Does It Disturb You That the US President Is a Compulsive, Blatant, Unrepentant Liar?

[Nous]

What grinds my gears about his lying is the fact that it caused people to never get a full handle on the real Trump. People keep saying things like he is so unpredictable etc., as if he keeps doing things that are so unexpected. Unpredictable is a laugh, Trump is doing exactly what an anti-science, bigoted, war-mongering, theocratic, dictator type president would be expected to do. Those who thought he wasn't those things have been duped. Regardless of what Trump says, we should expect nothing less than him acting in the interest of that awful list.

One cannot deny those adjectives that I underlined (really, we could add a few more, e.g., delusional). But it's the particular acts that he perpetrates as expressions of such adjectives that are not very predictable. No one predicted he would fire Comey. No one predicted that, after all of his spokespersons denied it had anything to do with the Russia investigation, he would get on TV and freely admit it was because of "the Russia thing". As far as I know, no one predicted that he would suddenly expel all transgender persons from the military as a way of appealing to his bigoted base.

 

[idav]

One cannot deny those adjectives that I underlined (really, we could add a few more, e.g., delusional). But it's the particular acts that he perpetrates as expressions of such adjectives that are not very predictable. No one predicted he would fire Comey. No one predicted that, after all of his spokespersons denied it had anything to do with the Russia investigation, he would get on TV and freely admit it was because of "the Russia thing". As far as I know, no one predicted that he would suddenly expel all transgender persons from the military as a way of appealing to his bigoted base.

Why so unpredictable. People on this very forum were saying Comey is in trouble with either president and him reversing as much of Obama as he can muster. Nope I'm not surprised.

Did people really believe articles like this?
Trump Will Continue LGBTQ Worker Protection Order Signed by Obama

 

[james dixon]

What about Hillary's uranium deal with the Russians.
What about Bernie Sanders and his wife caught in bank fraud.
What about Obama giving Millions of money to Iran
What about PBS reporting about democrate AG John Kerry.

Listen my friend, two (2) wrongs, much less four (4) wrongs do not excuse Trump's blatant lying. Trump cares less what happens to America. All he cares about is himself and none other.

Please for God's sake, set aside the past and concentrate on the here and now. Trump is unfit to be President, period.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Listen my friend, two (2) wrongs, much less four (4) wrongs do not excuse Trump's blatant lying. Trump cares less what happens to America. All he cares about is himself and none other.

Please for God's sake, set aside the past and concentrate on the here and now. Trump is unfit to be President, period.

Yeah you take your own advice. You have no idea about Trump.
Further more I was strong democrate for 45 yrs, now that I gotten older, I see everything that Democrates stand for and it is not good.
Democrates fought during the Civil war to keep blacks in Slavery back in 1863 and the KKK joined in to help democrates to keep Slavery and wanted to spread slavery into all the other States and in 1923 the KKK joined the DNC.
It was Republican President Abraham Lincoln who freed blacks from Slavery and then after President Abraham Lincoln was assassinated, then another Republican President gave the blacks the right to vote in 1869.
This was way before women had the right to vote, which women's right to vote came about in the 1940's.

Your just still blinded by what the Democratic party is and as long as the democratic party can keep you from looking at the pass, that's to their advantage, to keep you blinded to their agenda of a dictatorship Government.
I remember when the democratic party stood for something.
Democrate President JFK, had this saying. Ask not what your Country can do for you, But ask what you can do for your Country"

Now look at the Democratic party, doing nothing but giving hand outs to anyone and everyone.all the while taking Americans tax dollars to give to these Illegal immigrants and refugees, Muslims, you see why people are sick of what democrates are doing.
Obama pardon Gitmo Terrorist, who swore to destroy American people.
Hillary Clinton embraced this man who was retiring from the democratic party, who was the Grand wizard Leader of the KKK.
What about Nancy Pelosi father who dedicated Confederate Monuments all the while Nancy Pelosi tried it all.
All the democratic party wants is a Dictatorship Government.
What set me against the democratic party is when our democrate Governor Jennifer granholm said to the people "You do not tell me, No I tell you"
She was totally wrong there, we the people voted that fool into office and we the people voted her right out of office the following year.

