Do You Know Why You Don't Believe?

[Jayhawker Soule]

Maybe you don't have any evidence that God does not exist? Then why don't you believe?

That is an inordinantly tiresome and stupid question that reeks of non sequitur.

You don't even know, do you?

I do ...

 

[Papersock]

The burden of proof does not lie on the believer. What a convenient view for you to take? The burden of proof lie's on anyone who makes a claim, believer or not.

I do not believe in fairies, unicorns, giants, or any other mythological creatures that could be named. Do I have to give absolute proof that they do not exist in order to validate not believing in them?

 

[Tiberius]

You need to find God? I didn't say that.

I said it's bad for you not to believe? No, I did not say that either. Read slower.

The only evidence for God are religious texts? No, the universe is evidence. The earth is, and most of all, life.

How is the universe, Earth and life evidence? How have you eliminated every other possible explanation? (Because I don't think you have. I think you've just decided "Goddidit" is easier on your brain than saying you don't know.)

 

[Super Universe]

That is an inordinantly tiresome and stupid question that reeks of non sequitur.

I do ...

It's no more tiresome than the typical athiest reply that believers have to provide proof of God while they somehow don't have to provide any disproving Him.

Thanks for playing but since you avoided answering the OP, next time, don't bother.

 

[Super Universe]

I do not believe in fairies, unicorns, giants, or any other mythological creatures that could be named. Do I have to give absolute proof that they do not exist in order to validate not believing in them?

No, you do not have to give absolute proof to believe in anything. The point of this thread is to get you to admit the burden of proof you require.

Even so, are you willing to say that a horse with a single horn, in the entire history of the earth, has never, ever, been born?

How about a giant?

 

[Super Universe]

How is the universe, Earth and life evidence? How have you eliminated every other possible explanation? (Because I don't think you have. I think you've just decided "Goddidit" is easier on your brain than saying you don't know.)

How is the universe, the earth, and life evidence of intelligent design? Phenomenal complexity.

Have I eliminated every other possible explanation? It seems to me there are only two options available to you, either intelligence behind the design or not. There is no room for any other explanation for me. I will not, can not, forget what I've seen.

Actually, not having God would make it much harder to understand the universe. How exactly do atoms create and assemble themselves again? Then how do atoms create physical laws, energy, gravity, and life?

 

[Papersock]

No, you do not have to give absolute proof to believe in anything. The point of this thread is to get you to admit the burden of proof you require.

I was talking about proof for not believing in something. The reason for not believing in certain things is lack of evidence for those things. It is reasonable to assume that something that cannot be proven must not be real.

Even so, are you willing to say that a horse with a single horn, in the entire history of the earth, has never, ever, been born? How about a giant?

I cannot say for certain that a horse-like creature with a single horn has never existed. But I am fairly certain that an actual, mystical unicorn has never existed. And I can also be fairly certain that giants (giant people) have never existed because there is no evidence that they did.

 

[Papersock]

Actually, not having God would make it much harder to understand the universe. How exactly do atoms create and assemble themselves again? Then how do atoms create physical laws, energy, gravity, and life?

Those are indeed difficult questions. No wonder it has taken people so long to even start to understand it.
But, it seems to me that believing god did does not help us understand the universe at all. It doesn't explain anything.

How exactly are atoms created and assembled? God does it. What creates energy, gravity and life? God does. Why is it the way it is? God chose to make it that way.

 

[gnomon]

I have not read the whole thread so let me see if I have this straight.

God -----> a little hocus pocus ------> Universe.

And if I don't believe that I have to provide proof?

Who'dathunkit?

 

[Super Universe]

I was talking about proof for not believing in something. The reason for not believing in certain things is lack of evidence for those things. It is reasonable to assume that something that cannot be proven must not be real.



I cannot say for certain that a horse-like creature with a single horn has never existed. But I am fairly certain that an actual, mystical unicorn has never existed. And I can also be fairly certain that giants (giant people) have never existed because there is no evidence that they did.

