ring to it. I met my wife in Heaven but for me I would rather be in physical life where the action is. The only question is whether I can bear my cross ie suffer at the hands of evil men.

I wouldn't be so quick as to say that a glimpse of Heaven meant that you would go there. I believe witchcraft is something God does not like so He will probably work to get you to abandon it. It is difficult to say where He didn't say anything specific about it but then He has a tendency to allow us to discover things for ourselves.

I believe this is a typical directive. No-one can force anyone's will. It just doesn't work.

 

[Muffled]

According to the Bible we don't go anywhere when we die we just sleep in our graves awaiting resurrection. See http://www.bibleinfo.com/en/questions/what-does-bible-say-about-death

I believe you have generalized a particular case while avoiding the information that says otherwise.

 

[ArtieE]

I believe you have generalized a particular case while avoiding the information that says otherwise.

Well, ShadowFire described his NDE in detail, is there anything in the Bible saying that what he described is what happens right after physical death?

 

[ArtieE]

I believe that has a ring to it. I met my wife in Heaven but for me I would rather be in physical life where the action is. The only question is whether I can bear my cross ie suffer at the hands of evil men.

Does that mean that you were both reincarnated?

 

[YmirGF]

Why you don't believe in god?? Let us know the reason...

*Gets out rickety old soap-box*
*Hops up onto it*

I know for a fact that the average mortal simply would not understand my reasons. They are decidedly counter-intuitive.

I had a brief fling with the Hare Krsna Movement, ISKCON, way back in the 70's (for a few years). I was entranced by the idea they promoted that one could actually meet god. Why would they say such a thing? Eager and not aware of what may now seem to be quite impossible I took them at their word. Yes, it is possible to "meet" god, face to face. Having the good fortune of realizing my goal, I was stuck by something I saw, reflected in the massive eyes of Vishnu. That gnosis point was pivotal but it took another several years to work out what it all meant. The experience did help me to resolve my current views of personality, self and being.

There is much more behind the "I" than most suspect and one may indeed meet "gods" on the journey down to the source of their being. One will also make incorrect assumptions along the way as understanding unfolds, but if understanding continues to unfold and does not get bogged down, even the side trips to deity can be rather enlightening. They are almost like street lamps along the dark path on the journey into the unknown.

*Climbs down off soap-box*
*Tucks said box under an arm and waddles away ... ... giggling*

 

[ShadowFire]

Christians who actually follow the Bible believe that.And other people have other subjective experiences leading them to believe other things. Some Hindus for example describe they meet Yamraj, the Hindu god of the dead, in near death experiences. Some people have subjective experiences leading them to believe they have been reincarnated many times and lived many lives. Some people have subjective experiences leading them to believe they are being abducted by aliens. I know that people are capable of believing all kinds of weird and wonderful things, what I'm interested in is if there is any actual objective truth behind all these subjective experiences and beliefs. Do you have any actual objective evidence backing up your story?

ArtieE I shared my story of what I think happened during my death and hope it inspires and comforts people that they do not have to face death alone, i sincerely believe there will be family on the other side to be there for them in their most critical time of need. You can accept or reject my story I really do not care, if you want to debate start another thread and have fun arguing with people, I wish you well on your endeavour!

 

[ArtieE]

ArtieE I shared my story of what I think happened during my death and hope it inspires and comforts people that they do not have to face death alone, i sincerely believe there will be family on the other side to be there for them in their most critical time of need. You can accept or reject my story I really do not care, if you want to debate start another thread and have fun arguing with people, I wish you well on your endeavour!

Thanks. I just wish that people who have NDEs could come back with some useful, valuable and scientifically verifiable information and evidence instead of just the standard fare. What if the military could train soldiers and send them on fact finding missions across? Imagine how many questions we might get answered.

 

[Eliab ben Benjamin]

what kind of verifiable information, i came back with a verified illness and death of my grandmother,
which included diagnosis that was not confirmed until 3 months after my nDE

 

[ArtieE]

what kind of verifiable information, i came back with a verified illness and death of my grandmother,
which included diagnosis that was not confirmed until 3 months after my nDE

A cure for cancer, a way to solve our energy crisis, a way to clean up our polluted earth, a way to avoid famine and drought, you know, something actually useful. Instead all we mostly get is "It was so amazing! I felt so loved!"

 

[Eliab ben Benjamin]

Ah perhaps then the founding of a Head Injury Soc. Disability Act, 7 Inventions to improve
life support equipment, or perhaps i need find someone to manufacture my roof design,
to remove the need for power stations, or mayhap we will soon all drive solar powered
electric cars to cease the environmental pollution ..
as for the cure for cancer .... simple stop eating processed food full of preservatives ..
note: Preservatives = life killing chemicals (to kill bacteria) yes i know they say they
are safe levels..... lol but folks still get cancer

edit to add: : oh and become vegetarian and grow most of my own fruit and vegetables
in my garden.

 

[ArtieE]

Ah perhaps then the founding of a Head Injury Soc. Disability Act, 7 Inventions to improve
life support equipment, or perhaps i need find someone to manufacture my roof design,
to remove the need for power stations, or mayhap we will soon all drive solar powered
electric cars to cease the environmental pollution ..
as for the cure for cancer .... simple stop eating processed food full of preservatives ..
note: Preservatives = life killing chemicals (to kill bacteria) yes i know they say they
are safe levels..... lol but folks still get cancer

You know what I mean. People supposedly have a chance to communicate with "superior" beings with much more knowledge than we have and what do we get out of it? "I am loved"! What if there are secret government programs training special forces to cross over and trap some of these beings, even this "Royal Figure", and bring them back? Like the Ghostbusters?