Does Christmas have anything to do with Christ?

[MikeSavage]

Thank you for telling me what my interests are without you I would be so lost. I have barely you spoken to you and you so quickly pass judgement on me. That does not seem like something one of God's people would do.

Are you indicating that you want to be added to my ignore list? It would be no trouble at all.

 

[Shak34]

Are you indicating that you want to be added to my ignore list? It would be no trouble at all.

I would please like to know why you have pasted judgement on me. If you feel that you need to put me on ignore then do what will make you happy. If I told you what your interest were and that you are not a believer, like you have told me, how would you react?

 

[MikeSavage]

I would please like to know why you have pasted judgement on me. If you feel that you need to put me on ignore then do what will make you happy. If I told you what your interest were and that you are not a believer, like you have told me, how would you react?

I didn't tell you that you were not a believer, and I only said you have no interest in me or witnesses.

 

[savagewind]

I didn't tell you that you were not a believer, and I only said you have no interest in me or witnesses.

You said to reject the arrangement of God is to reject God. How can someone be a believer and also reject God?

 

[Shak34]

You have the only answer I am going to give you. If you want further clarification, research it. I am not here to answer to your beck and call. You are not a true believer, and therefore I am under no obligation to treat you as such. When I teach, it is in stages. Baby food, then moderate food, then adult food. You haven't even tasted the baby food yet.

This is one of your replies to me. Yes you said I was not a believer, actually you said that I am not a true believer. Why have you passed judgement on me, without hardly talking to me?

 

[MikeSavage]

This is one of your replies to me. Yes you said I was not a believer, actually you said that I am not a true believer. Why have you passed judgement on me, without hardly talking to me?

That was accidentally addressed to you, and was intended for someone else, and I apologized to you . If you were a true believer though, you would not be behaving this way. It appears that you said you were a Babtist, did you not?

 

[Shak34]

That was accidentally addressed to you, and was intended for someone else, and I apologized to you . If you were a true believer though, you would not be behaving this way. It appears that you said you were a Babtist, did you not?

No, that was someone else, I am not a baptist. I am not with any religion. But no problem, though not sure exactly how I am behaving. Maybe sometime we will have a more pleasant conversation.

 

[MikeSavage]

No, that was someone else, I am not a baptist. I am not with any religion. But not problem, though not sure exactly how I am behaving. Maybe sometime we will have a more pleasant conversation.

Maybe so.

 

[ChristineES]

That was accidentally addressed to you, and was intended for someone else, and I apologized to you . If you were a true believer though, you would not be behaving this way. It appears that you said you were a Babtist, did you not?

Actually, that was me who is the Baptist. I am getting a bit of enjoyment reading this.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

Actually, that was me who is the Baptist. I am getting a bit of enjoyment reading this.

I'm not. The thread topic is not about who is the bigger and better Christian......

A previous poster sumed the thread question up...using a bible verse about decorating trees which seems to suggest the pagan rtual co-opted by Chistians go back further before the existence of Christianity. The poster also commented on the fact that the biblical Yeshua most likely wasn't born on or around the date of De. 25th. This is most likely because it represents the pagan winter soltice. The poster listed information corroberating yours about Yule celebrations. These are the things that fascinate me. This back and forth and dueling scriptures seems to really not be that important.

 

[ChristineES]

I'm not. The thread topic is not about who is the bigger and better Christian......

A previous poster sumed the thread question up...using a bible verse about decorating trees which seems to suggest the pagan rtual co-opted by Chistians go back further before the existence of Christianity. The poster also commented on the fact that the biblical Yeshua most likely wasn't born on or around the date of De. 25th. This is most likely because it represents the pagan winter soltice. The poster listed information corroberating yours about Yule celebrations. These are the things that fascinate me. This back and forth and dueling scriptures seems to really not be that important.

I was answering the question of the person I quoted.

 

[savagewind]

The Hebrew scripture which mentions decorating a tree is about a carved idol that people attribute power to. To make it about a Christmas tree is called twisting scripture. To change the meaning of a scripture to support one's own ambition is a sin against said scripture I think.

