Does Atheism Lead to Immoral Behavior?

[Audie]

..right .. just like your accusation of my "hate-speech" against women..

More like contempt than hate.
Neither is exactly charming.

 

[muhammad_isa]

I'd say your views on women are chauvinistic in nature.

..so you make "hate-speech" against Abrahamic religion..
..because woman and men have different social status.
One is not superior to the other .. just different.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

..right .. just like your accusation of my "hate-speech" against women..

I can back @SkepticThinker up and personally attest to the fact about what you've said about women (wives in particular) in your previous posts.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

I'd say your views on women are chauvinistic in nature.

I agree.

I'd use much stronger words

My sentiments exactly. I've previously expressed my disgust in this thread as well.

Does Atheism Lead to Immoral Behavior?

So you can’t answer the question. But you know for sure what didn’t cause it. In the absence of any other plausible explanation, to adamantly discard the Noachian Deluge out of hand as an explanation (on top of all the other evidences supporting it), and attempt to belittle those who do...

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Does Atheism Lead to Immoral Behavior?

What if it was? It makes no sense, in any case. A woman spanking a man? What would that achieve? ..silly suggestion from an atheist .. the Qur'an speaks truth .. you suggest absurdities. Brave new world .. one in which women are in charge, and the men are all imprisoned. I am not an atheist...

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Does Atheism Lead to Immoral Behavior?

I'm sure you don't care about the Bible or the Qur'an.. There are plenty of women who do, and they don't need your sympathy. I would disagree. Anyone who follows them needs my sympathy and help to get out of such a system.

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Almost like some of that irony, for a "God"- believer to complain of someone assuming facts not in evidence. :: WINNER ::

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[Sgt. Pepper]

This is like two posts in a row here, where you basically equate atheists with pedophiles, while completely ignoring the poster's point and displaying the exact behaviour said poster accused you of, all while proclaiming that you're just being "truthful" with your use of hate speech.

I've read just about as much as I can take, I think.

Some of the most hateful and prejudiced people I've ever met are Christians, and the majority of them are evangelicals. Most of them are cunning, hiding their hatred and religious intolerance behind the pretense of "speaking God's truth" and "spreading the gospel." Some, on the other hand, don't bother to hide their true colors while preaching about "God's love" and how they "hate the sin but love the sinner." Yes, there are some Christians who do practice what they preach, but I think they are the exception, not the rule. To be honest, I'd despise Christians if it weren't for the very few I know who walk the walk.

 

[Zwing]

Im so glad my government keeps Christians
and moslems from spreading their beliefs
here..

What country?

 

[IndigoChild5559]

..right .. just like your accusation of my "hate-speech" against women..

You have a long history of saying misogynistic things about women. Your reputation is already set.

 

[Audie]

Some of the most hateful and prejudiced people I've ever met are Christians, and the majority of them are evangelicals. Most of them are cunning, hiding their hatred and religious intolerance behind the pretense of "speaking God's truth" and "spreading the gospel." Some, on the other hand, don't bother to hide their true colors while preaching about "God's love" and how they "hate the sin but love the sinner." Yes, there are some Christians who do practice what they preach, but I think they are the exception, not the rule. To be honest, I'd despise Christians if it weren't for the very few I know who walk the walk.

The more I see on rf the more I agree with the above.

 

[muhammad_isa]

You have a long history of saying misogynistic things about women. Your reputation is already set.

It seems to me that it is all about authority.
Women despising men, and refusing to obey them,,
Men despising their bosses and leaders etc. etc.

Society turns away from G-d at its peril.

 

[Nakosis]

Contingent on that methodological naturalism is correct, off course. If that is wrong, then science is wrong.
You really have to learn the difference between that one and philosophical naturalism.

Not going to persuade me with philosophy.
Hard for me to see philosophy as anything but mental masturbation.

Whatever chemical stimulation you get from philosophy I don't have the genetics for.
That be funny though, the difference in ideological positions coming down to a difference in genetics.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

It seems that women in the US in particular, have very strong views
on "how women should be treated"..

How awful it is for a woman to have mind of her own and actually think for herself without an arrogant, misogynistic man telling her what to think, what to say, and how to behave. Now why would a woman never want to be under the thumb of a man and be his doormat? How dare she think for herself.

And yes, I am being sarcastic on purpose.

We all have our culture, I suppose .. but don't expect me to like that aspect..
..because I don't.

Don't fret, because that's not what we (those of us who interact with you and staunchly disagree with you) expect from you.

It seems to me that it is all about authority.

It has less to do with authority and more to do with standing up and speaking out against religious misogynistic bigotry and sexism.

Women despising men, and refusing to obey them,,

Case in point.

Men despising their bosses and leaders etc. etc.

Respect is earned, not commanded.

..and of course .. the authority of God? Hmmm.

Now it's perfectly clear where all of this sexism, bigotry, misogyny, and the rest of the patriarchal, male-chauvinist bull comes from.

It all comes from the Bible and the Quran, which both teach toxic masculinity and sexism towards women.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

It seems to me that it is all about authority.
Women despising men, and refusing to obey them,,

Is this about spousal rape again?

 

[muhammad_isa]

It all comes from the Bible and the Quran, which both teach toxic masculinity and sexism towards women.

I think that the concept of "respect" is lost on some people..
They seem to think that they only have to respect people "if they've earnt it".

By that token, we should all go around disrespecting each other, until
proved that they deserve it.

..no more "Ladies and Gentlemen" .. more like a bunch of animals!

 

[muhammad_isa]

Is this about spousal rape again?

It can't be..
..because it is apparently not "politically correct" to discuss.
..for similar reasons to marriage of same sex.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

It seems to me that it is all about authority.
Women despising men, and refusing to obey them,,
Men despising their bosses and leaders etc. etc.

Society turns away from G-d at its peril.

There is no reason for women to obey men, other than the fact that men, by virtue of being physically stronger, can bully us with brute force.

I don't despise men. I think men are WONDERFUL. But no, I'm not going to obey a man as if he is somehow over me. I am an adult, not a child.

Your post above is just another one in a long long line of misogynistic posts.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

There is no reason for women to obey men, other than the fact that men, by virtue of being physically stronger, can bully us with brute force.

I don't despise men. I think men are WONDERFUL. But no, I'm not going to obey a man as if he is somehow over me. I am an adult, not a child.

Your post above is just another one in a long long line of misogynistic posts.

Winner frubal.

 

[muhammad_isa]

But no, I'm not going to obey a man as if he is somehow over me...

It's your loss .. rebellion against God and husband, cannot bring success and contentment.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

It's your loss .. rebellion against God and husband, cannot bring success and contentment.

You're equating rebellion against you with rebellion against God?

I thought idolatry was forbidden in Islam.

 

[muhammad_isa]

You're equating rebellion against you with rebellion against God?

It is nothing to do with me .. it is not a personal comment.
It is a general comment about women who disrespect their husband's wishes..
That is against what God has taught us in the Bible and Qur'an.

We turn away from God at our peril.
The plight of you or I does NOT change anything.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

It's your loss .. rebellion against God and husband, cannot bring success and contentment.

But the thing is, I am highly content.