ravenstrike
Court Jester
Then why is he on this forum?
i'm just asking, but it would seem that the point of this forum (or at least some threads) is to argue over religion.
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Do You Hate God?
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i'm just asking, but it would seem that the point of this forum (or at least some threads) is to argue over religion.
Magic Man
Reaper of Conversation
because blind faith is damaging, and if you can't argue a faith, then it must be blind. I'm sure that groundless faith has killed more people than any disease, or war, ever.
also, the whole "one sentence reply" was killing me
As with anything, blind faith can be damaging, but it's not inherently bad. Religion in general has caused many bad things to happen. That doesn't mean it's not good in some ways.
ravenstrike
Court Jester
i'm not seeing it good in any way
mind enlightening me?
mind enlightening me?
Magic Man
Reaper of Conversation
Just because someone believes blindly in a religion doesn't mean they're going to go out and commit some heinous act. Blind faith makes some people happy without hurting others.
Don Penguinoini
Modi.
people over use the term blind faith!
ravenstrike
Court Jester
and what good is blind faith?
hope?
hope does no good. It doesn't feed the hungry, or cure the sick. Maybe if we all lost hope and saw the world in it's true shambles and perverse nature, we might actually be able to fix something
hope?
hope does no good. It doesn't feed the hungry, or cure the sick. Maybe if we all lost hope and saw the world in it's true shambles and perverse nature, we might actually be able to fix something
Magic Man
Reaper of Conversation
Did my previous responses not answer your question adequately?
If we didn't have hope, nothing would get fixed. We would look at all of the crap going on and feel like their was no reason to try to fix it because it was hopeless. So we'd give up and let things continue to get worse.
I hope to become a writer some day, so it might actually happen. If I didn't have that hope, I wouldn't even attempt it in the first place.
ravenstrike
Court Jester
touche, but nonetheless
i'm not saying that faith is evil, i'm saying groundless faith is.
you hope to be a writer because, judging by your post's
you can write exceedingly well!
but belief in a cosmic jewish zombie is groundless
i'm not saying that faith is evil, i'm saying groundless faith is.
you hope to be a writer because, judging by your post's
you can write exceedingly well!
but belief in a cosmic jewish zombie is groundless
Magic Man
Reaper of Conversation
Thanks!
I agree that believing something without knowing exactly why isn't the best way to live, but to each his/her own.
Another example can be found in "American Idol". There are a lot of people who audition for that show who are horrible singers, and yet most of them say that their friends and family encouraged them to try out. If they want to believe that they're good singers, even if there's no good reason to think so, I don't see that as a problem. It's only when they go to try out for a show like that, that I think someone should tell them the truth. Just like someone having blind faith in a religion is fine as long as they don't feel any negaive impact from it due to others' perceptions and they don't negatively affect someone else as a result of it.
methylatedghosts
Can't brain. Has dumb.
Don Penguinoini
Modi.
Gandhi hd faith he could drive the British out, Martin Luther King Jr. had faith he could get equal rights for blacks, now ont tell me hope does no good.
agent_smith
I evolved.
Don't tell me hope does no bad!
Now, then... does "hope" (i.e. religion) do more good or more bad?
The majority of people in the USA believe in God. What are the teen pregnancy, crime, homicide and abortion rates?
The majority of people in the UK (at last) do not believe in God. What are the teen pregnancy, homicide and abortion rates?
Do some research.
Don Penguinoini
Modi.
Teen pregnancy, hmm.. let me see, my freind recently got pregnant, 14, my freind recently had sex, 13... Lots of east boys stabbing. As for abortion, nothing bad about it. Britian is bad and becoming even worse, so that was a not a good choice, i do live here so i know what it is like, i dont need statistics.
camanintx
Well-Known Member
Until someone can prove that their God exists, it is just a story to used to explain their world view. Unless you can show where someone has proven that their God exists, this definition of myth would seem to cover all God concepts.
Magic Man
Reaper of Conversation
What does any of that have to do with hope?
Anything can do bad, some things just do it more than others. Hope does more good than bad without question.
agent_smith
I evolved.
One tiny area of a country does not present a fair picture of the country as a whole. You DO need statistics.
Don't avoid what I said.
agent_smith
I evolved.
I am saying "hope" in relation to religion (e.g. hope in life after death, not hope in winning the lottery). I also said to do research - i.e. question it.
Only as far as the audience is concerned.
A Lurking Shadow
I'm a slave to your will
With a passion.
crystalonyx
Well-Known Member
There is no god to hate, I dislike some god concepts.