And since then democrates think they can tell us the people what we are to do and when, will look what happen with hillary, don't look so much that Democrates are telling us the American people what we are to do, No more.

You really need to look at all those countries that has a dictatorship Government. Those people have no rights what so ever.is this the kind of Government you want.keeping running with the democratic party and that's exactly the kind of Government your heading for.

The pass is what will teach you not to repeat.you learn by the pass.

Back in 1963 after President JFK got assassinated, then Lyndon B Johnson the vice president took over, and he put forth a law that prohibited the churches of having any say about anything concerning who was to be President.

But now President Donald Trump gave back to the churches to have a say about things. Why do you suppose the Christians voted for Trump?

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

A contentious judgement call, eh.

The system isn't designed to select the most qualified candidate to be President.
It's designed to select the most qualified candidate to run for President, ie, the most likely to win the race.

Silly analogy time....
It's like selecting an orthopedic surgeon by having a pie eating contest.

"Populism" is generally a derogatory a negative term applied to the politician who caters to the other side's desires.

But I like the silly analogy!

 

[idav]

Yeah you take your own advice. You have no idea about Trump.
Further more I was strong democrate for 45 yrs, now that I gotten older, I see everything that Democrates stand for and it is not good.
Democrates fought during the Civil war to keep blacks in Slavery back in 1863 and the KKK joined in to help democrates to keep Slavery and wanted to spread slavery into all the other States and in 1923 the KKK joined the DNC.
It was Republican President Abraham Lincoln who freed blacks from Slavery and then after President Abraham Lincoln was assassinated, then another Republican President gave the blacks the right to vote in 1869.
This was way before women had the right to vote, which women's right to vote came about in the 1940's.

Your just still blinded by what the Democratic party is and as long as the democratic party can keep you from looking at the pass, that's to their advantage, to keep you blinded to their agenda of a dictatorship Government.
I remember when the democratic party stood for something.
Democrate President JFK, had this saying. Ask not what your Country can do for you, But ask what you can do for your Country"

Now look at the Democratic party, doing nothing but giving hand outs to anyone and everyone.all the while taking Americans tax dollars to give to these Illegal immigrants and refugees, Muslims, you see why people are sick of what democrates are doing.
Obama pardon Gitmo Terrorist, who swore to destroy American people.
Hillary Clinton embraced this man who was retiring from the democratic party, who was the Grand wizard Leader of the KKK.
What about Nancy Pelosi father who dedicated Confederate Monuments all the while Nancy Pelosi tried it all.
All the democratic party wants is a Dictatorship Government.
What set me against the democratic party is when our democrate Governor Jennifer granholm said to the people "You do not tell me, No I tell you"
She was totally wrong there, we the people voted that fool into office and we the people voted her right out of office the following year.

And since then democrates think they can tell us the people what we are to do and when, will look what happen with hillary, don't look so much that Democrates are telling us the American people what we are to do, No more.

You really need to look at all those countries that has a dictatorship Government. Those people have no rights what so ever.is this the kind of Government you want.keeping running with the democratic party and that's exactly the kind of Government your heading for.

The pass is what will teach you not to repeat.you learn by the pass.

Back in 1963 after President JFK got assassinated, then Lyndon B Johnson the vice president took over, and he put forth a law that prohibited the churches of having any say about anything concerning who was to be President.

But now President Donald Trump gave back to the churches to have a say about things. Why do you suppose the Christians voted for Trump?

There seems to be misinformation here. In 1860 there were republicans, northern democrats, and southern democrats. In 1864 was when we see the major two parties, a democrat lost to Lincoln. Democrats did not fight for slavery.
United States presidential election, 1860 - Wikipedia
United States presidential election, 1864 - Wikipedia
United States presidential election, 1868 - Wikipedia

Anyhow, one has to wonder why the party of Lincoln were not the first to push for the civil rights movement and Democrats ended up with the Progressive label.

