Does belief in God prevent people from killing?

[Autodidact]

The real purpose of your heart now has surfaced. you never intended to reason out with anyone. all you wanted to do was "help your side"

most people have common sense.

Well, it depends on whether the person I'm talking with is able to reason or not.
Now please explain once again why it's just and righteous to kill a whole lot of newborn babies, just because you don't like the policies of their king? Because I missed it.
Fortunately, most people have common sense, and so understand that killing babies is immoral, regardless of the "rationale."
Of course, most people are not Christian, either, so they're not forced to assert that killing babies is righteous.

 

[yossarian22]

Well, it depends on whether the person I'm talking with is able to reason or not.
Now please explain once again why it's just and righteous to kill a whole lot of newborn babies, just because you don't like the policies of their king? Because I missed it.
Fortunately, most people have common sense, and so understand that killing babies is immoral, regardless of the "rationale."
Of course, most people are not Christian, either, so they're not forced to assert that killing babies is righteous.

Fix your bloody quotes next time.

 

[Magic Man]

And what in these passages justified murdering innocent babies?

murdering babies? well there i nothing i can do if your thinking can reach just that far. it is not your fault





yes, i do have a baby. and if he dies as a child, in which ever way. I will thank my creator for it. because i know he woldnt have to grow up and meet people like you.

He will surely go to a good place, no more thirst, no more hunger, no envy, no more strife, no more pain.

oh, why am i explaining? i forgot that you can only understand so much. well let this go out to those who can know better.

Wow. I disagree with most of what you say in general, but this is just scary.

 

[kiwimac]

As the Exodus story is entirely a myth, I fail to see why the details of it are any more important that Grimm's Fairy Tales.

 

[uss_bigd]

Wow. I disagree with most of what you say in general, but this is just scary.

for those people with common sense, mball find the concept below "scary"

a good place, no more thirst, no more hunger, no envy, no more strife, no more pain.


gee, whose scary now?

I think you prefer that place where "they will seek death and will not find it"

good luck mball!!

 

[Father Heathen]

If that's what you truly believe, what is stopping you from killing your own family and then yourself? Are you an admirer of Jim Jones? Get your head checked.

 

[uss_bigd]

If that's what you truly believe, what is stopping you from killing your own family and then yourself? Get your head checked.

I was on the assumption that if God will them to die. my point is God owns life. he can take it anytime however he wants. that is the point sir.

 

[Father Heathen]

If god created lives only for them to be deliberately and gruesomely slaughtered shortly thereafter, why bother creating them in the first place? Sounds pretty petty and malicious to me.

 

[gnostic]

If you think that God is the boss and owned the world, then he is also ultimately responsible for the death of children, either through the Flood and through the genocides.

 

[camanintx]

I was on the assumption that if God will them to die. my point is God owns life. he can take it anytime however he wants. that is the point sir.

So how can you find any fault with the actions of Andrea Yates, Deanna Laney or Dena Schlosser? After all, they were just sending their children to a better place as you put it.

 

[Magic Man]

for those people with common sense, mball find the concept below "scary"

a good place, no more thirst, no more hunger, no envy, no more strife, no more pain.


gee, whose scary now?

I think you prefer that place where "they will seek death and will not find it"

good luck mball!!

I know that you already know this is wrong, and are just refusing to admit it, but I'll answer anyway. It's not that place that I find scary. It's the idea that you would thank anyone, even God for killing your baby. I just feel sorry for your child/children. I know I would want more love and support than that.

 

[Autodidact]

As the Exodus story is entirely a myth, I fail to see why the details of it are any more important that Grimm's Fairy Tales.

Because the myths that people believe often affect their actions. For example, the people who flew airplanes into the World Trade Towers did so in part because of what myths they believed.

 

[Autodidact]

I was on the assumption that if God will them to die. my point is God owns life. he can take it anytime however he wants. that is the point sir.

Please, keep talking. You're doing great. Is there any other pro-infanticide point you would like to make?

 

[uss_bigd]

I know that you already know this is wrong, and are just refusing to admit it, but I'll answer anyway. It's not that place that I find scary. It's the idea that you would thank anyone, even God for killing your baby. I just feel sorry for your child/children. I know I would want more love and support than that.

and what was my reason again mball?

 

[Autodidact]

and what was my reason again mball?

So (s)he would never have to grow up and meet people like me, was the reason you gave us.

 

[uss_bigd]

So (s)he would never have to grow up and meet people like me, was the reason you gave us.

I said i would be comfortable if God took my child in so that he wouldn't have to meet peole like you.
I further argued that, since children are automatic heirs to the kingdom of God, i will be thankfull to my creator, which no one has ever aknowledged.

if you do not beleive in the greater good that i mentioned, then do not make yourselves seem like hard of understanding just because you want to "help your side."


besides. all of us will die anyway. I don't care how i die, i just pray i am taken at time when u can be considered worthy of a life of no thirst and no strife.

if you do not want such a thing, it is your right to choose. but please do not make your selves look bad.

 

[Magic Man]

I said i would be comfortable if God took my child in so that he wouldn't have to meet peole like you.
I further argued that, since children are automatic heirs to the kingdom of God, i will be thankfull to my creator, which no one has ever aknowledged.

if you do not beleive in the greater good that i mentioned, then do not make yourselves seem like hard of understanding just because you want to "help your side."


besides. all of us will die anyway. I don't care how i die, i just pray i am taken at time when u can be considered worthy of a life of no thirst and no strife.

if you do not want such a thing, it is your right to choose. but please do not make your selves look bad.

Exactly. I feel sorry for children who grow up with parents who hold that viewpoint. I like to think that my family is the most important thing to my parents.

And again, why not just take us all up to heaven without living here first? That would make it better for all of us. If he can do it for some, why not do it for all?

 

[linwood]

I further argued that, since children are automatic heirs to the kingdom of God, i will be thankfull to my creator, which no one has ever aknowledged.

You do realize this argument can`t be upheld through the use of Biblical text don`t you?

There is no "Get out of hell free" card for children as many Christians believe.

The only way to heaven is through baptism and Christ.

If a child cannot cognitively accept Jesus as savior on his her own he/she cannot enter heaven.

Perhaps you can correct me, please point to the verse.

Thanks.

 

[uss_bigd]

I supplied the verse below. but first let me ask you, what is required for baptism?
isn't repentance and faith?

Can children have faith? are they able to repent? do they sin at all? (i can support these with verses if you require)


Hence by logic and perfect justice, childrean are automatically heirs to the kindgdom of God.


Matthew 18


1At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?
2And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them,
3And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
4Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven. 5And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me


and lastly,

Matthew 19:14

But Jesus said, Suffer the little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for to such belongeth the kingdom of heaven.

Where do children and childlike(e.g mentally retarded) people belong? The God of the bible is a just God.

i hope this helps.

 

[Magic Man]

I supplied the verse below. but first let me ask you, what is required for baptism?
isn't repentance and faith?

Can children have faith? are they able to repent? do they sin at all? (i can support these with verses if you require)


Hence by logic and perfect justice, childrean are automatically heirs to the kindgdom of God.


Matthew 18


1At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?
2And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them,
3And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
4Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven. 5And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me


and lastly,

Matthew 19:14

But Jesus said, Suffer the little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for to such belongeth the kingdom of heaven.

Where do children and childlike(e.g mentally retarded) people belong? The God of the bible is a just God.

i hope this helps.

So we don't have to accept Christ, we just have to be ignorant or mentally deficient. Is that the general idea? I'm sorry for letting the reason and intellect "that God gave me" get in the way of my ignorance and blind faith.