Don't the Hinduism (Dharmic) people need a concise Scripture?

[Vinayaka]

The true approach of followers of Vedas is that whenever and where-ever I give a quotation from Yajurveda that I have read, but not finished yet, to give the Sanskrit Veda and as many as possible from other translations of their own denominations to alleviate or mitigate the effect of what has given by me. Right? Please
It is a lot more practical. Right? Please
Regards

So you know what the true approach of Hindus should be now? It is to behave in the same way you do, right? Since when have you been given any right to advise us on how we should approach things? What is practical is to get on with life as we know it, and not spend all of our time wasting by analysing scriptures. We have better things to do.

More om Max: http://www.salagram.net/MaxURdog.html

Max had good intentions too, but only a few decades later did we realise how harmful they were.

 

[buddhist]

We need to combine all the Stephen King books into one super-novel that has all his main points and themes.

... and then edit it for concision.

"Blood. Death! On the run. Suspenseful conspiracies. The end."

Saved you guys countless hours from having to read all those King books.

 

[Jainarayan]

Max had good intentions too, but only a few decades later did we realise how harmful they were.

He said something to that effect, but it was too late to retract, qualify or clarify what he was saying previously. By then "scholars" were off and running. Personally I think Max got a bum rap. But the damage was done.

 

[atanu]

The true approach of followers of Vedas is that whenever and where-ever I give a quotation from Yajurveda that I have read, but not finished yet, to give the Sanskrit Veda and as many as possible from other translations of their own denominations to alleviate or mitigate the effect of what has given by me. Right? Please
It is a lot more practical. Right? Please
Regards

Only if your intentions were noble.

That too it can be done by Satguru alone, for whom language is not a barrier or through absorption in perfect meditation. You have not understood what I said. Vedas are not the written books but is the shabda that permeate existence within and without.

 

[von bek]

He said something to that effect, but it was too late to retract, qualify or clarify what he was saying previously. By then "scholars" were off and running. Personally I think Max got a bum rap. But the damage was done.

He really can't catch a break. In Britain he was accused of being anti-Christian and attempting to spread pantheism.

 

[atanu]

There are four levels of speech – para, pashyanti, madhyama, vaikari. Human beings speak only the fourth level. The language we speak is vaikari.

Rig Veda 1.164.45 “catvari vak parimita padani tani vidur brahmana ye minishinah, guha trini nihita neengayanti turiyam vaco manushya vadanti”

The knowers know of the Vak (Word-Speech) that exists in four forms. Three are hidden and the fourth is what men speak.
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http://www.deccanherald.com/content/329144/four-levels-speech.html
https://auromere.wordpress.com/2009/07/09/vedic-vak-four-levels-of-sound/

http://www.advaita.org.uk/discourses/chittaranjan/advaita_chittaranjan.htm

Spoiler: Mystical Word

THE MYSTICAL REALITY

The nature of Reality is mystical. The magic of words plays upon the screen of non-duality and hold us enrapt to the siren songs of plurality. A word is essentially one with Brahman. That is para vak. It springs from Its living waters into the formless embryo - the pashyanti - the causal seed that is ready to sprout into manifest form. In its middling state - madhyama - it presents the forms in ideality before it springs into the luxuriance of the created world as vaikhari.

These are the four stages of Vak - para, pashyanti, madhyama and vaikhari. The mystery is that there is no difference in what it points to in all these stages, because if there were a difference, the word would not point to the same object in all its stages. We may give a name to this paradoxical nature of words and feel satisfied that we have found the truth, but the moment we attempt to determine its truth, it negates itself in the very determination. Difference arises through Vak, and yet there is no difference in its forms. Its difference is the mystery of its own 'difference', as it were, and the world springs into being in the womb of this great mystery. It is the heart of the mystical - the inexplicable power of the Lord to make many out of One while still remaining immutably One. That is His Maya. It needs the eye of a mystic to see the One in All and the All in One. It is the sahaja samadhi spoken of in Vedanta.

 

[paarsurrey]

Have you found a publisher yet?

No-publisher has yet approached me for publishing the proposed Compressed/concise/condensed Vedas. RF is a renowned forum, so the issue of its publishing must have been observed by the publishers. It will sell in millions, as it will have Vedas teachings in the words of the the scriptures translated by a Veda believer. If they approach me here, I will select one from them. It should not cost much so that poor Shudras, Dalits, and other Untouchables of India and elsewhere could afford it. The publisher should be from USA, to start with. This is as of now. There will be absolute no compulsion to read it. Any free soul may read it and benefit from it when compiled, Insha-Allah God/Brahman-willing. Right? Please
Regards
#229

 

[LuisDantas]

It will sell in millions,

No, it won't. Few people will have both the interest and the trust in the Vedas as reinterpreted by a Muslim perspective.

as it will have Vedas teachings in the words of the the scriptures translated by a Veda believer.

Veda believers are called Hindus.

 

[RabbiO]

Veda believers are called Hindus.

Darn, you've given him the answer before the quiz.

 

[Vinayaka]

No-publisher has yet approached me for publishing the proposed Compressed/concise/condensed Vedas.

Gee I wonder why. Such a brilliant idea too.

 

[von bek]

No-publisher has yet approached me for publishing the proposed Compressed/concise/condensed Vedas. RF is a renowned forum, so the issue of its publishing must have been observed by the publishers. It will sell in millions, as it will have Vedas teachings in the words of the the scriptures translated by a Veda believer.

This stuff stopped being funny about a week ago to me.

 

[Jainarayan]

I'm seriously entertaining the idea that we are being mocked (oh really, ya think?).

 

[Vinayaka]

I'm seriously entertaining the idea that we are being mocked (oh really, ya think?).

