Do you think I should?

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an infinite thing can't reside in just a higher realm; otherwise it's limited and not infinite.

god is omnipresent.

this what taweed implies. that god is present. there is no god and something, anything else

No one has direct access to the Creator, but if you witness Ahlulbayt (a) being blessed by the Creator, it's direct light being given to them from God, and so you can induce it's God sustaining them with power, light. blessings, honor, etc... but direct vision to God has always been impossible. We see him through created light that the highest utmost limit is a reality Mohammad (s) and his family (a) are at their core essence.

 

[firedragon]

Brother, I use to read books at chapters as non-Muslim and outright they will claim to be responsible for religions (Jinn and their associates from humans) and they justify layering the religion with falsehoods and that people all have options but at the core is one reality and truth. They want to come up with a plan to show it was them behind all religions but also explain why they lied and deceived, and the truth is now finally to be revealed without layers to humans.

I don't why I left Islam and would read their books, but, I am telling you things I've read.

They are Jinn Worshipers - trust them if you wish.

Err. Others have read a lot of books too. So please be kind enough to not speak about how many books you have read. Its absolutely invalid to an Internet forum.

There are many people who pretend to be experts in everything, but dont have a clue of the basics, and there are some who pretend to be humble sophomores but have more knowledge than we could imagine.

I would advice you to not do that. Its invalid.

 

[Spirit of Light]

So which historical sources were you referring to SZ? You were talking about unbiased historians who said that Islam used the sword to spread the theology.

See, every tom, dick, and harry worth their salt know that its an absolutely false idea propagated by non scholarly, bias sources. But lets see who your so called "unbiased historians are" which you said so generally.

Sorry @Conscious thoughts I got aggravated a bit because of an attempt at bigotry. Apologies.

That's ok @firedragon, you have said thing in this thread that made me learn more
I kind of sitting here thinking that the OP was maybe poorly made by me, but it looks likes some truth in it after all

 

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Err. Others have read a lot of books too. So please be kind enough to not speak about how many books you have read. Its absolutely invalid to an Internet forum.

There are many people who pretend to be experts in everything, but dont have a clue of the basics, and there are some who pretend to be humble sophomores but have more knowledge than we could imagine.

I would advice you to not do that. Its invalid.

If what I say is invalid, so be it. But Mohammad's (s) advice with sorcery and soothsayers is not invalid.

 

[Fool]

No one has direct access to the Creator, but if you witness Ahlulbayt (a) being blessed by the Creator, it's direct light being given to them from God, and so you can induce it's God sustaining them with power, light. blessings, honor, etc... but direct vision to God has always been impossible. We see him through created light that the highest utmost limit is a reality Mohammad (s) and his family (a) are at their core essence.

god sustains all creation with such.

are you serious?

 

[Link]

god sustains all creation with such.

are you serious?

Nope - everyone else receives blessings indirectly through them. Angels bless too but they receive their emanation from the visited house (Ahlulbayt) as well.

At people who don't see Ahlulbayt (a) and chase the world, they are sustained by uncleanness and dark sustenance from Iblis.

 

[firedragon]

If what I say is invalid, so be it. But Mohammad's (s) advice with sorcery and soothsayers is not invalid.

So you really really want a sectarian discussion!!!

 

[Link]

The two type of sustenance is a theme in Quran. One from God through the houses/families he allowed to be exalted and his name remembered in them, such as family of Mohammad, family of Ibrahim, family of Musa and Harun, etc..... the other is always from Iblis and his minions.

The world that is condemned in Quran is because all that we see and hope of it is really Satan. If you see Ahlulbayt (a) and recite Quran, you prefer Quranic sound and light of Ahlulbayt (a) gazing on them, over everything else.

Dunya is a Satanic sorcery created, it's a deception, it's not the physical world, but it's applied to how we see the world (so becomes our reality and it's an illusion).

 

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So you really really want a sectarian discussion!!!

I know you hate me now, but I know it's Iblis magic making you hate my advice, it's oaky, inshallah, in time, you will thank me for this advice and it will swerve as a reminder if things get confusing for you in the future.

 

[Fool]

Nope - everyone else receives blessings indirectly through them. Angels bless too but they receive their emanation from the visited house (Ahlulbayt) as well.

