Does the day of Christ ressurection tell us to worship on Sunday?

[Beta]

A guy I used to work for wasn't sure so he rested on Saturday and worshipped on Sunday.

Yes some people do that because they are confused or just like to make sure they don't miss either way.
With God we can not sit on the fence indefinitely, there comes a time to make a choice 1Kgs.18v21.

 

[Beta]

The point is, traditional Christians KNOW Sunday isn't the sabbath. It's not a matter of trying to change the sabbath. Christians worship on Sunday, because it's a tradition called the Lord's Day (the day Jesus supposedly rose).

And we all know what Jesus has to say about man-made traditions !!!
If WE think that our life is all about our OWN opinions ideas and views we will not get past the grave.
Human life is about BECOMING the children of GOD - obedient children who have yet to be educated in God's ways. That will never happen if we don't learn from Him and do as we are told Mat.18v3. :yes:

 

[Kathryn]

Like I said before, you can't pick and choose WHICH Jewish laws in the bible you are going to follow and which ones you aren't. If you are bound to the law, it's the WHOLE law.

So - do you eat only kosher foods? Do you keep all the Jewish holy days? Do you take rebellious teens to the town square and stone them? All those laws and many more are in the Torah and the Christian Old Testament.

THE NEW TESTAMENT AND THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK​

What we need to do is look at what transpired on the first day of the week and then look at the scriptural evidence for the assembly on the first day in the New Testament.

1. Jesus rose from the dead on the first day of the week after the Sabbath (John 20:1). He was the first fruit until eternal life others were also raised Mt.27:53. the resurrection is the capstone of our faith and the proving of the new covenant. he was raised for our justification.

2. Jesus appeared to ten of His disciples on that first day of the week (John 20:19).

3. Jesus waited one week, and on the next first day of the week appeared to the eleven disciples (John 20:26).

4. The promised coming of the Holy Spirit was fulfilled on the first day of the week, the day of Pentecost he was sent, (Pentecost by law came on the first day of the week (Lev. 23:16).

5. On the first day of the week the first gospel sermon preached by an apostle on the death and resurrection of Jesus was by Peter (Acts 2:14).

6. On that first day of the week the three thousand converts were united into the New Testament covenant separating from Judaism (Acts 2:41). While at the first Pentecost 3,000 were slain on this day God reversed it and instead they were given eternal life. The law kills the new covenant gives life.

7. On that same first day of the week the rite of Christian baptism into the Name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit was administered for the first time (Acts 2:41).

8. At Troas Paul preached to the assembled Christians on the first day of the weekThe only example of the Lord's supper being practiced on Sunday (Acts 20:6, 7). So did the churches of Galatia and Corinth.
9. Paul instructed the Christians at Corinth to make contributions on the first day of the week (I Cor. 16:2).Why did Paul specifically give orders to the church for this to be done on the "first day of the week." Offerings are a part of worship itself. Offerings are a part of our worship and since offerings took place on the first day of the week, wouldn't it make sense that worship also took place on the same day of the week. This is only day in the New Testament that commands Christians to give, they would have to be gathered to do so.
If Sunday was not an allowable day to worship or teach on then none of this would have occurred.
There is a biblical numerology in which 7 is the number of completion (of rest) the week is completed in 7 days. The number 8 is a symbol of new beginnings. Both days were used as In Ex.12. given at the same time.

No one ever changed the Sabbath day to SUNDAY​

The Sabbath commemorated a finished creation with rest. The first day commemorates a finished redemption and a new work.

The Sabbath commemorates Israel’s deliverance from Egyptian slavery and God resting on the 7th day. The first day commemorates Christ’s resurrection, victory over death and eternal punishment . It gives hope that all who believe will also be resurrected from the dead.

The Sabbath is a day of rest and quiet. The first day is a day of worship and praise. Sabbath means rest, not Saturday! There were other Sabbaths given to Israel on other days. The Sabbath was made for man to rest, God was telling Israel to keep the rest, their focus was not a day.

They changed the Sabbath to Sunday

 

[Renji]

Where did Sunday come in as a day of worship, was it from the ressurection, did Christ rise and tell the Disciples something that was not in scripture or did the change come from elsewhere. Some people say 'I keep Sunday in honor of the Resurrection' or they are told that the Apostles began keeping Sunday as the day of worship after the ressurection, but did they. Did the ressurection somehow cause a change to the day of worship?

Worship is the reason for the Sabbath. It is the only day God ever gave us to worship Him on. "In vain they do worship Me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."—Matthew 15:9. That which God gives us is the truth. We are to believe it and obey it. "Sanctify them through Thy truth: Thy Word is truth."—John 17:17. "Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth."—1 Timothy 2:4. "God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth."—2 Thessalonians 2:13. "Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit."—1 Peter 1:22. It is not safe to refuse obedience to the obvious truths of God’s Word. "He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination." Proverbs 28:9. "If any man willeth to do His will, he shall know of the teaching, whether it be of God."—John 7:17, R. V.

So what does the clear Word of God tell us when men come up with changes to what God has given us, or bring in tradition which go against Gods Law. "We ought to obey God rather than men." Acts 5:29.

