Do you think/believe that your body was designed/created?

[Godobeyer]

Which was already an idea which predates Islam by centuries

I have no problem with "Who is first "

As water is required to sustain life as we know it. You can throw all the water you want around but without carbon there is no life. Carbon bonds are basic bonds of life, not water. Again you merely demonstrate your lack of knowledge.

You don't get the point of water important ?
Scienstists always looking for water outside in planets not carbon.

 

[Shad]

I have no problem with "Who is first "

Then merely repeating an existing idea is nothing special nor evidence for the Quran being divine. No more than me repeating E=MC2 is divine.

You don't get the point of water important ?

No as I already pointed out water is required to sustain life as we know it. Hence it is important.

Scienstists always looking for water outside in planets not carbon.

This is because without water life as we know it can not be sustained. Carbon is more abundant than water as carbon is a basic element while water is not. There is no point is looking for carbon as it is already on the type of planets and moons we explore.

 

[Godobeyer]

This is because without water life as we know it can not be sustained. .

Agree.

 

[Shad]

Agree.

Which is different from created from water. Look up the word sustained.

 

[jeager106]

36 pages of posts.
And the beat goes on, and on, and on,....................................

Interesting though ain't it?
I tend to think we humans were created but HOW is unknown to
me.
Irrelevant really and kind of mental masturbation.
After all we are here aren't we?
I more interesting question to me is: "Are we alone in this universe?"

 

[Godobeyer]

Which is different from created from water. Look up the word sustained.

EDITED TO CLEAR:

Water is one of the elements.

Allah did not said ONLY water.

 

[Godobeyer]

36 pages of posts.
And the beat goes on, and on, and on,....................................

Interesting though ain't it?
I tend to think we humans were created but HOW is unknown to
me.
Irrelevant really and kind of mental masturbation.
After all we are here aren't we?
I more interesting question to me is: "Are we alone in this universe?"

No,we are not alone , I made a thread before about this issue, most of voters vote " Yes we are not alone"

 

[Kirran]

It seems the early lifeforms didn't have DNA. RNA would have been what they used. DNA would have been adopted later, either due to its being produced from RNA or due to its presence in the environment.

Water is one of the elements.

No. Water is a compound with the formula H2O. Hydrogen is an element. Oxygen is an element. Water is made up of two hydrogen atoms and an oxygen atom.

 

[Godobeyer]

It seems the early lifeforms didn't have DNA. RNA would have been what they used. DNA would have been adopted later, either due to its being produced from RNA or due to its presence in the environment.

Where is God in this ?
Are you sure that you theist ?

Excuse me, I don't take guess as fact.

No. Water is a compound with the formula H2O. Hydrogen is an element. Oxygen is an element. Water is made up of two hydrogen atoms and an oxygen atom.

You just help out my idea

Water is element in human body, because body is compound from water,and others elements

IF image don't appears please click on link here :

https://malagabay.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/estimated-molecular-content-of-a-human-cell.gif

 

[Kirran]

Where is God in this ?
Are you sure that you theist ?

Excuse me, I don't take guess as fact.

God is everywhere in this. If I describe the makeup of a rock as being X% Silicon, Y% Carbon etc, would it make you start questioning my beliefs?

As for taking guesses as facts, certainly, you shouldn't!

You just help out my idea

Water is element in human body, because body is compound from water,and others elements

IF image don't appears please click on link here :

https://malagabay.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/estimated-molecular-content-of-a-human-cell.gif

Lot of water in a human body, yup. But the stuff which is not water is very important! Like proteins, lipids, metabolites, carbohydrates...

 

[Godobeyer]

The moment of formation of a star? Right, there is no one moment.

The link said they observe the moment of birth of that star.

No, we don't observe the birth of new species by abiogenesis. That is not what abiogenesis is.

Actuatly that what abiogenesis is suppose to be, or it's just stop ?

What are you talking about? Protein is not meat. Proteins (link to Wikipedia) are molecules made of amino acids. Animal tissue ("meat") is composed of proteins (link to another website), lipids, acids, metabolites etc

Is any biology at all taught in schools in Algeria? I'm not trying to be rude, but in schools in this country we know more than this about biology by the time we are about 13 years old.

I was refering to human meat.

 

[Kirran]

The link said they observe the moment of birth of that star.

If you read the article and understand, you'll find that it didn't say that. They observed a star in the process of formation. There is no moment of birth of a star.

Actuatly that what abiogenesis is suppose to be, or it's just stop ?

I don't know what you mean by 'stop'. But abiogenesis is the emergence of what we call life from what we call non-life.

I was refering to human meat.

OK, what difference does that make to anything I said? What is protein, do you know? What is DNA? What is RNA? These are incredibly basic biological questions.

 

[Godobeyer]

God is everywhere in this. If I describe the makeup of a rock as being X% Silicon, Y% Carbon etc, would it make you start questioning my beliefs?

As for taking guesses as facts, certainly, you shouldn't!

Irrelative exemple .

Rock is not complex live as human being.

Lot of water in a human body, yup. But the stuff which is not water is very important! Like proteins, lipids, metabolites, carbohydrates...

Tell that to you body to decrease some water

That's why some people could be vegetarians

 

[Godobeyer]

If you read the article and understand, you'll find that it didn't say that. They observed a star in the process of formation. There is no moment of birth of a star.

Do you activate your dishonesty, or just misunderstood ?
This is what they said:
Scientists have observed in unprecedented detail the birth of a massive star within a dark cloud core about 10,000 light years from Earth.

