Does an Atheist Know God?

[Fool]

Now you are bypassing the question.

You said you start from home. To me, home means family.

Do you keep what you have and let your family die or do you give what you value for your family to survive?

Yes or no.

I am making it simple. No strings attached.

so a man's wife is not his family because they are not blood? an adopted child is not family because they are not related by blood? the son of man isn't humanity?

what is family if the person is unfriendly. how do you like those who don't do the will of Love? blood is everything eh?

very, very telling

 

[psychoslice]

then you will be looking...down?

Down is up, it all depends what you label as down and up, in fact there is no such thing as down and up in space.

 

[Fool]

motivation counts for something

as you stand before heaven....
your motivations cannot be hidden

so if heaven can see why you do things
can you be trusted with anything greater?

trust in Love. God above all things, below all things, within all things

 

[Thief]

Down is up, it all depends what you label as down and up, in fact there is no such thing as down and up in space.

circumventing the obvious discussion won't help

 

[psychoslice]

circumventing the obvious discussion won't help

So does your belief doesn't help.

 

[Thief]

trust in Love. God above all things, below all things, within all things

and now .....you might be willing to demonstrate the extent of
true love

 

[Unveiled Artist]

so a man's wife is not his family because they are not blood? an adopted child is not family because they are not related by blood? the son of man isn't humanity?

what is family if the person is unfriendly. how do you like those who don't do the will of Love? blood is everything eh?

very, very telling

I do not know if you are not understanding what I say or if English is your second language (no insult).

Do you give X to a family member if they need X more than you?

Yes or no.

 

[Fool]

and now .....you might be willing to demonstrate the extent of
true love

the universe of impermanent forms from the same energy, Spirit of Love

 

[Unveiled Artist]

@Fool

Do you give to those in need?

Can't make it more simpler than that.

 

[Fool]

I do not know if you are not understanding what I say or if English is your second language (no insult).

Do you give X to a family member if they need X more than you?

Yes or no.

I give to all as One. he who does the will of Love is my family.


blood relations can be one's enemy. blood means nothing, forms count for nothing, relationships are meaningless, if they do not do the will of Love.

your enemies are the members of your own household

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I give to all as One.

Do you physically give or is this an analogy?

 

[Fool]

@Fool

Do you give to those in need?

Can't make it more simpler than that.

charity isn't exclusive to christianity. love isn't exclusive to any belief system. I give to many.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

charity isn't exclusive to christianity. love isn't exclusive to any belief system. I give to many.

Do you give physically or is it an analogy?

 

[Fool]

Do you physically give or is this an analogy?

i'm giving everytime you inquire. You choose to reject the hidden manna. Man doesn't live by bread alone but by love.

research has shown that infants can't live on nourishment, being kept clean alone. they require physical touch, or affection. Love, charity, comes in many varied forms

 

[Unveiled Artist]

i'm giving everytime you inquire. You choose to reject the hidden manna. Man doesn't live by bread alone but by love.

research has shown that infants can't live on nourishment, being kept clean alone. they require physical touch, or affection. Love, charity, comes in many varied forms

What do you actually give? Give an example (no pun).

 

[Fool]

What do you actually give? Give an example (no pun).

Money, time, hugs, kisses, listening, clothes, food, smiles, correction

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Money, time, hugs, kisses, listening, clothes, food, smiles, correction

There ya go. These are sacrifices.

Call it what ever you want. Names (forms) are irrelevant (right?). It's just the meaning and intent behind them.

Nothing to do with idols and you're not dying for someone else. You are just giving. That's a form of sacrifice.

 

[Fool]

There ya go. These are sacrifices.

Call it what ever you want. Names (forms) are irrelevant (right?). It's just the meaning and intent behind them.

Nothing to do with idols and you're not dying for someone else. You are just giving. That's a form of sacrifice.

loving someone is a sacrifice for you?
so giving up selfish motives is a sacrifice for you?

feeding someone is a sacrifice for you? clothing someone who is cold is a sacrifice for you?
not being negative, hostile, and indifferent to someone's need is a sacrifice?

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Hmm?

loving someone is a sacrifice for you?

Yep. I give my love that I could keep for myself but instead, I give it also to those in need of it say in a hug or a good conversation. I sacrifice my time, my energy, and gave them my interest and unconditional love. To many here who do that is a great sacrifice because everyone works here.

so giving up selfish motives is a sacrifice for you?

Of course. So if I had a selfish motive say to keep all the money for myself and let my family starve, I'd be heartbroken. So I sacrifice my money to give to my family in need so we are all well met in finances.

feeding someone is a sacrifice for you? clothing someone who is cold is a sacrifice for you?

Of course. I give clothing I don't need to good will a lot. But sacrifice is more giving to those who need something more than you would need it. I need money but I know someone who has no job would need it more than me. Knowing my experiences around homelessness and abuse, I'd give them my last dollar as it is not my life to hold on to a dollar. I can't eat dollar bills. Nowadays, it's an insult to give someone whose homeless a dollar because everything costs so much that he/she can't get what they want because of taxes.

not being negative, hostile, and indifferent to someone's need is a sacrifice?

That is the point of someone sacrificing something is because they need it.

We don't sacrifice because we want to. We don't just willy nilly hand off clothing we may need for the winter season to any old person. Sacrifice usually are to those who need clothing and other things of value more than the person giving the item.

Sacrifice is a form of giving. You're not keeping whatever you have for yourself but giving it to someone else who may or may not need it more than you. It's charity.

It's that hug. That money. That kiss. That food. You talked about.

You can call it charity. I call it thanksgiving or gratitude.

In the beginning of this post, you quoted scripture. In Christianity, they consider it sacrifice. That's my point.

 

[psychoslice]

Sadly the religious seem to need a god to make their life happy, someone to worship and make them feel good, where as the so called atheist don't need anyone or anything to make them happy, they are simply happy. they don't need a god in the sky, or a suicidal Messiah to make them feel life is worth while, to believe that you need someone in your life to make you happy is nothing more than a parasite, life is enough, if you need more than that, then you simply don't know how to live your life....................very sad indeed.