You maybe, but trust me I'm being deadly serious with this fellow. I'm seriously considering publishing his book. Would you like to be the editor? We can make millions. I will even call you 'editor-in-chief', if you want.

 

[Jainarayan]

You maybe, but trust me I'm being deadly serious with this fellow. I'm seriously considering publishing his book. Would you like to be the editor? We can make millions. I will even call you 'editor-in-chief', if you want.

I'm in... it's time I got out of IT anyway.

 

[Vinayaka]

I'm in... it's time I got out of IT anyway.

Goody goody. We shall make millions.

 

[LuisDantas]

A lesser man would propose making a Hindu commentary of the Qur'an.

Revenge is low. But it can be tempting, don't you deny it.

 

[Vinayaka]

A lesser man would propose making a Hindu commentary of the Qur'an.

Revenge is low. But it can be tempting, don't you deny it.

They (lesser men) do exist, unfortunately. But for most of us, it would never even come to mind. If we don't even consider our own scriptures as necessary in order to be good men, why in the world would we ever want to read another faith's scripture?

I can go meditate, make a garland, host friends for dinner, visit the grandchildren, or watch the Olympics.

 

[paarsurrey]

The Latest on:

Veda Scripture- The Compressed One

I wish that ordinary man should be facilitated to read and finish Vedas- the Scripture in a reasonable time frame , and people get spiritual guidance direct from the scripture itself, rather than from a third person.
Life being so busy, ordinary people cannot afford to read such a voluminous Vedic scripture, they will rather be thankful if such a concise/condensed/compressed scripture is compiled which could be finished if not in 30 days or a month, then at least once in a year. Quran could be finished in thirty days , if read a part of it in 30/45 minutes a day, just for information in this connection, please.

The planning is like:

1. Rigveda, is proposed to be kept as it is, as of now. I understand that it is about 1000 ± pages, not possible to read by a busy person, therefore, it also needs compression as is evident. The elite class of Brahmins wanted to create as many as possible obstacles to keep Veda out of reach of an ordinary man, it is one such obstacle. Rigveda is also to be compressed, therefore, however, references provided so that one who wants to go in detail could access them. Right? Please
2. Sam Veda which is a liturgical text whose 1,875 verses are primary derived from the Rigveda and only 65 new mantras/verses are there in Samaveda, so it should be compressed to 65 verses only and a footnote written on the verses in the Rigveda indicating that.
3.I am reading Yajurveda as one knows and now I nearing its end. It has total 500+ pages. I have found out that about some 50 or more verses are just repetition of the previous verses . These could be compressed for an ordinary man and only references provided in the original one.
4.I get a clue from post #18 , in another thread, that only a few verses on war/battles in Yajurveda should be mentioned in the compressed Yajurveda, though they form about 10% of Yajurveda, and the rest should be compressed. and only references retained, as this is against the contemporary Vedic readers, who hold Ahimsa as a basic creed of Veda, and that is a wrong concept. Right? Please
5.I get a clue from post #12 that the original, if there was/is one, should have the holy Sanskrit text side by side the translation to solve any ambiguity if the need be. That would require a two-fold compression, yet not impossible, if the friends who ascribe themselves to Vedas help us, as I don't know any Sanskrit as of now myself. Right? Please
6. We get from Yajurveda 15:13 “learn that part of the Veda which deals with the Unity of God” ONENESS of G-d.God and the attributes of God are most mentioned in Yajurveda, hence, these parts of Veda must be given preference over anything else #52. Right? Please.

Anybody, please

Regards

#228,229,230, 345, #315,#391,410,

 

[paarsurrey]

Hinduism has always been an umbrella term. To the point where some consider it an inaccurate term even!
There are millions of different flavours of Hinduism and yes there are actual athiestic schools within Hinduism. Not sure if any athiest Hindus on this site necessarily follow any of those particular sects. Maybe maybe not. Either way they're pretty prominent but probably better known in the West. Not because they are Western schools but because Athiests in the West are usually more vocal in their atheism. Where as many Athiest Hindus in the East won't really care to announce it. Hell many will actively go to Temple without batting an eyelash. Because that's just how Hindus roll.
Belief of God in Hinduism is not the best description. Hindus may call something God or Kali or Krishna or what have you. But the nameless formless timeless one (which roughly translates to the One True God) doesn't need to be a literal deity. It can be the Universal energy that makes up the world, the laws of physics and found within all life forms on earth. Hindus hope to "tap into" this energy. Whether that is taken to mean becoming one with God, trying to ignore the ego and become the "true self" or even just acknowledging this connection really depends on the specific Hindu.

Yes, it is inaccurate. I agree.
I have accordingly updated the plan of "Veda Scripture- The Compressed One" and omitted the world "Hinduism" to ascribe it with Veda #458 , one may please note.
Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

For my sect, and some others. the Agamas are also considered revealed scripture. I only know 2 atheist Hindus. One is here on this forum, and the other is a guy I know in real life. So I'm not sure really how many there are. The statistics here are skewed as our one atheist is quite vocal. Still, for the record, I don't think he is an atheist, just atheistic towards the Abrahamic God. By that definition, I'm an atheist too, as are most Hindus. It all boils down to whether or not we call Brahman God.

Presently I am engaged with Veda, later I could compress Agamas also, thanks for bringing my attention to it, God-willing Brahma-willing. The believers in Agamas have a good-tiding to note, but they should have patience.
Whatever name of One-God in any religion or language, the rest is decided on the attributes of Him. It amounts to the same, as Muhammad did not invent the word "Allah", it was already being used by the Arabs, even before Muhammad's birth. Quran gave the right, truthful and perfect attributes of Him. In fact, the whole Quran is just an explanation of the attributes of Allah in one circumstances or the other. Right? Please
Regards