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Does the day of Christ ressurection tell us to worship on Sunday?
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james2ko
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I utilize the Hebrew calendar to establish holy time. I was just pointing out how the weekly cycle has been preserved even with all the changes to the current calendar..
james2ko
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Sure you can..And they did. But don't take my word for it..It's a matter of history..look it up..
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Please. Just read this and realize that our calendars are hopelessly out of whack when it comes to trying to figure out which is the first day and which is the last day. One day in seven seems logical to me.
Gregorian calendar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Seventh Day Adventists - if you're using the Gregorian calendar at all, you're kowtowing to a system of time implemented by the Roman Catholic Church. You can't really know WHAT day is first or last - all you're doing is trying to fit your dogma into little boxes that are really man made.
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to get ready for church.
Gregorian calendar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Seventh Day Adventists - if you're using the Gregorian calendar at all, you're kowtowing to a system of time implemented by the Roman Catholic Church. You can't really know WHAT day is first or last - all you're doing is trying to fit your dogma into little boxes that are really man made.
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to get ready for church.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
M T W T F S S plus eleven CANNOT help but jack with the days that former "first and last" days of the week landed.
(the month they added the days was March)
M T W T F S S
1 2 3 4 5 6 7
8 9 10 11 12 13 14
15 16 17 18 19 20 21
22 23 24 25 26 27 28
29 30 31 31 31 31 31
31 31 31 31 31 31 31
April (New one)
The first is on a Monday
April (Old one)
The first was on a Thursday.
It can't work. The dates now fall on different days altogether.
james2ko
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Im no 7th day adventist but it seems to me some are denying not only the consensus of expert astronomers, scholars, and theologians but also historical fact. It would be safe to conclude the ones who are trying to fit their dogma into a little man made box would be those who believe you can't tell difference between the first and seventh day.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Also, what is time anyway? I mean, Israel is 8 hours ahead of US Central time, for example.
But you can always use this site to try to be more accurate:
Shabbat Candle Lighting Times by Email | Hebcal Jewish Calendar
But you can always use this site to try to be more accurate:
Shabbat Candle Lighting Times by Email | Hebcal Jewish Calendar
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I don't have to be an expert astronomer to understand that we can't add eleven days to a month in the 1500s and not jack up the "first" and "last" day of the week - or whatever was being considered the first and last day.
james2ko
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Sure it can. And it did. As much as you would hate to admit it, the weekly cycle was kept in tact. Perhaps you missed this section of the wiki article (about 3/4's of the way down the page):
Week Main article: 7 Day Week
In conjunction with the system of months there is a system of weeks. A physical or electronic calendar provides conversion from a given date to the weekday, and shows multiple dates for a given weekday and month. Calculating the day of the week is not very simple, because of the irregularities in the Gregorian system. When the Gregorian calendar was adopted by each country, the weekly cycle continued uninterrupted. For example, in the case of the few countries that adopted the reformed calendar on the date proposed by Gregory XIII for the calendar's adoption, Friday, 15 October 1582, the preceding date was Thursday, 4 October 1582 (Julian calendar).
But you'd have to be dishonest with yourself to simply stick your head in the sand and deny the facts.
james2ko
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1. The facts speak for themselves. This tweaking never altered the weekly cycle.
2. Are you implying you lose a day if you travel westward around the world---or gain a day if you travel eastward?
3. The spirit of the law is not a license to change the commandments at our convenience. Christ defined the spirit of the law in the sermon on the mount. He explained how lust and not just physically committing the act of adultery, was breaking the spirit of the 7th commandment. He went on to mention how we can break the spirit of the law of other commandments.
The letter of the law was being expanded and made more binding thus revealing it's spiritual intent. It wasn't diminished, replaced or left up to us to decide how it should be obeyed. God said, Remember "the" Sabbath--not a sabbath.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Well, let me just put it to you this way. My dad was a navigator in the Air Force for many years. One of his favorite stories involves flying for two or three days straight, around his birthday, and crossing over so many time zones that he somehow completely missed his birthday.
james2ko
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He may have missed his party, but wherever and whenever he landed, he adjusted his watch to the current date and time and picked up where he left off.
Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Right - and he wasn't there on his birthday. And when it WAS his birthday there, it was not his birthday where he actually WAS.
sincerly
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Hi Kathryn, It isn't the calendar that informs one of the Sabbath. It(Calendar) is only a means of somewhat keeping atuned to the months of the year.
The weekly cycle of seven days is steady---A dark period and a light portion. The Horizon at one's western location determines the beginning of another day with the setting of the Sun.
It may seem logical to you to accept one day in the weekly cycle(any) as a day of "rest/worship", BUT GOD specified the seventh day of the week and Blessed and Sanctified that specific day.
Wasn't Eve using the "same logic" you are proposing----"With all these fruit trees, this one has more advantages than any of the others; therefore, I'll just substitute one of the other fruit trees for this one."
"Wikipedia" is a work in progress by persons like you and I. Notice the "Talk" in the upper left of the OP to any subject. There is still disagreement.
James is right when it comes to how those days were added and not disrupt the weekly cycle. From the 4th day of the month tp the 15th day ----with the days of the week following in the normal order.
The Catholic Church has no fight with the Order in which the days of the week are expressed; They claim that it was the resurrection of Jesus Christ which is being Honored and thereby replacing the True Sabbath Day Of GOD to that of Sunday.
Kathryn, From Moses and Sinai to Jesus the seventh day Sabbath day was known and kept. Jesus didn't negate nor substitute another day in the place of the Sabbath of which HE is the LORD OF. That "little box" is/was made for mankind and was of HIS Making.
Man has been by "man made traditions and decrees" been leading mankind astray by the substitution hoax of the True Sabbath day. (From Saturday--TO Sunday)
James showed you some acknowledgements of the facts.
Whether or not you accept or deny the facts is your choice.
james2ko
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When a person travels, his days are not of even length. The man who travels from San Francisco to New York in one day by airplane finds that this particular day, for him, is counted as only 21 hours, because the sun sets three hours earlier in New York than in San Francisco, and therefore there is three hours difference in time between these two cities. If the man returns, also by plane, he finds his day on the return trip is computed as 27 hours.
If he leaves San Francisco at 5 am and arrives in New York exactly twelve hours later, his watch will register 5 pm but all watches and clocks in New York will register 8 pm. To compute time as others do there, he will have to set his watch up three hours. If he kept traveling around the earth, he would have to keep changing his watch, until he added 24 hours, to his watch, by the time he returned to San Francisco. But did he really add a day to his life? Of course not. The only change is in the way men count time. God expects us to count from wherever one resides at the time.
Well, we know that we should worship God every day of the week; but I agree very much with Reddogs This seventh day was a very special day for God for a good relationship with men, it is a memorial of creation; in another words is for us to remember who is our creator, and why He create all this. So, we can say one day in a week is OK, God says no, the Sabbath is a very special day.
Many people are guilty of pulling the Bible down to match their poor, weak experi­ence, instead of bringing their experience up to meet the requirements of the Word. There is only one great decisive test of truth, and that is the Bible. Every religious thought, every book we read, and every sermon we hear should be measured by the infallible rule of the inspired Scriptures. We need to remember that sincerity alone is not enough. One can be sincere, and be sincerely wrong.