Ella S.
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How do you mean?
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Do you own any guns
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How do you mean?
A gun in the home is many times more likely to be used against someone who lives in the home than against an intruder, so your physical security is actually reduced by keeping a gun.
Ella S.
Well-Known Member
I see.
What? It's true.
There may be values-based justifications for firearm ownership that can't be countered, but any justification based on some idea that guns will make you safer is just factually wrong.
Ella S.
Well-Known Member
According to your misuse of a statistic that oversimplifies the whole picture and your lack of understanding of what goes into a proper security plan, maybe. Unfortunately for you, I am formally educated in mathematical statistics and I'm a certified security professional, so I have a deeper appreciation for the topic.
Your objection is not a rational one. It's a moral one, and it's out of an emotional aversion to guns that I don't share.
If that's what you need to tell yourself, you go right ahead.
Others have mentioned that you must not be a murderous psychopath, but also, you're not suicidal, you haven't given your wife a reason to kill you with it, your children haven't found it and killed themselves or somebody else with it, it hasn't been taken from you during a home invasion and used to kill you, and it hasn't been stolen and used to kill.
That's why they need to be kept separate. Either limit the guns or limit the people.
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Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
What's factually wrong is guns do make people safer.
It's why police and military have them. Same reasons and logic as to why the public needs them.
Your opinions are opinions, not facts.
Yes, that's what I said.
About police: have a look at police suicide and domestic violence stats before you make any conclusions about the full impact of arming them with deadly weapons.
About the military: keeping personal weapons in housing on base is generally (though admittedly not always) a big no-no.
Audie
Veteran Member
It's like a creationist fact. Made up to back a false narrative.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
That's just it. Many view these casualties as an acceptable trade-off. For them it's another take on "freedom ain't free."
It was Big Brother's social surveillance that was the foundational theme of Orwell's 1984.
We Never Know
No Slack
A newer similar version came out twelve years ago called "Person of Interest". It was a pretty good series. I think it had five or six seasons.
But your sense of security is enhanced. The pervasive feeling of threat is reduced, as the gun makes you feel more formidable and prepared for a possible assault..
Opiates might dangerous for the user, but they alleviate anxiety so well...
We Never Know
No Slack
Get real, bub. Everything in life is about trade-offs.
Guns, like cars, planes, electricity, fossil fuels, nuclear
energy, pharmaceuticals, fast food, alcohol, smoking,
...all these great things have benefits that society
deems worth some loss of life. Driving alone causes
around 40,000 deaths/year in USA. You drive, but I
know you oppose children dying in traffic.
The issue isn't your claim that gun owners don't
care if children die. It's what we should do about
owning guns while minimizing wrongful deaths.