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Do you own any guns

Do you own any guns

  • Yes

    Votes: 17 35.4%
  • No

    Votes: 31 64.6%

  • Total voters
    48

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Nah. Yanks are a bunch of trigger happy lunatics
Hey now, not all of us are trigger happy...
My country of drunken rednecks only needed one mass shooting to tell us that we needed to regulate guns.
How many has America had since the 1990s again? 50? 60?
It looks like we've had ~131 so far this year, but it's still early....

Personally owned guns: several staple guns and three caulking guns -- but one doesn't work very well.
 

VoidCat

Use any and all pronouns including neo and it/it's
I own a taser. Cant have it at the group home tho so I have a friend holding onto it. No actual guns I dont want to permanently injure anyone if I were attacked a taser works.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
I voted yes, but air pistols (Webley) are legal in the UK without a licence (presumably considered to be guns), and it was mainly bought to scare aware the pigeons in the garden and who were scoffing all the food put out for other birds. I have had a pen-like flare gun (licence required perhaps, as for some ship's flares) when I owned a yacht some decades ago but it seemingly has gone missing and the cartridges were rather decayed and binned long ago. I have fired a pistol though. One of the delights of rock-climbing in a quarry and where there was some target practice going on there. One chap obligingly letting me have a go. o_O
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
What shocks me about the United States...is that teenagers manage to get firearms in some states...
but at the same time ....alcohol is like the most forbidden thing for teenagers.
They even check people's ID to sell them alcohol.

Here in my country...there's anarchy as for alcohol. There's the middle-schooler that buys vodka bottles in the supermarket and tells the cashier: "It's for my dad"... and they reply: "ok, dear".
But here not even adults can buy firearms unless they have a firearm license. And they don't give the license to any person. They need a medical expertise.

As if alcohol were more dangerous than a gun. Wow..
 
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Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
What shocks me about the United States...is that teenagers manage to get firearms in some states...
but at the same time ....alcohol is like the most forbidden thing for teenagers.
They even check people's ID to sell them alcohol.

Here in my country...there's anarchy as for alcohol. There's the middle-schooler that buys vodka bottles in the supermarket and tells the cashier: "It's for my dad"... and they reply: "ok, dear".
But here not even adults can buy firearms unless they have a firearm license. And they don't give the license to any person. They need a medical expertise.

As if alcohol were more dangerous than a gun. Wow..
Many might be grateful, given alcohol and guns might not be a good mix. But I would agree as to this being the wrong way around. o_O
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Many might be grateful, given alcohol and guns might not be a good mix. But I would agree as to this being the wrong way around. o_O
Teenagers cannot drive anyway because they don't have a driving license...so what's wrong with drinking some vodka at 14? ;)
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
Teenagers cannot drive anyway because they don't have a driving license...so what's wrong with drinking some vodka at 14? ;)
Probably the same reason why it's not good to get hooked on vaping at such a young age - which probably will pan out as for smoking, in causing so many health issues later in life - so it makes sense not to encourage habits to form. I can't remember the laws in the UK but drinking alcohol under 18 is not illegal here as far as I know, but purchasing it is I believe.
 

mangalavara

नमस्कार
Premium Member
But here not even adults can buy firearms unless they have a firearm license. And they don't give the license to any person. They need a medical expertise.

Interesting. Where you live, do you feel safe when you’re out in public?

I’m an American but I have been living in an East Asian country for a little more than a year now. Here, the vast majority of people do not own any firearms. A person can own one for hunting, and it has to be stored at a police station. Most police officers don’t carry a firearm. Young men though learn how to use them due to mandatory military service. All in all, this is a very safe place to live. There is nothing to worry about when walking outside even at night. It is more than the lack of firearm circulation though. In spite of the rather violent TV shows and films, the culture is very different from that of my homeland.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Interesting. Where you live, do you feel safe when you’re out in public?

Yes, I guess I feel pretty safe because you know, it's very difficult for criminals to own a gun, so that reassures me.
Besides, I think there are neighborhoods with tens of cameras in every corner and that dissuades delinquents.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
Interesting. Where you live, do you feel safe when you’re out in public?

I’m an American but I have been living in an East Asian country for a little more than a year now. Here, the vast majority of people do not own any firearms. A person can own one for hunting, and it has to be stored at a police station. Most police officers don’t carry a firearm. Young men though learn how to use them due to mandatory military service. All in all, this is a very safe place to live. There is nothing to worry about when walking outside even at night. It is more than the lack of firearm circulation though. In spite of the rather violent TV shows and films, the culture is very different from that of my homeland.
I suspect that those Americans who have travelled widely and/or lived in another country for any length of time, especially those with more tight gun laws, might be more amenable to the view that the USA should go the same way, even if such took a long time to enact. Having lived in the UK all my life (but widely travelled) I'm sure I am like most in not needing any special defensive measures over what is normal - locks and communication devices to summon aid - given that even if crime (burglary mainly) might be just as common as in many other countries, living in fear of such is just not any way to live one's life.

Such that it might only be by a sufficient majority wanting a different society that such will happen. And at the expense of much no doubt, but I believe all the measures proposed by those keen to keep the current status quo will have little effect, and where the only proper course is to remove the general access to weapons unless for specific uses.
 
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Here's my question....

If guns are the problem, why haven't my guns killed any humans?

Things that are true at individual level don’t scale to diverse mass societies.

Arguments that assume they should are pretty pointless.

The problem is not guns but giving the wrong kind of person guns, which is an unavoidable consequence of mass gun ownership and the looser the laws the greater the extent to which this will happen.

If a country allows mass access to guns that’s their choice, but they should also accept the consequences honestly.
 

SalixIncendium

अहं ब्रह्मास्मि
Staff member
Premium Member
I own a Smith & Wesson Model 10 that I purchased for home protection back in 2001 when I wasn't unsure if the world was about to go sideways. I bought this model because it's the exact weapon I scored marksman back in the Air Force, I was familiar with it, and I preferred revolvers over semi-autos for reliability.

I fired it a few times at the range, but it's spent most of its time locked in a box (I lost the key years ago). A friend was able to get the box open recently, so I've been considering selling it to the local gun shop.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I had various shotguns and rifles. 16 gauge and .22. Had Bows and arrows.

I would actually love to have a musket though. I find historical firearms fascinating.
 
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