 

[Faithofchristian]

There seems to be misinformation here. In 1860 there were republicans, northern democrats, and southern democrats. In 1864 was when we see the major two parties, a democrat lost to Lincoln. Democrats did not fight for slavery.
United States presidential election, 1860 - Wikipedia
United States presidential election, 1864 - Wikipedia
United States presidential election, 1868 - Wikipedia

Anyhow, one has to wonder why the party of Lincoln were not the first to push for the civil rights movement and Democrats ended up with the Progressive label.

There is no misinformation. It all stands as is, it was the Republicans who fought to free the black slaves in the south, and it was the democrates along with the KKK that wanted to keep blacks as slaves.

It was John Wilkes Booth democrate from the south who assassinated Republican President Abraham Lincoln.

At the time of the Civil war between the States, there were no democrates in the north, not until after the civil war, then the Southerners started to migrate to North to look for jobs.as did my Grandfather and my father. Looking for jobs, that were not no longer to be found in the South.
Because of the civil war.

People did not want to go to the north all because they were look down on as well as the democrates. For the south Slavery of blacks.
I do know my history of the South and how because of the civil war, the south was becoming poor.
And the democratic party saw this and came to help the poor whites
This is how the democratic party became to be know as the party for the poor, That is the Poor whites.

 

[idav]

At the time of the Civil war between the States, there were no democrates in the north, not until after the civil war.....

The links I gave contradict this but your free to believe as you like. If Lincoln would have lost then a Democrat would have freed the slaves, I showed the electoral results during and after the civil war and it shows Democrats were indeed in the North during the Civil war election 1864.

The Democratic Party spit due to slavery, north and south which is why I mentioned those parties from the 1860 election.
Northern Democratic Party - Ohio History Central

From the article:
"Following the Civil War, the Democratic Party reunited, but Democrats residing in the South sometimes advanced different goals for their party than Democrats from the North. Some Northern Democrats fought for the rights of the working class against business owners and other industrialists while other Northern Democrats defended commerce and industry. Many Southern Democrats, especially in the years immediately following the Civil War, sought to protect rural and agricultural interests. Some Southern Democrats also worked to enact laws that denied African Americans equal rights"

 

[Faithofchristian]

The links I gave contradict this but your free to believe as you like. If Lincoln would have lost then a Democrat would have freed the slaves, I showed the electoral results during and after the civil war and it shows Democrats were indeed in the North during the Civil war election 1864.

The Democratic Party spit due to slavery, north and south which is why I mentioned those parties from the 1860 election.
Northern Democratic Party - Ohio History Central

From the article:
"Following the Civil War, the Democratic Party reunited, but Democrats residing in the South sometimes advanced different goals for their party than Democrats from the North. Some Northern Democrats fought for the rights of the working class against business owners and other industrialists while other Northern Democrats defended commerce and industry. Many Southern Democrats, especially in the years immediately following the Civil War, sought to protect rural and agricultural interests. Some Southern Democrats also worked to enact laws that denied African Americans equal rights"

Well there you have it,
As you said, Some Southern democrates also worked to enact laws that denied African Americans equal rights.

That's exactly where Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Jennifer Warren is from the South.

That explains why Nancy Pelosi father dedicated Confederate statues to be place at Government buildings in the South.

It also explains why Hillary didn't go alot to the black communitys or Jennifer Warren, Nancy Pelosi, because they were from the democratic South.

This also explains why back in the early 1960's that Hillary was out protesting against Dr Martin Luther King Jr, wanted him jailed and Civil Rights movement abandoned.
Because hillary was from the South, Little Rock Arkansas. As was bill clinton from Little Rock Arkansas.
There hasn't been a decent democrate since democrate President JFK, and he was from the North, Boston Massachusetts.
Those democrates from the south, wanted to keep Slavery. That now for to day, those democrates from the South have done nothing but destroy the democratic party.

This is exactly why I am not a strong democrate like I use to be.
Those democrates to day all they want is a dictatorship Government.
A person would think that after 7 Months that by now, Hillary would be over her temper tantrum.but she shows herself as a little spoiled brat. That can't get her away on things.
Might as well face it, the democratic party is done.for every time an election comes up, democrates have lost to the Republicans.
If democrates are as good as you think they are, then why hasn't democrates done anything for the black communitys, but give them the shaft. In return for their votes, what's up with all that.

