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Does belief in God prevent people from killing?

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
'God ordered children to be killed because it is a way to save them, if he takes them while they are kids, they don't have to pass judgement. they are automatically heirs to the kingdom of God.
what is sick the statement above, specially with the one underlined? kindly elaborate in so that i might be enlighted.
if you mix a virgin girl in a school where sex with anybody is normal and having syphillis is cool... what do you think happens?
mix spoiled meat with fresh ones ... what do you think happens?
and oh, what does one rotten tomato do with one whole basket?

Dude, seriously, don't even try to justify murdering children in cold blood to me. It's sick and creepy and doesn't reflect well on your belief system. For their sake, stay away from kids.
 

camanintx

Well-Known Member
'God ordered children to be killed because it is a way to save them, if he takes them while they are kids, they don't have to pass judgement. they are automatically heirs to the kingdom of God.


what is sick the statement above, specially with the one underlined? kindly elaborate in so that i might be enlighted.

This sounds like the defense argument Andrea Yates used.
 

uss_bigd

Well-Known Member
gee....

we are going in circles in here. but yet no one has explained why instant salvation for children is evil.

is eternal life with no hunger and thirst evil? i think this question is worthy of a new thread...
 

uss_bigd

Well-Known Member
There is no god, so killing children is simply murder.


uhuh? ok, so you are saying that God's order to Joshua was evil. and the God that said that does not exist.

which means ... the evil that you are refering to does not exists as well.

simply put. a command of an imaginary person will mean imaginary results and imaginary interpretations.

which means, your interpretation is imaginary....hahahahaha!
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
Do i endorse pure evil? tsk tsk tsk.
Well I guess that depends on whether you consider baby-murdering to be evil. I do.

I explained the rationale for God's commandment to joshua in a previous post. if you find that evil, you are beyond help!
Yeah, you're right. I will never either believe in or worship a mythical war-God. I'm beyond help.
Since, you cannot destroy the reasoning behind it, you turn to personal attacks.
Just the facts. What do you call people who think murdering babies is fine?

i say your mind is closed because you will not consider anything else besides what your limited experience and understanding will tell you.
How would you know? I'm happy to consider any facts, logic, or evidence that you have. Bring it forth.

an open mind is open to basis. if you dont beleive in my basis, then we cannot argue in the same context.
Sorry, this sentence doesn't scan. Try it again in English.
you refuse to understand a good rationale. and i can't call you what fits you.
Disagreement does not mean lack of understanding. I don't accept that killing babies is a good thing, and you're purported rationale is insufficient. Do you have a baby, btw?

but you are allowed to call me an endorser of pure evil.
If the shoe fits. What do you call genocide and infanticide? I call them evil.

hats just how it is... those in darkness hates the light becaue their deeds are evil as it states in the book of romans.
Well, if by "evil" you mean "moral" and by "good" you mean "baby-slaughtering."
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
How hard have you since you really seem to know nothing about it. Catholic do follow the Bible, The Catholic Bible, not theProtestant Bible. But still the Bible, it says Bible right on it too.
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for your information, the bible states that bowing to idols is an abomination. what do you see on cathlic churches? i guess you have not read that verse huh?





sigh!

Leviticus 19:4
" 'Do not turn to idols or make gods of cast metal for yourselves. I am the LORD your God.

am i anti catholic? i didnt write the bible.

Well, that Bible commands you not to make an image of anything on earth or in heaven, but Protestant Churches are full of them, so be wary of throwing stones lest ye break your stained glass window.
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
gee....

we are going in circles in here. but yet no one has explained why instant salvation for children is evil.

is eternal life with no hunger and thirst evil? i think this question is worthy of a new thread...

Well, if we have to explain why ordering a soldier to run a newborn baby through with his sword is evil, then we have some work to do here. Do you by chance have any children? How would you feel if I ordered one of my soldiers to stab her to death? Does that help you grasp the concept at all?
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
uhuh? ok, so you are saying that God's order to Joshua was evil. and the God that said that does not exist.
Right, there is no God to make this order. If any of these events occurred, then Joshua was either evil or deluded, like Andrea Yates.

which means ... the evil that you are refering to does not exists as well.
Well, chances are none of this ever happened. But evil may also be portrayed in fiction.

simply put. a command of an imaginary person will mean imaginary results and imaginary interpretations.
Alas, no. Ask any of the survivors of the 9/11 attack. An imaginary person's imaginary commands can result in very real evil.

which means, your interpretation is imaginary....hahahahaha!
Sorry, I don't find child-murder funny.
 

uss_bigd

Well-Known Member
Right, there is no God to make this order. If any of these events occurred, then Joshua was either evil or deluded, like Andrea Yates.

Well, chances are none of this ever happened. But evil may also be portrayed in fiction.

Alas, no. Ask any of the survivors of the 9/11 attack. An imaginary person's imaginary commands can result in very real evil.

Sorry, I don't find child-murder funny.


You have not answered why Eternal life with no hunger and thirst is evil.
or at least the idea of it.

do you honestly think that the 'IDEA" of eternal life with no hunger or thirst is evil?

i think you are malisciously seperating the asnwer and the rationale of my answer. and that is evil. you see evil in good things because on your own you malisciously seperate my answer and my reason for my answer.

who is evil now?
 

uss_bigd

Well-Known Member
Well, if we have to explain why ordering a soldier to run a newborn baby through with his sword is evil, then we have some work to do here. Do you by chance have any children? How would you feel if I ordered one of my soldiers to stab her to death? Does that help you grasp the concept at all?


i will answer your question after you answer mine. be fair.
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
You have not answered why Eternal life with no hunger and thirst is evil.
You have not established that there is any such thing.
or at least the idea of it.

do you honestly think that the 'IDEA" of eternal life with no hunger or thirst is evil?
Right, I've got you. Murder is good, because you get to heaven faster. May I kill you now--purely as a favor to you?

i think you are malisciously seperating the asnwer and the rationale of my answer. and that is evil. you see evil in good things because on your own you malisciously seperate my answer and my reason for my answer.
sorry, I have no idea what you're talking about, and I doubt that anyone else here does either.

who is evil now?
Hey, I'm not advocating for baby-murder.

Whatever your sick, myth-based rationale is, the bottom line is, you are trying to justify ordering soldiers to stab little babies to death. And that's only the beginning of the atrocities you are in favor of, like kidnapping virgins and giving some of them to God, or forced marriage, or slavery--all very Biblical, and all, I'm sure, good according to you, for that reason.

So, as I was saying, do you have a baby you would like to have stabbed to death? That lovely eternal life without hunger or thirst awaits her--according to you.
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
Let's try to start over and be clear from the beginning, uss, as your denials, retractions and evasions have confused the issue. Here is a typical Biblical commandment to commit atrocities, such as the Old Testament (OT) is full of:

However, in the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes.
Deuteronomy 20:16

As you can see, God commands his soldiers that when he gives them land, they should kill everyone in it, every man, woman, and child, without exception--what we call today genocide. Now, is it your position that following this commandment from God would be moral and righteous?
 

gnostic

The Lost One
I don't think we are getting anywhere with this.

Either someone answer all the questions, or find another topic to haunt.
 

camanintx

Well-Known Member
uhuh? ok, so you are saying that God's order to Joshua was evil. and the God that said that does not exist.

which means ... the evil that you are refering to does not exists as well.

simply put. a command of an imaginary person will mean imaginary results and imaginary interpretations.

which means, your interpretation is imaginary....hahahahaha!

Try telling Rusty Yates that he only imagined that his wife killed their children. :slap:
 
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