 

[NulliuSINverba]

The Hebrew scripture which mentions decorating a tree is about a carved idol that people attribute power to.

1.) That Hebrew scripture is in the Christian Bible. If we're free to ignore it, can we also discard the Ten Commandments?
2.) You carve the Christmas tree when you cut it down or fashion an artificial one.

Don't people claim that a Christmas tree has the power to fill the room with The Spirit Of Christmas? Don't we say that Christmas trees convey a message? Isn't the tree where the presents magically materialize? Are these not attributes of the Christmas tree?

To make it about a Christmas tree is called twisting scripture.

Please cite me the (totally untwisted) scripture that advises humans to decorate Christmas trees to honor the birth of Jesus.

Thanks.

To change the meaning of a scripture to support one's own ambition is a sin against said scripture I think.

Ibid.

 

[savagewind]

1.) That Hebrew scripture is in the Christian Bible. If we're free to ignore it, can we also discard the Ten Commandments?

I am not ignoring it.

2.) You carve the Christmas tree when you cut it down or fashion an artificial one.

No you don't. Carve and cut are different.

Don't people claim that a Christmas tree has the power to fill the room with The Spirit Of Christmas? Don't we say that Christmas trees convey a message? Isn't the tree where the presents magically materialize? Are these not attributes of the Christmas tree?

I have never heard of it. I have a tree. It is a decoration.

Please cite me the (totally untwisted) scripture that advises humans to decorate Christmas trees to honor the birth of Jesus.

The love of God is not command upon command
Isaiah 28:10New International Version (NIV)
10 For it is:
Do this, do that,
a rule for this, a rule for that;
a little here, a little there.

Titus 1: 15 All things are clean to clean people;+ but to those who are defiled and faithless, nothing is clean, for both their minds and their consciences are defiled.+16 They publicly declare that they know God, but they disown him by their works,+ because they are detestable and disobedient and not approved for good work of any sort.

What do you think "all things are clean" means?

 

[McBell]

What do you think "all things are clean" means?

um...
That humans are advised to decorate Christmas trees?

Though I have no idea how...

 

[savagewind]

um...
That humans are advised to decorate Christmas trees?

Though I have no idea how...

What's your problem? It's called freedom. I am not an advocate of The Tree. I go along with the man. When I was JW he had to decorate it. It was really ugly. Now it is pretty. Do you have a problem with that?

 

[savagewind]

um...
That humans are advised to decorate Christmas trees?

Though I have no idea how...

You have no idea how to decorate a tree. Am I surprised? Haha Maybe that bug feeds on your brain when you sleep.

 

[McBell]

Please cite me the (totally untwisted) scripture that advises humans to decorate Christmas trees to honor the birth of Jesus.

Isaiah 28:10New International Version (NIV)
10 For it is:
Do this, do that,
a rule for this, a rule for that;
a little here, a little there.

Titus 1: 15 All things are clean to clean people;+ but to those who are defiled and faithless, nothing is clean, for both their minds and their consciences are defiled.+16 They publicly declare that they know God, but they disown him by their works,+ because they are detestable and disobedient and not approved for good work of any sort.

What do you think "all things are clean" means?

um...
That humans are advised to decorate Christmas trees?

Though I have no idea how...

What's your problem? It's called freedom. I am not an advocate of The Tree. I go along with the man. When I was JW he had to decorate it. It was really ugly. Now it is pretty. Do you have a problem with that?

No idea what you are going on about.
I have no idea how the verse you presented advises humans to decorate Christmas trees.

 

[savagewind]

No idea what you are going on about.
I have no idea how the verse you presented advises humans to decorate Christmas trees.

OK. The verse HE (not me) presented is about carving an idol and HE (not me) says it is about decorating Christmas trees. I say it is NOT about decorations.

 

[savagewind]

Isaiah 28 is about rules versus common sense. I think there is no better way to say Titus 1:15 than what it says.

God doesn't advise anyone to decorate a tree for Christmas. To say so is absurd.

"We only do what God tells us to do" Haha People probably really think that. "Do the dishes" says God. Oh brother!