Trailblazer
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No, there is no evidence that God will fix anything at all and that belief comes from a gross misinterpretation of scripture, gross.
Show me even one Bible verse that says that God is going to fix anything.
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Does Atheism Lead to Immoral Behavior?
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Show me even one Bible verse that says that God is going to fix anything.
Subduction Zone
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Yes, and that is where we are stuck if we do not move on to trying to solve the problems rather than doling out just punishment. For most people that break the law education and treatment are apt to work better and cost less in the long run. Put them in prison for years on end may make a person with a victim mentality happier, but it does little to solve the problems.
Brian2
Veteran Member
There are many places in the Bible where God says He will fix (restore) things.
40 Bible Verses About Restoration
Seeking hope and renewal? Explore 40 powerful Bible verses about restoration, offering spiritual rejuvenation and God's promise of healing.
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This one is a good promise from God:
Acts 3:21 – Restoration of All Things
"whom heaven must receive until the time for restoring all the things about which God spoke by the mouth of his holy prophets long ago."This verse speaks of when everything will be restored as God has promised, highlighting a future of complete renewal and perfection.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
Restoring things is not the same as fixing things that are wrong on this earth, which is what I was referring to.There are many places in the Bible where God says He will fix (restore) things.
40 Bible Verses About Restoration
Seeking hope and renewal? Explore 40 powerful Bible verses about restoration, offering spiritual rejuvenation and God's promise of healing.
This one is a good promise from God:
Acts 3:21 – Restoration of All Things
"whom heaven must receive until the time for restoring all the things about which God spoke by the mouth of his holy prophets long ago."
This verse speaks of when everything will be restored as God has promised, highlighting a future of complete renewal and perfection.
God did restore all things when He sent Baha'u'llah to restore all things, highlighting a future of complete renewal and perfection.
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
How do you know I'm not doing that? What are you doing to make the world less violent?
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Do you look forward to that complete renewal?
You consider ecological collapse "complete renewal?"
And if we manage it, as usual we'll find that God doesn't need to get involved. Oh, perhaps he'll be waiting just in case he was needed, but as we solve our issues and he doesn't need to help, I guess we'll never know.
Don't be bloody daft. When a child dies of cancer, it is not because "someone wants it to happen."
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
It happens. One day the Bible says no one will get sick.
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
That is not foretold. But things are foretold to get worse before God intervenes when it is His time. Only God can really solve mankind's problems.
Yeah, well the Bible says that Balaam's *** spoke Aramaic -- I take that with a shaker of salt, too.
And the Silmarillion says that elves go to Valinor when they die........
Equal evidence, both claims.
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
That's your opinion, not mine. I believe what the Bible says. That one day there will be no more sickness, and there will be peace on the earth.And the Silmarillion says that elves go to Valinor when they die........
Equal evidence, both claims.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
I am glad it is coming, but given my age and long it is going to take, I don't expect to see it within my lifetime.
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
I personally don't know what the true God has in store for everyone alive or who has been alive. Hopefully you will see what the future brings in your present lifetime or -- if you are resurrected.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
No, God does not need to get involved. God does not get involved in matters down here on earth.
The only involvement God has with humans is when He sends Messengers to guide us.
And as I've pointed out so often, that works so badly that it were better He didn't bother!
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
Granted, to date it has not worked very well, but that doesn't mean it never will...
The reason it is not working very well now is because most people have rejected the new Messenger in favor of the older Messengers.
Can't blame God for that.
But you see, I think I can (blame God for that)! You yourself have agreed that God has sent previous "messengers," and every time, the "new messenger" is rejected by believers in the one(s) that came before. Why are there still Jews if Jesus were accepted by everyone? Why are there still Christians if Muhammad were accepted by everyone, and the same surely goes for why there are still Muslims if everyone accepts Baha'u'llah? And the pattern suggests there'll be another one -- and possibly there have been many others accepted by just a few, like Joseph Smith and David Koresh and likely many others.
I mean, if He's God, you'd think he'd have figured out the pattern by now! The definition of madness is doing the same thing over and over again, hoping for a different outcome!