I don't know what you mean by 'stop'. But abiogenesis is the emergence of what we call life from what we call non-life.

I will made a thread about.

OK, what difference does that make to anything I said? What is protein, do you know? What is DNA? What is RNA? These are incredibly basic biological questions.

My thread is about human body, so I meant human meat "proteint", get it ?

 

[Kirran]

Irrelative exemple .

Rock is not complex live as human being.

True, but you get my point. Describing something that exists is no reason for someone to start declaring apostasy.

Tell that to you body to decrease some water

That's why some people could be vegetarians

That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that a human is mostly composed of water, as is a cabbage and a scorpion, but that other things are important. You can't have a human who is only water.

 

[Kirran]

Do you activate your dishonesty, or just misunderstood ?
This is what they said:
Scientists have observed in unprecedented detail the birth of a massive star within a dark cloud core about 10,000 light years from Earth.

Read the article. Try to understand it. The title is sensationalist.

I will made a thread about.

There's not much point. Abiogenesis is the transition of non-life to life. That's it.

My thread is about human body, so I meant human meat "proteint", get it ?

What on Earth are you talking about? Protein is not at all the same thing as meat, be it animal meat or human meat, which you make a distinction between for some reason. Why do you think protein is meat? Proteins are molecules that go to make up cells and are very important in their function.

But to say protein is meat is like saying towns are bricks. Yes, you need bricks to make a house, which you need to make a town, but that doesn't make them the same. Think of it like this - bricks are proteins, houses are cells, the town is a body, or meat as you say. Is a house made only of bricks? No. Is a cell made only of protein? No.

Again, I ask - do you study any biology in schools in Algeria?

 

[Godobeyer]

True, but you get my point. Describing something that exists is no reason for someone to start declaring apostasy.

That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that a human is mostly composed of water, as is a cabbage and a scorpion, but that other things are important. You can't have a human who is only water.

I said it's one of the body element.
Who said human is only water , or others things are not important ?
human body content more than 70% of water, full stop.

 

[Kirran]

I said it's one of the body element.
Who said human is only water , or others things are not important ?
human body content more than 70% of water, full stop.

Well it isn't an element. But yeah, it's a very major component of the body, no doubt about it. You're 100% correct.

 

[Godobeyer]

Read the article. Try to understand it. The title is sensationalist.

sensation lol

Another sensation source from NASA :
https://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imagegallery/image_feature_1647.html
This new Hubble photo is but a small portion of one of the largest seen star-birth regions in the galaxy, the Carina Nebula. Towers of cool hydrogen laced with dust rise from the wall of the nebula. Reminiscent of Hubble's classic image of the Eagle Nebula dubbed the 'Pillars of Creation' this image is even more striking in appearance. Captured here are the top of a three-light-year-tall pillar of gas and the dust that is being eaten away by the brilliant light from nearby bright stars. The pillar is also being pushed apart from within, as infant stars buried inside it fire off jets of gas that can be seen streaming from towering peaks like arrows sailing through the air.



NASA’s Hubble Finds Evidence of Galaxy Star Birth Regulated by Black-Hole Fountain
Astronomers have uncovered a unique process for how the universe’s largest elliptical galaxies continue making stars long after their peak years of star birth. NASA’s Hubble Space Telescope’s exquisite high resolution and ultraviolet-light sensitivity allowed the astronomers to see brilliant knots of hot, blue stars forming along the jets of active black holes found in the centers of giant elliptical galaxies.


http://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard...y-star-birth-regulated-by-black-hole-fountain

There's not much point. Abiogenesis is the transition of non-life to life. That's it.

That's not my point, I will not tell now.

What on Earth are you talking about? Protein is not at all the same thing as meat, be it animal meat or human meat, which you make a distinction between for some reason. Why do you think protein is meat? Proteins are molecules that go to make up cells and are very important in their function.

But to say protein is meat is like saying towns are bricks. Yes, you need bricks to make a house, which you need to make a town, but that doesn't make them the same. Think of it like this - bricks are proteins, houses are cells, the town is a body, or meat as you say. Is a house made only of bricks? No. Is a cell made only of protein? No.

Again, I ask - do you study any biology in schools in Algeria?

OMG !

Why you speak too much ?

Again and last time :
Cells proteint in human body content DNA.

 

[Kirran]

sensation lol

Another sensation source from NASA :
https://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imagegallery/image_feature_1647.html


NASA’s Hubble Finds Evidence of Galaxy Star Birth Regulated by Black-Hole Fountain
Astronomers have uncovered a unique process for how the universe’s largest elliptical galaxies continue making stars long after their peak years of star birth. NASA’s Hubble Space Telescope’s exquisite high resolution and ultraviolet-light sensitivity allowed the astronomers to see brilliant knots of hot, blue stars forming along the jets of active black holes found in the centers of giant elliptical galaxies.


http://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard...y-star-birth-regulated-by-black-hole-fountain

Yeah, stars are formed. True. But there is no instant of star formation. We have not observed the entire process of star formation. We see things only as they are now, and based on that we figure out how they come to be like that. Same as with biological evolution.

OMG !

Why you speak too much ?

Again and last time :
Cells proteint in human body content DNA.

You still don't seem to understand what protein is.

The majority of cells in the human body contain DNA. All cells in the human body contain protein. Protein does not contain DNA though, and DNA does not contain protein. These are different substances.