African Americans are catching on what exactly democrates are all about. Why do you suppose African Americans did not vote for Hillary? And it didn't even help when Obama was out campaiging for her

Obama himself gave the African Americans the shaft himself. For 8 years Obama did nothing for black communitys.
But would give hand outs to Illegal immigrants, the refugees, Muslims, gave Millions of dollars to Iran, all the while black communitys got the shaft.

 

[idav]

Well there you have it,
As you said, Some Southern democrates also worked to enact laws that denied African Americans equal rights.

That's exactly where Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Jennifer Warren is from the South.

That explains why Nancy Pelosi father dedicated Confederate statues to be place at Government buildings in the South.

It also explains why Hillary didn't go alot to the black communitys or Jennifer Warren, Nancy Pelosi, because they were from the democratic South.

This also explains why back in the early 1960's that Hillary was out protesting against Dr Martin Luther King Jr, wanted him jailed and Civil Rights movement abandoned.
Because hillary was from the South, Little Rock Arkansas. As was bill clinton from Little Rock Arkansas.
There hasn't been a decent democrate since democrate President JFK, and he was from the North, Boston Massachusetts.
Those democrates from the south, wanted to keep Slavery. That now for to day, those democrates from the South have done nothing but destroy the democratic party.

This is exactly why I am not a strong democrate like I use to be.
Those democrates to day all they want is a dictatorship Government.
A person would think that after 7 Months that by now, Hillary would be over her temper tantrum.but she shows herself as a little spoiled brat. That can't get her away on things.
Might as well face it, the democratic party is done.for every time an election comes up, democrates have lost to the Republicans.
If democrates are as good as you think they are, then why hasn't democrates done anything for the black communitys, but give them the shaft. In return for their votes, what's up with all that.

African Americans are catching on what exactly democrates are all about. Why do you suppose African Americans did not vote for Hillary? And it didn't even help when Obama was out campaiging for her

Obama himself gave the African Americans the shaft himself. For 8 years Obama did nothing for black communitys.
But would give hand outs to Illegal immigrants, the refugees, Muslims, gave Millions of dollars to Iran, all the while black communitys got the shaft.

You didn't even try and get the point I was getting at. We know the south and Bible Belt can be full of hypocrites you don't have to tell me that. Besides that you have any links to justify any part of your rant, or you just want people to take your word for it?

 

[Faithofchristian]

You didn't even try and get the point I was getting at. We know the south and Bible Belt can be full of hypocrites you don't have to tell me that. Besides that you have any links to justify any part of your rant, or you just want people to take your word for it?

I don't need No links, I have my Southern heritage.

 

[idav]

I don't need No links, I have my Southern heritage.

Nobody is just going to take your word for it. Besides none of what you stated justifies Trumps hate nor does it justify constantly scapegoating for the guy.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

There is no misinformation. It all stands as is, it was the Republicans who fought to free the black slaves in the south, and it was the democrates along with the KKK that wanted to keep blacks as slaves.

It was John Wilkes Booth democrate from the south who assassinated Republican President Abraham Lincoln.

At the time of the Civil war between the States, there were no democrates in the north, not until after the civil war, then the Southerners started to migrate to North to look for jobs.as did my Grandfather and my father. Looking for jobs, that were not no longer to be found in the South.
Because of the civil war.

People did not want to go to the north all because they were look down on as well as the democrates. For the south Slavery of blacks.
I do know my history of the South and how because of the civil war, the south was becoming poor.
And the democratic party saw this and came to help the poor whites
This is how the democratic party became to be know as the party for the poor, That is the Poor whites.

Political ideologies change over time. Even the meanings of terms like liberal and conservative shift.

