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Dr Adnan Ibrahim on Emotional Atheism

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
What is the evidence of change of kind that Darwin gave ?

The fossil record was one of the first to be found. But in the century-plus since we developed a lot more, including whole lucrative research techniques that rely on its findings.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
People aren't stupid, they can fetch for the truth for themselves and they're responsible for their choices
and the loonies and the children are exempted.
Then, despite eariler claims, you do understand that theism is optional at best?
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
The fossil record was one of the first to be found. But in the century-plus since we developed a lot more, including whole lucrative research techniques that rely on its findings.
some others get an extinction

For your opinion loin actualy is big cat ?
but cat remain cats and loins remain loins during the time line.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
I am not interested in your strawmen.

The video is nonsense.
that YOU are relating the video to religion is most revealing.

Are you just lashing out blindly from a morally bankrupt high horse with your emotional rants to anyone who disagrees with you?
Sure looks that way from here.

Believe me I'm only telling the truth, it's a fact that religion is nonsense for some and similarly the ones who
speaks about religion will be speaking nonsense, just a fact and nothing else.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
So you agree that your video doesn't make sense unless you come to the video already believing in God?

I believe the video telling facts which you see it as nonsense since you don't believe in God.
I believe God does exist and this is a fact for me, for you it's nonsense.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Unthinking or thinking things can't do anthing without previous insert law and plan. who made the plan of schema ?

5:20
He said "it's probably fair to say it's plain that unthinking things can't move toward a goal love their own,thinking things can" !!!
this is bull****.

because he jumps the first step , who give the ability of thinking, or even creation..
Why does there have to be a "who"?

7:20
design is in everything , what seems perfect or not.what designed what is not , is non sense subject !!
But how do you know whether something is designed? You need to have a way to tell between designed and undesigned things.

If sonething was undesigned, how would you know?

7:50 He said "I agree with creation required creator ", then he said , how determined its was designed,"sorry this just insane .
I think you missed his point: once we have established that something is a creation, we can say that it was created by a creator. But what many religious people do is assume that something is a creation without good reason.

9:12 the complexity but simplicity , even cars can build own by simplicity. ( That's what Adnan Ibrahim called " give it a name " )
That's one area where Dr. Ibrahim's video seemed to make no sense at all. What do you see as the problem with "giving something a name"?

10:08 see the different between " bundle sticks , and beaver dam " sound like a crazy exemple to dishonet the point of designer.
it's like someone ask me the different between mirage in street , a water.
the beaver may would not live in bundle sticks.btw

Beavers don't live in beaver dams, either. They live in lodges - not the same thing.

11:53 he said "I find watch in beach , how I determine it's watch ?!!!" this exemple should be take him to madhouse.
It's obvious to us that a watch is designed, but it's useful to think about why this is so. Do you understand what allows us to identify a watch as designed?

15:48 Gravity is someting can't be touch or unseen, but you believe in , so why not God "designer"?
Because there's no evidence for God. Do you think that accepting that one invisible thing exists means we have to accept that every conceivable invisible thing exists?

17:47 in Quran its mentioned that God created a similaire to human being before Adam(pbuh).
God created many kind of birds , that does not forcely that all were one.
Sorry - I don't understand what you're trying to say here.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
I believe the video telling facts which you see it as nonsense since you don't believe in God.
You have it backward: I don't believe in God because every argument I've ever seen for God has failed logically.

I believe God does exist and this is a fact for me, for you it's nonsense.
There's no such thing as "a fact for me"; one of us is wrong. How should we go about deciding who is right and who is wrong?
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
some others get an extinction

For your opinion loin actualy is big cat ?
but cat remain cats and loins remain loins during the time line.
Speciation is not speculative. It is exceedingly well documented.

That you are not aware of the evidence does not make it any less so.

You may well decide that there is a Creator God and even that he meant for lifeforms to develop as they did and do. Or, for that matter, for gravity to be as it is. It is your belief.

But no one has to interpret the demonstrable facts of evolution and gravity as designs of a creator. The evidence for such simply hasn't been found and probably never will.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
I believe the video telling facts which you see it as nonsense since you don't believe in God.
I believe God does exist and this is a fact for me, for you it's nonsense.
In all honesty, I just don't see how anyone could make sense of the English translation that was presented in the video.

Whether one is predisposed to believe in God is not even a factor.

But if it were, then you would have to present a lot more respect towards atheism then you seem inclined to.
 
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