Do you KNOW God does not exist?

[Thief]

and there are two levels of ignorance.
They, who are not informed are ignorant.
They, who choose to ignore, are profoundly ignorant.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

This whole thread is circular !
~
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Surprised?

 

[Unveiled Artist]

The first poll answer in the lead. The last two trying to make a curve around. Who will win?

No, I know God does not exist

Or

No, I believe God exist does exist

And

Yes, I know God exists.

18 more days left.
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[DawudTalut]

Asked question and and provided answers


Do you KNOW God does Not exist?

1. Yes, I know He does not exist
2. No, I do not know He does not exist
3. No, I believe He exists
4. No, I believe He does not exist
5. Yes. I know He does exist

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Peace be on all.

Considering explanation # 32,
It seems, in above options, there is no option for a person who is 100% sure that God DOES exist.


My position: I personally humbly understand, know and believe with 100 % surety and certainty that God DOES exist.

Then which of following answers will be applicable to the OP-question [i.e. Do you KNOW God does Not exist?] [suggestion will be appreciated]

No, I believe He exists.
Yes, I know He does exist.

I would like to see 6 th option as:

"On the contrary, what I know with surety is that God does exist."

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Asked question and and provided answers


Do you KNOW God does Not exist?

1. Yes, I know He does not exist
2. No, I do not know He does not exist
3. No, I believe He exists
4. No, I believe He does not exist
5. Yes. I know He does exist

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Peace be on all.

Considering explanation # 32,
It seems, in above options, there is no option for a person who is 100% sure that God DOES exist.


My position: I personally humbly understand, know and believe with 100 % surety and certainty that God DOES exist.

Then which of following answers will be applicable to the OP-question [i.e. Do you KNOW God does Not exist?] [suggestion will be appreciated]

No, I believe He exists.
Yes, I know He does exist.

I would like to see 6 th option as:

"On the contrary, what I know with surety is that God does exist."

A sixth option? No exclusion or strings attached. Do you know He does Not exist? (100 percent without a doubt) Do you not know (100 percent without a doubt) He does not exist? (Bad wording)

Do you believe He does not exist (He could exist but you just don't believe it.)

Do you believe He does exist (Even if He did not, you still believe He does)

The former is asking what you Know the later two are asking what you Believe.

Do you know God exist or doesn't exist?

or

Do you believe or don't believe He exists?

This is what I wanted to know:

My position: I personally humbly understand, know and believe with 100 % surety and certainty that God DOES exist.

Nothing complicated.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

and there are two levels of ignorance.
They, who are not informed are ignorant.
They, who choose to ignore, are profoundly ignorant.

From the words of Men in Black:

J: Have you forgotten? There's an alien battle cruiser--

K: There's always an alien battle cruiser or a Korilian death ray...or an intergalactic plague about to wipe out life on this planet.

The only way people get on with their happy lives... is they do, not, know about it!

--

Maybe some of us survive by being ignorant. Who knows?

 

[Thief]

From the words of Men in Black:

J: Have you forgotten? There's an alien battle cruiser--

K: There's always an alien battle cruiser or a Korilian death ray...or an intergalactic plague about to wipe out life on this planet.

The only way people get on with their happy lives... is they do, not, know about it!

--

Maybe some of us survive by being ignorant. Who knows?

I love Star trek...and other science fiction.
often the parallels are 'pointed'.

But I will not be allowed to plead ignorance as I stand before God and heaven.
I know better.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I love Star trek...and other science fiction.
often the parallels are 'pointed'.

But I will not be allowed to plead ignorance as I stand before God and heaven.
I know better.

When I see you staring dumbfounded in disbelief at Ragnarok, I'll say hello.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I love Star trek...and other science fiction.
often the parallels are 'pointed'.

But I will not be allowed to plead ignorance as I stand before God and heaven.
I know better.

You mean men in black? (Love star trek)

"Maybe some" of "us (I included) survive by ignorance." We cant claim to know everything and, we have to be comfortable that we will be ignorant to some things beyond our ability to learn.

What would do if you knew everything? (Think of Bruce Almighty now). Do you feel its in your best interest to know it all?

I feel comfortable not knowing and not needing evidence for God's existence. Im ignorant to evidence that others claim proves otherwise. Its a waste of my time, actually. Thats how ignorance of wanting to know everything is not detrimital to my survival; my time is short, I dont want to waste it.

