Does god make a good parent?

[Autodidact]

you don't know Him very well then...

Only what I read in the Bible.

 

[waitasec]

This coming from an accuser who makes such practice.

how can someone, a mere mortal, find contradictions in gods eternal word and use it against god himself?

 

[Thief]

how can someone, a mere mortal, find contradictions in gods eternal word and use it against god himself?

If you find what appears to be a contradiction...work it out.

Of course, most people don't.
At any given moment, one man will tell you...'this is this'.
The next man will say nay...'that is that'.
Then it's up to you which side the line you want to stand on.

But drawing a line between yourself and God?
And all because you couldn't...or wouldn't ....sort through the details?

Unlike a good parent......God is God.

You are not your own handiwork.
Your body will fail.
If you have decided on life after death....other decisions are also required.

 

[waitasec]

If you find what appears to be a contradiction...work it out.

Of course, most people don't.
At any given moment, one man will tell you...'this is this'.
The next man will say nay...'that is that'.
Then it's up to you which side the line you want to stand on.

But drawing a line between yourself and God?
And all because you couldn't...or wouldn't ....sort through the details?

Unlike a good parent......God is God.

You are not your own handiwork.
Your body will fail.
If you have decided on life after death....other decisions are also required.

so much for the infallible word of god that needs "sorting out"
what a joke

 

[Thief]

so much for the infallible word of god that needs "sorting out"
what a joke

Laugh all you want to.

I just told you...'this is this and that is that'.

That you don't understand is not a reflection of me...or God.

 

[waitasec]

Laugh all you want to.

I just told....'this is this and that is that'.

That you don't understand is not a reflection of me...or God.

to suggest you have the answers is actually comical, :biglaugh:
who can take an a self-important, condescending, pompous poor excuse of a "christian" seriously....?

 

[Thief]

to suggest you have the answers is actually comical, :biglaugh:
who can take an a self-important, condescending, pompous poor excuse of a "christian" seriously....?

If your fellow man doesn't have the answers, and there is no God....
and scripture is conflicted....and so on... and so on....

I guess you will end up .....with nothing.

 

[waitasec]

If your fellow man doesn't have the answers, and there is no God....
and scripture is conflicted....and so on... and so on....

I guess you will end up .....with nothing.

ah, you're such a know it all
good for you :clap

 

[idea]

...as a parent i know what unconditional love is

If you know how to love, then you know God .

I am a parent too - 3 kids

 

[idea]

Only what I read in the Bible.

Here's a biography of Tom Cruise
Tom Cruise - Biography

After reading it, would you say you "know" T.C.? ... if all you did was read a book, the answer would be "no, I don't really know Tom, I just read a book on him once."

meet him once, and you can say "yea, I met him once"
meet him several times, hang around for a bit, then you can say "I know him a little bit"...
it takes quite a close relashonship with someone before you can say "I know him"

Many people love/hate a figment of their imagination - you can't love/hate someone you don't really know...

 

[waitasec]

Books are nice, but there are better ways to get to know Him...

if you learn how to love, you can get to know Him...
(New Testament | 1 John4:8)
8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

we come to know Him through our actions... not really from reading a book.


through the Holy Spirit you can get to know Him...
(New Testament | John14:26)
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things...

Spiritual experiences are much more powerful than reading a book...

I agree, books / scriptures have lots of issues, are imperfect, and are not the best tool for learning things imo.

If you know how to love, then you know God .

I am a parent too - 3 kids

the scripture you used is in this context...

1 john 4:5 They are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to them. 6 We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. This is how we recognize the Spirit of truth and the spirit of falsehood.
7 Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God. 8 Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love. 9 This is how God showed his love among us:He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him. 10 This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins. 11 Dear friends, since God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. 12 No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us.

you claim to have the real love
how nice for you


the spirit of truth... :ignore:

 

[idea]

(New Testament | 1 John4:16)
he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him...

yep - All you need is love!
I don't think love is something anyone ever fully has, there is no upper bound to how much love you can have, love is infinite, you can always love more.

