End Times?

[sun rise]

I don't believe in the so-called 'end times'. In fact I think things are better now than they ever were and getting better.

Typically those who speak of the "end times" believe in linear time.. The Hindu perspective is that time is circular with an iron age, Kali yuga, being superceded by a golden age, Sat yuga. And even further Hindus have larger and larger cycles culminating in the life of Brahma

• 1000 Mahā-Yugas = 1 Kalpa = 1 day (day only) of Brahma

(2 Kalpas constitute a day and night of Brahma, 8.64 billion human years)

• 30 days of Brahma = 1 month of Brahma (259.2 billion human years)
• 12 months of Brahma = 1 year of Brahma (3.1104 trillion human years)
• 50 years of Brahma = 1 Parārdha
• 2 parardhas = 100 years of Brahma = 1 Para = 1 Mahā-Kalpa (the lifespan of Brahma)(311.04 trillion human years)

In some people's view we are just now entering the 51st year of Brahma's life.

 

[George-ananda]

Typically those who speak of the "end times" believe in linear time.. The Hindu perspective is that time is circular with an iron age, Kali yuga, being superceded by a golden age, Sat yuga. And even further Hindus have larger and larger cycles culminating in the life of Brahma

• 1000 Mahā-Yugas = 1 Kalpa = 1 day (day only) of Brahma

(2 Kalpas constitute a day and night of Brahma, 8.64 billion human years)

• 30 days of Brahma = 1 month of Brahma (259.2 billion human years)
• 12 months of Brahma = 1 year of Brahma (3.1104 trillion human years)
• 50 years of Brahma = 1 Parārdha
• 2 parardhas = 100 years of Brahma = 1 Para = 1 Mahā-Kalpa (the lifespan of Brahma)(311.04 trillion human years)

In some people's view we are just now entering the 51st year of Brahma's life.

I have heard this stuff before but could never make sense of how this relates to humans on earth. I hear we are in the Kali Yuga and Krishna lived in the Dvapara Yuga ; Rama lived in the Treta Yuga, etc.. The timespans seems too astronomical and nobody has ever been able to explain this to me.

 

[Skwim]

The end times will be a reflection of the Bronze age . Having stripped the world of resources and the ensuing fight over the last of them, mankind will have been reduced to basic cultivation, limited animal husbandry, and small hope for anything better. I can see pockets of dictatorship continually fighting with each other to the betterment of no one.

 

[Father Heathen]

There is much talk today on the subject of end times, especially among Christians and Muslims. With this in mind I would like to invite my friends on this forum, whether they be Christian, Muslim, Hindu, or whatever faith or tradition you follow to share with us your views on this subject.

My view on the subject is that it's pure gobbledygook and poppycock.

 

[Sleeppy]

Time is relative.

 

[sun rise]

I have heard this stuff before but could never make sense of how this relates to humans on earth. I hear we are in the Kali Yuga and Krishna lived in the Dvapara Yuga ; Rama lived in the Treta Yuga, etc.. The timespans seems too astronomical and nobody has ever been able to explain this to me.

The system that makes sense to me has yugas within yugas. The smallest cycle does have Rama and Krishna as you stated. But inside that cycle of 4 yugas is a mahayuga a great yuga of many smaller yugas and so forth.

If you accept that formulation and we are in the first second of the 51st year of Brahma's life then the maha Kali yuga has ended and the new sat(golden age) yuga is just being born - that means that the darkness that people have lived through on Earth is ending and people will be happy for a long, long time.

 

[George-ananda]

The system that makes sense to me has yugas within yugas. The smallest cycle does have Rama and Krishna as you stated. But inside that cycle of 4 yugas is a mahayuga a great yuga of many smaller yugas and so forth.

If you accept that formulation and we are in the first second of the 51st year of Brahma's life then the maha Kali yuga has ended and the new sat(golden age) yuga is just being born - that means that the darkness that people have lived through on Earth is ending and people will be happy for a long, long time.

I'm impressed by your knowledge. Some day I should try to really understand what you are saying here. I have heard talk of this golden age coming soon too and then contradictory stuff about the low quality of people in this Kali Yuga and incredible time spans of past human cultures and I am in a whirl.

