Colt
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For me there was never a time that God wasn't obvious to me. Even in sporadic church attendance wherein I didn't believe the exaggerated portions of the scripture books, I still knew the presence of God.
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Does Atheism Lead to Immoral Behavior?
- Thread starter Nakosis
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Because of the way power exists in prisons, it is convenient for a prisoner to convert to Christianity just to be seen as favorable to the guards.
So, I am always a bit skeptical of this type of statistic.
What is more convincing is the correlation between geography (Bible belt or not) and a variety of social ills from unplanned pregnancies, to crime rates, to other major social ills. That suggests that it is the culture that promotes many of these problems.
When I was very young, I trusted the adults when they said there is a God. But, when I prayed myself, I never felt anything other than myself. That lead to skepticism. Watching the hypocrisy of believers, the unbelievable stories in the Bible (even as a kid I didn't believe them), the judgemental attitudes, I realized the 'believers' were not a good group of people.
I don't think I ever believed in God after I was 6 years old. There was simply no evidence and everything I saw pointed the opposite way.
I remember being shocked when I realized that people actually *believed* the stories. I thought of them as nice morality tales similar to Aesop's fables.
Colt
Well-Known Member
I know the spaghetti monster God was invented to mock believers. I also know that there is a similar motive among Atheist who join "religious forums", to undermine faith, mock and condescend people of faith.
Audie
Veteran Member
The righteous are righteous because they are righteous.That's absolute nonsense.
The righteous believe in G-d, because they ARE good persons.
Terrif.
You must feel so good about yourself
No, it was invented to point out the bad arguments theists use all the time. ALL the arguments for a God also apply to the FSM.
And yes, I believe that God was also an invented fiction, but invented to control people.
muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
There are always exceptions .. proves nothing.
..and that depends of your definition of "good" .
Believers are guilty of bad deeds, yes .. but again, that proves nothing.
Audie
Veteran Member
So the righteous and holy think they raise“Immoral behavior” as in “sexual promiscuity”?
I would think so.. Why would they restrain themselves? “Two consenting adults, there’s nothing wrong”….right?
Now if you mean “immoral behavior” to be thievery, murder, etc., no.
Atheists, like any humans, have a conscience, and thievery, murder, etc., are viewed as aberrant
behaviors in almost any society.
So let’s get back to sexual unrestraint: quite a few people, atheists and otherwise, are recognizing the negative effect that promiscuity is having on their respective societies.
There are many articles, quite a few of them peer-reviewed scientific articles, highlighting the problems that arise from such promiscuous lifestyles:
Sexual promiscuity: knowledge of dangers in institutions of higher learning - PubMed
Knowledge of dangers of sexual promiscuity was assessed in 2 institutions of higher learning. The objectives were to find out the knowledge of medical and social consequences as well as the factors responsible for sexual promiscuity among Nigerian youths. The study also assessed the...pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
How Casual Sex Can Affect Our Mental Health
A recent large-scale national study shows that casual sex can have unintended emotional consequences that persist long after the one-night stand has ended.www.psychologytoday.com
Effects of human sexual promiscuity - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
There are soo many more! Google it.
The Bible has condemned those practices for centuries…..
It is actually a good argument supporting the Bible as being from a Higher Source. — Jeremiah 10:23… “O Jehovah, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.”
What does Jehovah ask us to do?
Isaiah 48:18….”Oh, if only you would pay attention to My commandments! Then your peace would become just like a river…”
themselves with put- downs of others.
We already knew that, no need to elabourate.
muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
You confuse God with religion.
Almighty God is BEYOND need to control people [if He exists].
..and if that was God's intention, He would be doing a very poor job!
You knew even before anyone told you about "God".
Colt
Well-Known Member
Trying to reason people out of a position that they weren't reasoning into is a waste of time.
Atheism as you are practicing it here in this exchange is an attempt to control people.
Audie
Veteran Member
It does show that god- believin' doesn't do a whole lot
to affect morality.
Colt
Well-Known Member
Thats correct, the concept of God gave me a term to use for that which I was already aware of.
Audie
Veteran Member
No fair asking for Believers to make sense.
It does prove that religion doesn't make all people good.
Nor that only good people believe in religion.
I see things very simply....
People are good when they do good things instead of bad.
Bad people do bad things.
Whatever people believe about gods, fairies, spirits, devils,
angels, witches, prophets, books, & ghosts is irrelevant.
I never experienced that.
Audie
Veteran Member
How can you claim- honestlyy-to know what "god" " needs" or
does not need?
There's no credibility in the way you guys just say thungs.
Fundamentally, religion is all about human feelings.
Those make some sense, eg, fear of death, fear of
calamity, wonder about why reality is what it is.
They invent explanations that comfort.
But the leap to belief in very specific dogma is what
makes no sense, eg, 10,000 year old Earth, stoning
adulterers, the immorality of eating pork, making
women wear bags over their heads.
And often what religion does do is very bad,
eg, The Crusades, violent jihads, honor killings,
violent conquest (Zionism, Manifest Destiny),
slavery.
Audie
Veteran Member
Nobody did