So does the ressurection change the day of the Sabbath, well the problem is that God never told anyone to keep Sunday in honor of the resurrection of Christ—or for any other reason. But He decidedly and repeatedly told us to keep holy the seventh day of the week. What are the greatest events in history? Creation and Calvary and the Second Advent stand out. In Gethsemane on Thursday night and on the cross on Friday morning and afternoon, our salvation hung in the balance. By sundown Friday it was all settled. The price had been paid. The salvation of those who would accept it was assured. Then came the Sabbath day of rest, and Jesus our Lord rested in the tomb.

On Sunday morning, He rose and another work week began. Christ began working again. Mary was told not to detain Him for He had yet to ascend to heaven—which He did that day. A long trip to heaven and back again. And a visit to the fearful disciples on a road to Emmaus that evening and in an upper room where other disciples were hiding from the Jewish leaders. Frankly, the resurrection of Christ is in no way as important as is Calvary. Those who wish to abandon a clear command of God to keep the seventh day for another day, would do well to keep Friday holy in honor of Calvary.—But we keep a day holy because God says to, not because we decide to! Let us not imagine that we can abolish part of God’s Ten Commandments and substitute our own!

Someone will say "I wish we still had a memorial of Christ’s resurrection." Actually, Jesus gave us a memorial which combines His crucifixion and resurrection. And He commanded us to observe it.

This definite memorial is baptism. The death and resurrection of Christ are symbolized by the ordinance of baptism, and by partaking of it we partake of that experience with Him. This double symbolism is clearly explained by Paul:

"What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin [the breaking of the law; 1 John 3:4] that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? Know ye not that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ—were baptized into His death? Therefore we are buried with Him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father,—even so we also should [rise and] walk in newness of life. For if we have been planted [buried] together in the likeness of His death, we shall be raised also in the likeness of His resurrection. Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin."—Romans 6:1-6.

Some say that they keep Sunday because it is the "great memorial of our redemption." This is not true. The sign or symbol or memorial of our redemption is the Bible Sabbath. Our keeping of it is the sign by which all men shall know that we belong to God our Creator and that it is He, and not we ourselves, who is saving us from sin and will ultimately redeem us from this evil world. The seventh-day Sabbath is the seal of the law and the sign that He is our Creator (Exodus 31:16-17). And it is the sign that He is our Redeemer. "Moreover also I gave them My Sabbaths, to be a sign between Me and them, that they might know that I am the Lord that sanctify them."—Ezekiel 20:12. His Sabbath kept in our lives is the sign that we belong to Him. "And hallow My Sabbaths, and they shall be a sign between Me and you, that ye may know that I am the Lord your God."—Ezekiel 20:20. The Bible Sabbath is the sign given by our Heavenly Father, that He is sanctifying or preparing us for eternal life. "Verily My Sabbaths ye shall keep, for it is a sign between Me and you throughout your generations that ye may know that I am the Lord that doth sanctify you."— Exodus 31:13.

This was the Law of Mosses. But after Jesus has risen, the Christians started to assemble on the first day:
John 20:19-21 (King James Version)


"Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you."


1 Corinthians 16:1-2 (King James Version)



1Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye. 2Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.


Acts 20:7

And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

When Jesus came, the law has been changed. That includes the law of Sabbath.
Hebrews 7:12 (King James Version)

For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

The point is, traditional Christians KNOW Sunday isn't the sabbath. It's not a matter of trying to change the sabbath. Christians worship on Sunday, because it's a tradition called the Lord's Day (the day Jesus supposedly rose).

Hmm. I don't think that's quite true.

Not to pick on the Catholics (they just happen to have their rules easily searchable online), but the Catechism of the Catholic Church cites the Ten Commandments (specifically the third in their numbering, which matches the fourth in the numbering of most Protestant denominations) in their defense of mandatory mass attendance on Sundays.

 

[Beta]

Nice try Kathryn, the way scripture is presented seems quite plausible to the scripturally innocent if only they were all true.
To touch on the main error of traditional christianity Jesus did not rise on the first day of the week. That was merely the time the women found the tomb empty. That is a long way from saying Jesus rose on sunday but trad.christians have built their churches on that grave error and consequently none of the other scriptures read as you described them.
True scriptures tell a different story.
I will grant you that Pentecost always falls on a sunday but trad churches would not even know which one that is seeing they keep none of God's Holy Days or Feasts.
And why would you consider the sabbath a 'jewish' law when GOD gave it to all Israel and the Apostles taught it to the Gentiles ? God's laws are from God not from the Jews and are for all people .
I won't go into all the details of your mistakes because you would not believe anyway.

 

[Beta]

Another mistake from trad christians - the Sabbath is not merely a day of rest as first given in Genesis but was changed to an 'appointed time of holy convocation (assembly) to the Lord' Lev.23v3, and is listed right along with God's other Feast Days.
No scripture to tell us they were ever abolished - though some laws were. So the Sabbath and Holy Days have been days of worship for thousands of years and will be again when Christ returns - that's what scripture says.Isah.66v23, Zech.14v16.

 

[Draka]

In Europe as elsewhere, the first day of the week is Sunday. So I disagree with you there Kathryn.

