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I agree.
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Do you believe in the trinity?
- Thread starter Gnostic Seeker
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Nada
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Jesus is not Jehovah.
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
No, just a separate G-d praying to another G-d, sorry that just doesn't jive to me.
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
Basically, yes.
Nada
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This is incorrect.Why would Jesus, who is considered omnipotent, by Trinitarians, have to ask himself permission for anything? This is totally ridiculous.Omnipotent means Almighty,all powerful.Someone who is omnipotent does not need permission for anything.
Nada
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There is much that you do not understand.
It is a convenient understanding of God, the Logos and man.
Man being a manifestation of the Logos and the Logos being a manifestation of God.
Holy spirit is God's power says you so the forth one is wrong. If one of God's qualities is power and the Holy Spirit is power then God's attributes are Love, Wisdom, Justice and Holy Spirit.
Or maybe they are Love, Justice, Wisdom and Truth. If truth is not one of God's qualities and God IS true and for the truth, then which quality includes it?
InChrist
Free4ever
According to the scriptures Jesus did not "ask Himself".. He asked His Father. The reason He asked His Father is because in the relationship between Father and the Son the Son always chooses to submit His will to that of the Father. This does not is any way negate the omnipotent nature of the Son because this submission is an integral aspect of the triune nature of the eternal Godhead.
Besides that, the scriptures are clear that while on earth the Son lowered and humbled Himself in the Person of Jesus to the position of a servant ... Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross.Phil. 2:5-8
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No I do not
Gnostic Seeker
Spiritual
Upon re-reading your post, I must say your understanding of the trinity is very mystic, but not very orthodox. It also makes Jesus no more unique than any other person, and his being the unique Son is a key tenant of the trinity doctrine.
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
Uh, yeah, right.
Nada
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Seriously.......
Sand Dancer
Currently catless
I know most Christians do, but I don't understand the need for it.
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well...Thank you. My vision is Jesus is personal and is the result of my Pelagian beliefs. I strongly believe that Jesus is not different than us. We all are unique and as you said, he was no more unique than we are.
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
The 'description' is, yes. It's used to describe something found in Scripture, but it's confusing for many, and in fact can have more than one meaning.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Do you believe in the trinity?
No, Jesus never believed in it.
This was invented by Paul.
Jesus' second coming has taken place to refute it as it has been invented in his name. Quran mentions Jesus absolving himself from authoring Trinity or anything like it .
Regards
No, Jesus never believed in it.
This was invented by Paul.
Jesus' second coming has taken place to refute it as it has been invented in his name. Quran mentions Jesus absolving himself from authoring Trinity or anything like it .
Regards
Muffled
Jesus in me
Welcome to RF.
I believe the Trinity is the one God and one Lord.
I believe one ought to go by scriptures rather than conjecture.
He said "I and my Father are one."