Dog Eating

[Subduction Zone]

Nothing BS about it. The whole “dog eating” controversy is often invoked to target Asians. Maybe you’re aware of that. Maybe not. Either way, there was no BS.

That could be, but I do not see the OP or anyone else doing that here.

 

[Secret Chief]

True, but that won't stop them from rolling in.

Tbh I didn't consider that. I consider the forum distinction rather odd, but have requested it be moved.

 

[Subduction Zone]

One could consider the level of sentience as a guide. Octopuses are more intelligent than your average maga.

Oh oh! I like tako. And Caldo de Mariscos.

 

[exchemist]

This. Squids and octopi are quite smart, for example, while rabbits are kept as pets by many people. Who is to say eating those is not worthy of boycotts but eating dogs is?

A lot of these boycotts are highly culture-specific and based on purely subjective criteria, at the end of the day.

Indeed. I enjoy eating rabbit very much. These days, for climate change reasons I try to eat little beef and lamb and instead eat more of less CO2-intensive sources of meat (pork, poultry and rabbit). My rabbit, tarragon and mustard stew is a great favourite.

Eating a meat-eating animal would seem about the worst possible thing to do from a cCO2 viewpoint, seeing as the conversion efficiency to meat involved in raising any food animal is not very high. There is also a bit of taboo, probably to do with the risk of parasites in something that itself eats meat.

 

[Viker]

Yes. Vegan.

See. You have a pony in the race. I don't. A vegan can get away with it. I could advocate for better treatment. It would be best, for me(again), to do so universally.

 

[exchemist]

Well I'm not claiming to be an expert on the Swiss...but dogs don't need to eat meat, they are basically omnivorous scavengers, not obligate carnivores.

Like pigs? I had no idea. Why then do we feed them meat all the time?

 

[Father Heathen]

As heartbreaking as it is for me, I would be a hypocrite boycotting or getting proactive about others eating dogs. I occasionally dine on meat myself. Mostly chicken, beef, pork...yanno... typical American cuisine. It is heartbreaking, for me. There are likely others who experience similar emotions when I eat a cow or pig.

I've never known of a chicken to jump into water to save a drowning kid.

 

[Audie]

No. Anti-dog eating, and they're kept in miserable conditions. China just happens to be the biggest consumer. I consider it abhorrent wherever it occurs. So get off your BS racist pedestal.

Of course it's racist.
Trying to fault me is more of the same

We notice you didn't post a photo
of a " western" hog or chicken farm
and suggest boycotting the USA.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Indeed. I enjoy eating rabbit very much. These days, for climate change reasons I try to eat little beef and lamb and instead eat more of less CO2-intensive sources of meat (pork, poultry and rabbit). My rabbit, tarragon and mustard stew is a great favourite.

Eating a meat-eating animal would seem about the worst possible thing to do from a cCO2 viewpoint, seeing as the conversion efficiency to meat involved in raising any food animal is not very high. There is also a bit of taboo, probably to do with the risk of parasites in something that itself eats meat.

If you read the article there have been outbreaks in China of trichinosis from infected dogs, so the parasite taboo still applies today.

 

[Watchmen]

That could be, but I do not see the OP or anyone else doing that here.

One would hope not, but it does happen in society, so Audie’s response is not surprising.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Of course it's racist.
Trying to fault me is more of the same

We notice you didn't post a photo
of a " western" hog or chicken farm
and suggest boycotting the USA.

Perhaps the OP realizes that one cannot overturn meat eating in one single action. If one is opposed to meat eating it makes more sense to attack the most egregious forms of it first. Dog eating, whale eating, live animal eating. Then one could work on those that are the biggest threat to the environment such as the beef industry.

 

[Viker]

I've never known of a chicken to jump into water to save a drowning kid.

Careful. How many dogs attack children every year?

 

[Subduction Zone]

One would hope not, but it does happen in society, so Audie’s response is not surprising.

She did have a half decent claim about the boycott, but I do not take boycott urgings to seriously. China is an economic giant. A boycott of China is all but impossible. I can still oppose eating dogs without endorsing a boycott that would not do anything.

 

[Father Heathen]

Careful. How many dogs attack children every year?

Good point. Fry 'em up.

 

[Secret Chief]

Like pigs? I had no idea. Why then do we feed them meat all the time?

Well they like it I suppose! They're omnivores, not herbivores.

 

[Father Heathen]

Of course it's racist.
Trying to fault me is more of the same

We notice you didn't post a photo
of a " western" hog or chicken farm
and suggest boycotting the USA.

Regardless of what animal or what country, meat should be harvested humanely as possible.

 

[Secret Chief]

Perhaps the OP realizes that one cannot overturn meat eating in one single action. If one is opposed to meat eating it makes more sense to attack the most egregious forms of it first. Dog eating, whale eating, live animal eating. Then one could work on those that are the biggest threat to the environment such as the beef industry.

It all helps! It's not just about the economic sizes of particular markets, it's about raising awareness across the board. Imo.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Like pigs? I had no idea. Why then do we feed them meat all the time?

When it comes to feeding dogs, even though a meat may be the number one ingredient it is quite likely that they are fed more grains than meat. For example this is a copy and paste of the ingredients in a popular US dog food:

Chicken (Source of Glucosamine), Rice Flour, Corn Gluten Meal, Whole Grain Corn, Chicken By-Product Meal (Source of Glucosamine), Whole Grain Wheat, Soybean Meal, Beef Fat Naturally Preserved with Mixed-Tocopherols, Glycerin, Liver Flavor, Calcium Carbonate, Mono and Dicalcium Phosphate, Salt, Caramel Color, Dried Carrots, Dried Peas, Potassium Chloride, Vitamins [Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin (Vitamin B-3), Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate (Vitamin B-5), Thiamine Mononitrate (Vitamin B-1), Vitamin B-12 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement (Vitamin B-2), Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B-6), Folic Acid (Vitamin B-9), Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex (Vitamin K), Vitamin D-3 Supplement, Biotin (Vitamin B-7)], Minerals [Zinc Sulfate, Ferrous Sulfate, Manganese Sulfate, Copper Sulfate, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite], Choline Chloride, L-Lysine Monohydrochloride, Sulfur. X-4154.

 

[Watchmen]

Wacky logic.

Wonder if you would respond the same if the targeted group was black or Hispanic or LGBTQ rather than Asian???

 

[Subduction Zone]

It all helps! It's not just about the economic sizes of particular markets, it's about raising awareness across the board. Imo.

This late in my life I do not think that I could switch. But I have close relations that are almost exclusively vegetarian. And when I eat at their house I have no problem with the foods that they cook.