 

[waitasec]

(New Testament | 1 John4:16)
he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him...

yep - All you need is love!
I don't think love is something anyone ever fully has, there is no upper bound to how much love you can have, love is infinite, you can always love more.

i know you mean well, i was on the other side of the fence myself.
but do you understand how presumptuous that comes off as?

in the very same book where god says he is a jealous god, there is no envy in love, where god judges; love keeps no record of wrong
gods love is finite because it is based on conditions...
there is no fear in love.

 

[idea]

i know you mean well, i was on the other side of the fence myself.
but do you understand how presumptuous that comes off as?

in the very same book where god says he is a jealous god, there is no envy in love, where god judges; love keeps no record of wrong
gods love is finite because it is based on conditions...
there is no fear in love.

I've been on both sides too. Perhaps it is different for you, but if I am honest, the love I have experienced has been conditional, full of fear, jealousy, and envy. That's ok though, because it is also full of joy. Love is a complex monster, but a wonderful one.

love and blessings to you and yours!

 

[waitasec]

Here's a biography of Tom Cruise
Tom Cruise - Biography

After reading it, would you say you "know" T.C.? ... if all you did was read a book, the answer would be "no, I don't really know Tom, I just read a book on him once."

meet him once, and you can say "yea, I met him once"
meet him several times, hang around for a bit, then you can say "I know him a little bit"...
it takes quite a close relashonship with someone before you can say "I know him"

Many people love/hate a figment of their imagination - you can't love/hate someone you don't really know...

how do you presume to know god?
through a book, no. you are on the right track there
BUT what is scary is that you base you impression of god from a fallible book and then you claim to have a relationship, how? do you hear voices? is there an exchange of some sort? when i prayed, i never heard anything but my own inner voice, the same voice i use to think with...and i sought him out
and according to you, i have no love because i know him not

again, do you see how absurd that is
how can anyone take that seriously?

i would imagine only broken insecure fearful people would gravitate towards this line of thinking

 

[Autodidact]

If you know how to love, then you know God .

I am a parent too - 3 kids

I know how to love. I have never met God.

On what basis do you make this assertion?

 

[idea]

how do you presume to know god?
through a book, no. you are on the right track there
BUT what is scary is that you base you impression of god from a fallible book and then you claim to have a relationship, how? do you hear voices? is there an exchange of some sort? when i prayed, i never heard anything but my own inner voice, the same voice i use to think with...and i sought him out
and according to you, i have no love because i know him not

again, do you see how absurd that is
how can anyone take that seriously?

i would imagine only broken insecure fearful people would gravitate towards this line of thinking

This is me:
Hi, I'm Jamie Lyn | Mormon.org
you can read why I am a Mormon... it is possible to communicate with God.

 

[jonman122]

This is me:
Hi, I'm Jamie Lyn | Mormon.org
you can read why I am a Mormon... it is possible to communicate with God.

you didnt describe any way to communicate with god, just that you had a personal spiritual experience. I've had things i could call spiritual experiences, but just because i have some kind of feeling doesn't mean my ideas based on that feeling are right. Like just now, when i tell you your god does not exist, you will get this feeling that i am incorrect, that you are correct, that you should try to find a way to either justify your experience or disprove what im saying by using something ludicrous like "god is beyond logic and reason and you must disprove him before i will stop believing."

just because you get some kind of feeling doesn't mean you should think it's some kind of supernatural god-like force sitting with you in a room, while you look at a board.

 

[idea]

I know how to love. I have never met God.

On what basis do you make this assertion?

You know how with some people you can be around them for years and years, and still not know them – but then other people you hit it off the moment you meet them, by the end of the night you know one another, you can finish each other’s sentences – you know them from what you have in common.

If you live your life on the sea… you might not know the name Vasco Da Gama, you might not know the name, but if you know what a life at sea is, you know him. If you ever met him, you would be able to finish one another’s sentences, because you live for the same things.

 

[idea]

just because you get some kind of feeling doesn't mean you should think it's some kind of supernatural god-like force sitting with you in a room, while you look at a board.

it's not just a feeling...