Robert Wadlow - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Super Universe]

Those are indeed difficult questions. No wonder it has taken people so long to even start to understand it.
But, it seems to me that believing god did does not help us understand the universe at all. It doesn't explain anything.

How exactly are atoms created and assembled? God does it. What creates energy, gravity and life? God does. Why is it the way it is? God chose to make it that way.

God is an absolute necessity in order for advanced scientific understanding of the universe. Your scientists aren't quite there yet but they have been bumping their heads against this for a while now.

In order for you to truly understand String Theory, the source of gravity, how your sun works, and how the earth processes energy, you have to develop a science based Theory of God.

Give it another 80 years or so...

 

[Papersock]

Robert Wadlow - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oh, I guess there must be a god then.

Actually, he's not a giant in the mythological sense. He's a large person. Does he belong to a race of other people his size?

 

[Super Universe]

I have not read the whole thread so let me see if I have this straight.

God -----> a little hocus pocus ------> Universe.

And if I don't believe that I have to provide proof?

Who'dathunkit?

Uh, you could have answered the OP instead of skipping to the end?

But let me see if I have your view straight:

I don't know ------> a little hocus pocus --------> Universe.

 

[Papersock]

God is an absolute necessity in order for advanced scientific understanding of the universe. Your scientists aren't quite there yet but they have been bumping their heads against this for a while now.

In order for you to truly understand String Theory, the source of gravity, how your sun works, and how the earth processes energy, you have to develop a science based Theory of God.

Give it another 80 years or so...

My scientists and my sun? Do we have seperate scientists and suns?

 

[Buttercup]

Uh, you could have answered the OP instead of skipping to the end?

But let me see if I have your view straight:

I don't know ------> a little hocus pocus --------> Universe.

*sigh* This is the silliest thread I've seen in a long time. You ask people to answer why they don't believe in God and then insult our intelligence with your empty posts.

You have absolutely no idea if God exists.....and neither do we. End of discussion.

 

[gnomon]

Uh, you could have answered the OP instead of skipping to the end?

But let me see if I have your view straight:

I don't know ------> a little hocus pocus --------> Universe.

I already answered the OP directly. But it's lost back on page...I have no idea. I'll have to dig back and repost it. To be frank, the OP seems to have started at one point, jumped off course and decided to change plans entirely.

But I think the process goes more like this,

People don't have a clue ---> Make some **** up ----> rather uninformed view of the Universe

edit: Am I the only with an image of the underpants gnomes in South Park. Of course, there was a rational behind the underpants gnomes. I like gnomes. Nothing to do with gnomon as far as I know.

 

[Super Universe]

Oh, I guess there must be a god then.

Actually, he's not a giant in the mythological sense. He's a large person. Does he belong to a race of other people his size?

He's a giant. Someone his size would scare the heck out of ancient peoples just as any person born with any deformity or other significant difference. Ancient people were quite ignorant and often blamed their gods or spirits and eventually God for these things.

If he belonged to a small community and he chose a wife who was also very tall and they had children, what do you think would happen?

Maybe, a community of giants?

 

[Papersock]

But I think the process goes more like this,

People don't have a clue ---> Make some **** up ----> rather uninformed view of the Universe

Or maybe more like this:

People don't have a clue ----> Make **** up ----> check to see if the evidence fits with the made up **** ----> try to reach a slightly more informed view of the universe

 

[gnomon]

Or maybe more like this:

People don't have a clue ----> Make **** up ----> check to see if the evidence fits with the made up **** ----> try to reach a slightly more informed view of the universe

That sounds more like it. Just have to add "drop the evidence in case it doesn't match up with made up ****" at the end and I think we have a perfect flowchart.

 

[Super Universe]

*sigh* This is the silliest thread I've seen in a long time. You ask people to answer why they don't believe in God and then insult our intelligence with your empty posts.

You have absolutely no idea if God exists.....and neither do we. End of discussion.

Oh, I'm so sorry. I must be to blame for you choosing to look at my silly thread. Sorry, my fault.

Oh, why did you give me frubals and say "Great thread, btw"?

You're quite the fickel one aren't you?