Subduction Zone
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The all too unpleasant article in the OP goes over some cases of that. If you have a lot of empathy for dogs I do not recommend reading it.
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Dog Eating
- Thread starter Secret Chief
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I wonder of people who severely abuse dogs
that way also abuse pigs, chickens, etc?
Subduction Zone
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They may. I do not really want to know. I can only take so much depression a day.
I can't find anything on the internet
about treating other animals this way.
But something I was aware of....
https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/why-scared-animals-taste-worse
Subduction Zone
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I have heard the same thing myself. I can't remember the details, since I do not remember for sure if we got this particular deer or not but when I was a kid my father was driving "up north" to visit his parents and a deer tried to take him out. It ran in front of his car and when hit its head went through the drivers side window. He got nicked in the neck by either an antler or some glass. The deer was not quite dead and he went to get a gun to put it out of its misery. All of that was okay. He got in a bit of trouble for taking the deer with him without reporting it first to a game warden. I do believe that we ultimately got the meat, but it was terrible.
We didn't domesticate dogs as livestock as we did with pigs and cows. We specifically bred pigs and cows to eat them, drink their milk, use their hides for leather, etc. Dogs were the first animals we domesticated as far as we know. Humans have a unique bond with dogs that have formed over thousands of years. It's much the same with cats and it's almost universally viewed as abhorrent to eat them, too. We created them to be our friends and helpers, not our food. So I don't see it as hypocritical at all.
Father Heathen
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Somewhat related: Gutter oil - Wikipedia
Dogs are carnivores like all canids. They can "get by" on a diet without meat in it, maybe, but it's not the best for them or what they should be eating.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
I agree.
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
Why (if people can kill other animals for food)?
Dog meat is considered a delicacy in Arunachal Pradesh (a state in Eastern India bordering China).
Audie
Veteran Member
Be kind to animals by not eating them
or putting them in cages.
Viker
Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
The particular breeds they use have been bred to be a food source. They're notably docile. We have breeds, that are popular, that were only bred for fighting not as actual pets. At one time pigs were wild, let a pig escape and when it becomes feral, it makes most dogs breeds seem like goldfish.
What I'm getting at, once again for me, is by not being a vegan getting too bent out of shape over the OP would seem slanted, biased and self serving. It really does that to me. It's understandable and relatable coming from others.
We domesticated all these animals for specific purposes, food is just one of the many purposes people have chosen for various animals. I hear that pigs can and do make great pets.
I have a policy. Don't give your food personal names, don't cuddle with your food and definitely don't play with your food. (Geez, I come off like that Terminus guy on the Walking Dead)
rational experiences
Veteran Member
In human history.
Humans began starving. Cattle became their choice of eating meat had died from disease mutated babies.
Life's biology shorter terms didn't own human bio immunity.
So humans ate weeds to stay alive. They even ate each other. Real history starvation.
So when you're starving you do very crass choices. Such as eat fruit that smells like s h I t.
Why they ate dogs as dogs have historically been humans companions. Same as cows were.
Like babies they love and trust us. Humans today treat cats dogs like babies as we always had. Intelligence awareness and feelings involved.
So as we have abundant food or can give food no intelligent animal should be murdered. Is what we now realise.
Yet we do.
Is a humans dilemma once we only foraged ate food.
Then we kept animals for eggs or milk as some women could not breast feed. Were secluded in a smaller human population and didn't have a sister to wet nurse their baby.
Dogs used to warn humans about predatory attack. It was an actual intelligent human choice to keep dogs near them.
Dogs of course ate meat. So they had to allow nature to be itself.
Which is how humans became involved in killing animals to feed dogs. Dogs were for protection of life versus humans predatory death.
So we should honour their service to our human life. Same as cats to keep plague portioned rodents Infesting gathered food supplies grains fruits nuts. Food our survival.
Natural law dealing with natural human living problems.
Then technology burnt out nature. Partially scorched animals was all they had left to eat. Is still seen today in old tribal cultures.
What you do as a human who attacked the ground they lived on and removed their owned food supply.
As per crop circle example.
Nukes water supply...fish died. Had a reward for doing evil some fish to eat whilst starving.....died anyway as fish flesh was tainted. Corrupted animals flesh real.
Lovely human life. Starvation the reason historic my choice to eat my companion.
Humans began starving. Cattle became their choice of eating meat had died from disease mutated babies.
Life's biology shorter terms didn't own human bio immunity.
So humans ate weeds to stay alive. They even ate each other. Real history starvation.
So when you're starving you do very crass choices. Such as eat fruit that smells like s h I t.
Why they ate dogs as dogs have historically been humans companions. Same as cows were.
Like babies they love and trust us. Humans today treat cats dogs like babies as we always had. Intelligence awareness and feelings involved.
So as we have abundant food or can give food no intelligent animal should be murdered. Is what we now realise.
Yet we do.
Is a humans dilemma once we only foraged ate food.
Then we kept animals for eggs or milk as some women could not breast feed. Were secluded in a smaller human population and didn't have a sister to wet nurse their baby.
Dogs used to warn humans about predatory attack. It was an actual intelligent human choice to keep dogs near them.
Dogs of course ate meat. So they had to allow nature to be itself.
Which is how humans became involved in killing animals to feed dogs. Dogs were for protection of life versus humans predatory death.
So we should honour their service to our human life. Same as cats to keep plague portioned rodents Infesting gathered food supplies grains fruits nuts. Food our survival.
Natural law dealing with natural human living problems.
Then technology burnt out nature. Partially scorched animals was all they had left to eat. Is still seen today in old tribal cultures.
What you do as a human who attacked the ground they lived on and removed their owned food supply.
As per crop circle example.
Nukes water supply...fish died. Had a reward for doing evil some fish to eat whilst starving.....died anyway as fish flesh was tainted. Corrupted animals flesh real.
Lovely human life. Starvation the reason historic my choice to eat my companion.
No, I'll keep eating meat. I eat a large amount of protein. Animals should be treated humanely, though.
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I understand your viewpoint. I disagree, though. I'm not sure if those "yellow dogs" (nureongi) in Korea were originally bred for the purpose, they just seem to be a native dog breed that they decided to eat, but I'm not sure. I know that dogs weren't all bred to be companions - they're working dogs, war dogs, police dogs, fighting dogs (like pits, which is what my dog is), etc. Regardless, I think this will end up being banned in China and Korea by the people themselves because there's more of an outcry from younger people over there about this. It's seen as backwards and embarrassing, especially as the middle class and younger people in those countries become more Westernized and keep dogs as pets. So I think that practice has its days numbered there. In the US, it's specifically banned to kill a cat or dog for food. So we can just hope that things change for the better, which they seem to be.
Wildswanderer
Veteran Member
I just can't understand why anyone would want to eat a dog. When I skin foxes or coyotes almost nothing eats them but vultures...canines just plain stink. Coon get eaten quicker, but the cats and chickens and dogs all prefer rodents like muskrat and beaver the best. There's prey species and predator species and in general, predators don't taste as good.
Audie
Veteran Member
You know they are not
Obviously. I know about horrific cases of animal abuse. I think people who purposefully torture animals should be executed. That's just sick.
Audie
Veteran Member
I'm not speaking of that.
Cattle lead a reasonanly decent life.
Not so for hogs and chickens.
There's no way for a knowing perrson
of conscience to eat either of those.
I support reforms to the factory farming and slaughterhouse industries for animal welfare reasons. I know what goes on there. I've seen the videos. I would like the food supply to be more localized and a lot of changes to happen, anyway.
Is this where I protest that your rules would prevent me from eating potatoes?
(Boom Tish)