At people who don't see Ahlulbayt (a) and chase the world, they are sustained by uncleanness and dark sustenance from Iblis.

angels are worldly things. may not exist on earth but still they were created.

god created everything, everything was created to serve god's spirit. we were not created to be servants to angels.

angels can fall

you are verging on blasphemy

 

[Link]

angels are worldly things. may not exist on earth but still they were created.

god created everything, everything was created to serve god.

God doesn't need us, but yes to worship God as to know him is the reason but what is the true sustenance from God and what is from evil (Iblis and evil tree of unclean energy), it's clear to me. I think it's clear to you too, but, you don't want to accept Ahlulbayt (a) energy and their Lord.

To each our own religion. The sustenance we believe is from God will make us either go to the darkness or the light.

 

[firedragon]

I know you hate me now, but I know it's Iblis magic making you hate my advice, it's oaky, inshallah, in time, you will thank me for this advice and it will swerve as a reminder if things get confusing for you in the future.

Lol. Iblis magic? Hilarious.

Tell me. What does Shayatheena mean?

 

[Link]

Lol. Iblis magic? Hilarious.

Tell me. What does Shayatheena mean?

Is it funny? Part of the mechanism to mock truth and God's signs (Joker card) -is Iblis causing us to laugh at such serious things, your mockery here is part of the magic and will make you hate me more as I say this, but it will help you and so I know you and a lot of people will not respect me anymore, but I said this stuff to OP and you, because you need to have heard it. The medicine is in, inshallah, it will help you both.

 

[Fool]

God doesn't need us, but yes to worship God as to know him is the reason but what is the true sustenance from God and what is from evil (Iblis and evil tree of unclean energy), it's clear to me. I think it's clear to you too, but, you don't want to accept Ahlulbayt (a) energy and their Lord.

To each our own religion. The sustenance we believe is from God will make us either go to the darkness or the light.

the good/bad tree are one and the same.

the tree of life is service to all as self, as god, as I AM, as Allah.

the tree of evil is service to self, self serving, my religion, me, me, me. follow me, be my servant. using knowledge as power against other's to control, manipulate, subjugate, feed off of them like a wolf. to abuse them for vain glory.

so many have found the Way of Love without a religion being necessary, or some angel. god finds all even those who doesn't know of the coming.

 

[firedragon]

Is it funny? Part of the mechanism to mock truth and God's signs (Joker card) -is Iblis causing us to laugh at such serious things, your mockery here is part of the magic and will make you hate me more as I say this, but it will help you and so I know you and a lot of people will not respect me anymore, but I said this stuff to OP and you, because you need to have heard it. The medicine is in, inshallah, it will help you both.

What does lahab mean?

 

[Link]

Nope, one is going to be tortured exponentially forever and the other blessed exponentially forever, they are not the same but completely different and opposite.

 

[firedragon]

Nope, one is going to be tortured exponentially forever and the other blessed exponentially forever, they are not the same but completely different and opposite.

So basically you dont know anything you are talking about. Why do you pretend to? Is not that against God? To pretend? You call yourself a Muslim who advices other people. Isn't it a shame really?

So that being settled, that you dont know anything about what I asked, do you know what the Quran speaks about "bigotry"?

 

[Fool]

Nope, one is going to be tortured exponentially forever and the other blessed exponentially forever, they are not the same but completely different and opposite.

again if you understand the idea of infinite, forever, forever encompasses all space and time. if god is limited to heaven then there is no hell because god can't be limited to simply heaven because you want to believe in a hell of eternal suffering and dividing god's creation from itself. that would mean god and it's creation are separate and equal.


if god is ONE then nothing else exists except in self-delusion. there is no god and some other. everything arises and falls, including angels, solely on god spirit's maintaining, being it.


god is being, all being.

 

[Link]

What does lahab mean?

The flame.

 

[Link]

So basically you dont know anything you are talking about. Why do you pretend to? Is not that against God? To pretend? You call yourself a Muslim who advices other people. Isn't it a shame really?

So that being settled, that you dont know anything about what I asked, do you know what the Quran speaks about "bigotry"?

That post was not addressed to you dear brother.