When Lincoln came along, the republicans were a new party -- a hodgepodge of northern former Whig (once "liberal") constituencies. This included people who wished to develop the west, and that also found common cause with issues of slavery. Overall, they kept much of the Whig economic views that the government should be involved in the economy (does that sound like today's Republicans to you?), and favoured policies to promote growth. They favoured financing infrastructure and education. They were keen on protecting native industries and policies that promoted commerce and rapid job growth. Yes, more federal involvement in all these things, and that meant using taxpayer dollars. They were the forward looking, innovative party, and also vaguely speaking they were the "big government" party and had policies that promoted big banks, big industry, big business. Again I ask, does that sound like today's Republicans?

The Democrats of the day were more tradition-minded, interested in keeping taxes low and leaving it to the states, not the central government, to promote commerce and so on. Those Democrats really were much more the "states' rights" party than the Republicans.

After the Civil War is when things started to move, and that continued for over 130 years: the Republicans began breaking up into factions, often divided on issues like how much the government should support big business, leading to the emergence of a conservative business, at odds with the other, more progressive side.

I won't go on -- I just think it's important to know that the Republican Party of today is decidedly not Lincoln's and he would not recognize it's ideologies as having anything to do with Republicanism as he understood it.

 

[Faithofchristian]

The Republican party was founded in 1854
And was an Anti - Slavery movement.

The Democratic party was founded in 1829, Supported Slavery, Started the Civil war, opposed reconstruction, founded the KKK, Imposed Segregation, Perpetrated Lynchings, Fought the Civil Rights Act of the 1950's and ,1960's.
Wanted Dr Martin Luther King Jr jailed and the Civil Rights movement abandoned.

Democrate Nancy Pelosi father dedicated many Confederate statues, that were place at Government buildings.

Hillary Clinton, at the age of 18 and still active, protested against Dr Martin Luther King Jr in the 1960's, and wanted him jail and the Civil Rights movement abandoned.

Hillary's great grandparents were slave owner's and deep rooted in hillarys parents and her, is it any wonder why Hillary and the Democratic party was active against Dr Martin Luther King Jr and the civil Rights movement of the 1960's ?
The democrates does their best at trying to hide out these facts. If African Americans ever wake up and to see the party that they have been in Supporting, it would definitely blow up and hit the fan.
Why do you suppose that every time a Democrate is elected in as President does not do a thing for the African Americans communities. But to take their votes and leave the black communitys in Proverty.
It doesn't take much to figure that out, by looking at the history of the Democratic party's agenda over the years.

 

[james dixon]

Further more I was strong democrate for 45 yrs, now that I gotten older, I see everything that Democrates stand for and it is not good

Trump will be impeached before the end of the year & removed from office. He may even be charged with a crime and spend so time in jail.
Secondly, I strongly suggest having your eyes checked. You need glasses; it will help you see reality a bit clearer.

 

[idav]

The Republican party was founded in 1854
And was an Anti - Slavery movement.

The Democratic party was founded in 1829, Supported Slavery, Started the Civil war, opposed reconstruction, founded the KKK, Imposed Segregation, Perpetrated Lynchings, Fought the Civil Rights Act of the 1950's and ,1960's.
Wanted Dr Martin Luther King Jr jailed and the Civil Rights movement abandoned.

Democrate Nancy Pelosi father dedicated many Confederate statues, that were place at Government buildings.

Hillary Clinton, at the age of 18 and still active, protested against Dr Martin Luther King Jr in the 1960's, and wanted him jail and the Civil Rights movement abandoned.

Hillary's great grandparents were slave owner's and deep rooted in hillarys parents and her, is it any wonder why Hillary and the Democratic party was active against Dr Martin Luther King Jr and the civil Rights movement of the 1960's ?
The democrates does their best at trying to hide out these facts. If African Americans ever wake up and to see the party that they have been in Supporting, it would definitely blow up and hit the fan.
Why do you suppose that every time a Democrate is elected in as President does not do a thing for the African Americans communities. But to take their votes and leave the black communitys in Proverty.
It doesn't take much to figure that out, by looking at the history of the Democratic party's agenda over the years.

Do you not see the irony in what your saying considering the US had it's first black president which happened to come out of the Democrats? Poverty just isn't some easy thing to fix and Obama put out some of the biggest stimulus packages for the poor, I remember seeing the checks, due to the biggest global financial crisis he inherited from Bush.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Trump will be impeached before the end of the year & removed from office. He may even be charged with a crime and spend so time in jail.
Secondly, I strongly suggest having your eyes checked. You need glasses; it will help you see reality a bit clearer.