Everyone is different. Thats why I said some and "who knows?" We dont.

 

[philbo]

But you don't seem to understand that claims cannot always be proven. Technically, they are beliefs/knowledge, though.

Some claims lead to expected observations, though.

e.g. the Earth going round the Sun leads to expected positions of the Earth which lets us work out how to, say, fire a rocket at Mars when that comes around

..or the claim that there is a god who can perform miracles & listens to prayer would lead to an expectation that prayer will cause the miraculous to happen.. which, of course, it doesn't (in fact, it doesn't happen so reliably that people redefine "miraculous" as "fortuitously coincidental" so they can believe miracles actually happen)

 

[Thief]

You mean men in black? (Love star trek)

"Maybe some" of "us (I included) survive by ignorance." We cant claim to know everything and, we have to be comfortable that we will be ignorant to some things beyond our ability to learn.

What would do if you knew everything? (Think of Bruce Almighty now). Do you feel its in your best interest to know it all?

I feel comfortable not knowing and not needing evidence for God's existence. Im ignorant to evidence that others claim proves otherwise. Its a waste of my time, actually. Thats how ignorance of wanting to know everything is not detrimital to my survival; my time is short, I dont want to waste it.

Everyone is different. Thats why I said some and "who knows?" We dont.

and some do say the Almighty knows all.

Shall we do a thread on that?

 

[Unveiled Artist]

and some do say the Almighty knows all.

Shall we do a thread o that?

Well, according to "them" He does. Thread to that? What do you mean?

 

[Twilight Hue]

God does not exist. 100%

 

[Debater Slayer]

I voted "Yes, I know He does not exist." I had to contemplate whether to vote for that or "I do not know he does not exist," but at the end of the day, I "don't know" whether a god exists the same way I "don't know" whether dragons exist. For all intents and purposes, I'm sure that neither dragons nor gods exist.

 

[Conceivia]

The data shows 100% proof that God does exist, but my faith still lags behind. To me, it is like I am the only one who believes, and that makes it difficult to have 100% faith.

As an inventor, I am used to being the only person in the World who believes in something. Even so, it is always difficult to fully believe when nobody else believes. When everyone around you is tilling you it won't work or something. Only after I see it work to do I fully believe.

So it is like I 100% know, but I don't quite 100% believe.

Tony

 

[leibowde84]

The events you go through cause you to be unique.
Your linear existence ensures it.

Of course, walking among angels will be a high standard.
and finding that high standard among people with little or no spiritual intent....
Many will fail.
Few find the way.

You failed to address my question. God has control over everything, so why would God want people to fail to "gel". I, of course, know why they wouldn't gel. My question is why would God want this to happen.

 

[leibowde84]

There is no evidence he is outside a concept. That's makes it not an assumption.

That is not true. The mere fact that there is a lack of evidence for something does not negate the assumption. You are "assuming" that "because there is no evidence to the contrary" that God is merely a concept. That is clearly an assumption. That being said, anyone claiming that God is more than a concept is making the opposite assumption, as evidence for this view is lacking as well.

 

[leibowde84]

How is it circular?

All I'm saying is that the term "god" is defined not only in terms of physical (and metaphysical/supernatural?) attributes, but also in terms of the relationship between the "god" and humanity. If there's no relationship, it's not a god.

Consider the term "king", which works in a similar way: if a person doesn't rule over anyone, he's not a king regardless of how "regal" he is. In a similar way, an entity/thing/whatever that is not worshipped is not a god.

Where are you getting the notion that to be a "god" one must be worshiped?

 

[dust1n]

I am only curious of how many people on RF state that they 100% KNOW God does not exist.

Hmm, I voted 100%, but I don't know God 100% doesn't exist. I just know 100% that it doesn't matter and know 100% that I acquire no value for speculating the existence of an entity thats only mention was from the mouths of people.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Where are you getting the notion that to be a "god" one must be worshiped?

Partly from usage I've observed, partly from normal definitions... for instance:

1 capitalized :the supreme or ultimate reality: as

a :the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe

b Christian Science :the incorporeal divine Principle ruling over all as eternal Spirit :infinite Mind

2:a being or object believed to have more than natural attributes and powers and to require human worship; specifically ne controlling a particular aspect or part of reality

God | Definition of god by Merriam-Webster

Where are you getting the idea that gods aren't necessarily worshipped?