Also the Bible says that God created the world in six days and on the seventh He rested, with the Qur'an having a variant of that. Nowhere do they (Bible and Qur'an) state however, which was the first day he started on and which was the seventh! He could've started on a Wed for all we know (that is if such a designation were to have existed at that point). We must remember that time is, for all intents and purposes, a man-made concept/constraint because we cannot truly comprehend the infinite.

Actually, if you view the six days of creation and the seventh day of rest as a "week" then one can base which day is suppose to be which depending on when one takes Pascha to be. If you celebrate Pascha on Sunday then that means Sunday is the first day of the week and Saturday is the last, and thus, the Sabbath. If anything comes into question it is the way of figuring Pascha.

 

[Beta]

Actually, if you view the six days of creation and the seventh day of rest as a "week" then one can base which day is suppose to be which depending on when one takes Pascha to be. If you celebrate Pascha on Sunday then that means Sunday is the first day of the week and Saturday is the last, and thus, the Sabbath. If anything comes into question it is the was of figuring Pascha.

You are right. Passover is the important date from which other Holy Days are counted and a Date is always given for it and not generally at the same time every year depending on the New Moon. I won't pretend to understand it all exactly , suffice it coming from GOD and not the Jews who ignorant people ascribe it to. They think that some scriptures originate from the Jews or are only for the Jews in which case they can then be accepted or more than likely be totally rejected.
It is not surprising scripture says this whole world is deceived. It is GOD who is in charge and not any Person/Persons/Nation/Religion etc,etc. :yes:

 

[Tanuki]

'In Europe (though not the UK), nearly all calendars start the week with Monday'

Kathryn I live in the UK and have done all my life - Sunday is regarded as the first day of the week!

 

[Tanuki]

Beta:-

No scripture to tell us they were ever abolished - though some laws were. So the Sabbath and Holy Days have been days of worship for thousands of years and will be again when Christ returns - that's what scripture says.Isah.66v23, Zech.14v16.

People believe that Christ has returned - Baha'is like myself believe he returned in the form of Baha'u'llah. To us, like Muslims, Friday is regarded as a holy day and was designated as such by The Bab.

 

[Smoke]

The Bible also mentions SUNDAY as the FIRST DAY

Where?

 

[Smoke]

I think the important thing is not whether you worship on Saturday or Sunday; the important thing is that you keep it down to one day a week. Then you've got the other six free for sectarian disputes.

 

[Smoke]

Kathryn I live in the UK and have done all my life - Sunday is regarded as the first day of the week!

In Germany and France, Monday is legally the first day of the week. I don't know about other countries. Monday is also the first day of the week according to ISO 8601 standards.

 

[Draka]

I've never seen a regular calendar that didn't start with Sunday. Only "business" calendars use the Monday start simply because of the work week being what it normally is. Matter of fact, if one just looks at the roots of the names of the days you have Sunday...sun rises...beginning. And you have Saturday, sun sets...ending. At least it's always made sense to me.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

I already explained to you why traditional Christianity worships on Sunday, and why we didn't replace the Sabbath. We know it's not the sabbath. If you continue this thread I think it's just because you want to bash and put down Christians who believe differently then you.

 

[Draka]

Where?

John, chapter 20. It tells that "on the first day of the week" Jesus was resurrected. Now, IF you take Easter to be on a Sunday, and according to John the resurrection happened on the first day of the week, then Sunday is the first day of the week and Saturday is the last day of the week. Now, I know there are some who observe an Easter Monday which would place Sunday as the last day of the week. I can't for sure say which is absolutely correct, but it does point out the inconsistencies of those who celebrate Easter on Sunday and yet observe the Sabbath on Sundays. It cannot be both.

 

[Kathryn]

I've never seen a regular calendar that didn't start with Sunday. Only "business" calendars use the Monday start simply because of the work week being what it normally is. Matter of fact, if one just looks at the roots of the names of the days you have Sunday...sun rises...beginning. And you have Saturday, sun sets...ending. At least it's always made sense to me.

Draka, in most European countries, the first day of the week is Monday, and Sunday is the last day of the week. And that's all I was saying. I didn't say it was that way in ALL countries, but in most European countries that's the way it is.

 

[Kathryn]

Kathryn I live in the UK and have done all my life - Sunday is regarded as the first day of the week!

Tanuki,

I'm wondering where the breakdown in communication is. I never said that in the UK, the week started with Monday.

What I said is that most European calendars have Monday as the first day of the week. That's a true statement. MOST of them do. I never said that the UK week starts on Monday.

My point was that if on a calendar, the first day of the week is Monday, that would make the last day of the week SUNDAY. And the question is - if large groups of people consider Sunday to be the END of the week rather than the BEGINNING of the week, what impact does that have on the concept that we should set aside the LAST day of the week for worship?

 

[Kathryn]

Year 2010 Calendar – Germany

There - look up the calendars of the countries of Europe and see how their weeks are laid out. Monday is listed first on nearly all of them (if not all - I got bored with checking all of them). Check out the one for the US - it starts on Sunday. The one for Uruguay starts with Sunday. The others are varied.

I'm just saying...