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I see a lot of similarities to them being a liberal interpretation of Shia Islam. The laws. The fast. A calendar with 19 months made up of 19 days and 4 days left over to party before the new year begins. I'm sure there's some new stuff in there. I don't think Islam had the equality of men and women. And they have an administrative order that could eventually govern the world.
But in one of those "fables", the Bible, God did speak, do miracles, smite people and cities, carry one of his prophets off into the sky, raised his Son from the dead, had his Son walk and water and heal the blind and lame. But, just because it is written in a book, does that make it true? And the Baha'is don't help. They don't believe most of those things. They say they are not literally true. The stories were meant to be metaphorical. But their stuff that can't be proven, like God and their prophet being sent by God, that is true and not metaphorical.
I don't think you can prove the Christian bible with the Christian bible, that is circular logic at its best.
The Bible, New Testament, KJV.
Why would it be important if it isn't true? A lie is important?
Krishna is mythology. Bhagawat Gita was written by an unknown person perhaps around Jesus' time (may be a few centuries earlier or later). There are interpolations done by people in the following time. The main message is to perform one's duty (even if it involves a war with relatives) unhesitatingly.
If the Go stuff is a lie, then the messenger stuff also is a lie. I would not like to follow a liar. Then the question arises why Bahaollah was lying? It was only to prove himself bigger than the others in spite of being uneducated and good for nothing else. That is what many Hindu gurus do in India as well as outside India. Being a messenger or Mahdi of Allah/God is the easiest cloak to wear.
What is the message? Love, peace, brotherhood. There are 3,000 members in this forum itself who sing this song. How is it exceptional if Bahaollah also said this? Moreover, the message is utopian and not practical. Starting a new religion itself is an act against love, peace and brotherhood.
Nobody has understood anything you have been saying, post after post.
Did I say that the message if love, peace, brotherhood is exceptional?
That is absolutely untrue. Starting a new religion is not an act against love, peace and brotherhood. There is no connection whatsoever.
From the looks of it, that seems to be the case.
Who said anything about miraculous prophecies? The prophecies are not the most important evidence.
Obviously not.
So you have proved a bias by stating that there is a bias.
STRAW MAN... Either that or you are unable to read and comprehend plain English.
Exactly, but Christians do, and Baha'i use their prophet's writings to "prove" theirs. But somehow neither of them thinks it is being circular. I think it's because each believes their writings are true. For the Christians, if the Bible says God spoke from heaven, he did. For the Baha'is, if their writings say their prophet came from God, then it's true. Only problem is... he's the one who wrote the stuff. But that doesn't matter because they believe what he said and wrote is true.
No, that is not correct at all.
Okay, if the Baha'i Faith is true, it is the most important message we have right now. But... if it's not true, it's still important. But I said for the wrong reasons. Because then, it would be a lie. It would be a false religion claiming the promised one had come, but he hasn't. I think there is still a chance the Christian interpretation could be right, and Jesus hasn't come yet. If that is true, then what was the Baha'i Faith?
Not quite. I know what the true God is because Baha'u'llah explained that in His Writings.
Yes, that is what happened. My parents were not religious and I was raised as a nonbeliever. I never thought about God or religion until my first year of college when I stumbled upon the Baha'i Faith. I investigated the Baha'i Faith and I was convinced that it was true. That happened 51 years ago.
I hear ya, and I agree. However, I'm a Satanist and if another satanist told me Satan spoke to them from hell I'd be the first to call BS.
Do you mean only you have comprehension skills? My purpose always is to stick to truth and try to point superstitions and falsehood. I understand very clearly what you say. But I do not buy things based just on advertising blurbs.
Prophecies are not important neither is the vision of the heavenly maiden. But all of you (Bahais) claim them as important - fulfilling all the prophecies in all the religions. I consider prophecies as total farce (and am not alone to do that). Anyone who talks of prophecies, is either lying and fooling others, or the person him/herself is superstitious and ignorant.
But did not Bahaollah get his messages from his Allah? Or was he concocting them on his own?