If Trump is impeach, it will be by false accusations against him.

The democratic party can not handle those that voted Trump into office, when people stand up against Trump those people are also standing up against those who voted Trump into office.
Trump did not get to become President all on his own, it took People to vote Trump into the office of President.

Therefore to go out against Trump, people are actually going out against those who voted for Trump.
Who is anyone to tell others how they are to Vote, That's the way of the Democratic party that wants to have a Dictatorship Government. Which is communism.
Look around at those countries that have a Dictatorship Government.that have no rights whatsoever.
This is what the Democratic party wants to have here.
Therefore to impeach Trump is going against also those who voted Trump into office as President.
Which will definitely lead to war like you have never seen before, look at all those Red States that voted for Trump. There is no way possible to stop them all at coming at those democrates who falsely accuse by false accusations against Trump.

We supported Trump into office by our votes and democrates think they can over trun our votes, need to rethink on that one quick.

Is it not those democrate people, who go out against those people who voted for Trump, trying to tell these people how they are to vote.

That is not how it works. If a people votes to who they want into office of President that how it works, and not for people to out against people who does not vote for the way other people thinks they should.

Who are you to tell others what or how they should live or do or how to vote.
I am not in this world to live up to your expectations nor are you in this world to live up to my expectations.

Ever since Trump became President, the democratic party has done nothing but come up with all sorts of accusations against Trump for 8 months this as been the on going, but with no proof, the democratic is doing what ever it can to undermine voters Rights.

You yourself, one day will have the Democratic party walking on you, and you gave the Democratic party that power to do away with your freedom to choose for yourself.

It's a two way street. Not one way as the Democratic party wants you to think.
Once you give the Democratic party that power, they will turn on you, and say to you, you knew what we were before. Now get behind us and shut the heck up.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Do you not see the irony in what your saying considering the US had it's first black president which happened to come out of the Democrats? Poverty just isn't some easy thing to fix and Obama put out some of the biggest stimulus packages for the poor, I remember seeing the checks, due to the biggest global financial crisis he inherited from Bush.

Are you freaking kidding me, wow you have no clue what so ever, why Obama gave those stimulus packages or those phones that Obama said would be free,.

There is nothing free in this world, those phones were paid for out of the Tax payers dollars.so someone paid for those phones.

And that stimulus package and those free phones came at a price.obama only did those things, for votes.why you think Obama was letting all those Illegal immigrants and Refugees and Illegal Muslims in here, not because they were such nice people, it was for their votes only.
That's how the democratic party work and Obama,Hillary. The Democratic is all about power and they do not care who they have to walk on to get it. your nothing to the Democratic party once you help them to get that power, they will put you down.

 

[james dixon]

Trump did not get to become President all on his own, it took People to vote Trump into the office of President..

People voted for him because trump lied. He said whatever they wanted to hear. They were duped, conned, whatever but the truth was nowhere to be found, period

Now get behind us and shut the heck up.

I am not going to shut up so live with it or stick some cotton in your ears, as if I cared on way or the other

 

[idav]

Are you freaking kidding me, wow you have no clue what so ever, why Obama gave those stimulus packages or those phones that Obama said would be free,.

There is nothing free in this world, those phones were paid for out of the Tax payers dollars.so someone paid for those phones.

Umm, I'm not retarded. ROFL

And that stimulus package and those free phones came at a price.obama only did those things, for votes.why you think Obama was letting all those Illegal immigrants and Refugees and Illegal Muslims in here, not because they were such nice people, it was for their votes only.
That's how the democratic party work and Obama,Hillary. The Democratic is all about power and they do not care who they have to walk on to get it. your nothing to the Democratic party once you help them to get that power, they will put you down.

Immigrants are not allowed to vote. You have to be a US citizen to vote so how is letting immagrants in supposed to help? Is this that 3 million fraudulent votes thing? One of the most hilarious conspiracies of the political season.