Dreams are different than reality, and dreams do not imply free will. This is all irrelevant to the topic at hand though.
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Does the non-existence of free will change your beliefs?
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Dreams are different than reality, and dreams do not imply free will. This is all irrelevant to the topic at hand though.
Intelligence means to select. Belief comes from beloved. Is love real if it is not freely given?
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We do select. The thing is that we select what we were made to select.
For example, computers select, but they do not have free will.
If free will doesn't exist then why grant it to god? God doesn't have free will to give.
We get to select wilfully.
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oh yes we do, we willfully select that which is predetermined that we will willfully select
Skwim
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The claim of many Christians not withstanding.
oh yes we do, we willfully select that which is predetermined that we will willfully select
How does one buy a car with Free Will if they prefer the color red?
If free will existed they'd likely choose a red car.
Free will seems kind of a necessity for God.
Do you think that something can actually 'will' itself into existence? If God simply existed was it by Gods own doing?
But the red influenced the will. So it cant be Free.
How does influence contradict free will?
If free will existed, influence may, well, influence it but the choices are still free. But free will does not exist, nor is this what the thread was meant to be about.
My take: you need outside influence in order to really have free-will and a sound mind. If everything your mind desires manifests, that's pretty close to what one might call delusion. If one was an omnipotent being, then what would be more precious and real than a gift of love, freely given, that was not dependent upon that being's omnipotent mind?
GawdAweful
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If free will does not exist, it will affect my beliefs exactly as the laws of the universe decide it will.
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I am not following. Free will does not exist. They prefer color red because of a mix of their life experiences and genetic predispositions.