 

[sun rise]

I'm impressed by your knowledge. Some day I should try to really understand what you are saying here. I have heard talk of this golden age coming soon too and then contradictory stuff about the low quality of people in this Kali Yuga and incredible time spans of past human cultures and I am in a whirl.

I've spent decades learning various ideas. The yugas within yugas I have been writing about here is something I first was introduced to over a decade ago. So anyone with the interest I have and the time I've spent can learn this.

Much more important, to me, are the signs of things improving - lack of major wars, for one. In spite of the horrible things we see today, the number of major wars and deaths due to wars have waned dramatically since the middle of the 20th century. We've seen a major reduction in abject poverty around the world. Social entrepreneurs did not exist when I was growing up but today they are a force in making things better. And so forth. Of course life does not exist neatly with changes happening in a "straight" line.

I don't know if you are aware of it, but one documentary brought a lot of this home to me "The Man Who Saved the World" about how the actions of one man prevented a nuclear war which could have ended human life on Earth during the Cuban Missile Crisis. Nothing since then has come close to the danger we all faced then.

 

[wizanda]

"rumors of wars".

Though you do have an interesting valid point, in terms of hearing rumors of wars in the past....

Now though we're constantly bombarded with rumors of wars, like in 1984, 'we're always on the verge of the next major crisis somewhere'.

Typically those who speak of the "end times" believe in linear time..

I've experienced infinite time, and linear.... Yet still find the Satya Yuga, the Messanic age, Frashokereti, etc, similar in concepts, and before then is an age of ungodliness, which ends in destruction (end (of these) times).

 

[savagewind]

But if you survive it, it is not the end. Is it? Or perhaps the end has already come and gone, and we are he ones that survived. Or maybe the end has been happening ever since the beginning. Or maybe he concept has no real meaning at all.

Yes, I think like that. There is a thing in the Bible called the second death. That is the end of a person. I suspect it has been happening since the first swear.

 

[savagewind]

Maybe Christ's warning about The End means that the propensity of fear will replace hope over-all. Then people will be more apt to go to the end. Won't they? Where a person goes is where he is looking. Right?

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

I don't believe in ends, only transitions.

 

[sun rise]

Though you do have an interesting valid point, in terms of hearing rumors of wars in the past....

Now though we're constantly bombarded with rumors of wars, like in 1984, 'we're always on the verge of the next major crisis somewhere'.

I've experienced infinite time, and linear.... Yet still find the Satya Yuga, the Messanic age, Frashokereti, etc, similar in concepts, and before then is an age of ungodliness, which ends in destruction (end (of these) times).

The difference I suspect is that I believe we've already seen that end in the horrors of World War II through the Cuban Missile Crisis with a war that basically involved the entire human race in a fight between good and evil with millions upon millions killed and atrocities everywhere.

Of course people see it differently, but to me "winter" is gradually ending with the first shoots of "spring" appearing in spite of occasional wintry blasts of "cold air".

 

[David1967]

The difference I suspect is that I believe we've already seen that end in the horrors of World War II through the Cuban Missile Crisis with a war that basically involved the entire human race in a fight between good and evil with millions upon millions killed and atrocities everywhere.

Of course people see it differently, but to me "winter" is gradually ending with the first shoots of "spring" appearing in spite of occasional wintry blasts of "cold air".

I sure hope your right.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

Keep in mind life continued after multiple extinctions. Huge city-sized rocks can whack us and while life will certainly be different, it will continue.

 

[wizanda]

The difference I suspect is that I believe we've already seen that end in the horrors of World War II

Should read the letter from Pike to Mazzini, it dictated how world war 1 and 2 would be fought, WW3 is already planned the same.

Guess you partially believe the mainstream media, 'that politicians have our best interests at heart'...Try watching the secrets of the CIA, the Iron Triangle, etc.
[GALLERY=media, 7211][/GALLERY]
The only way to reverse the current path mankind is heading in, is for all people to recognize we're being lied to, and stand up against it.

 

[sun rise]

Should read the letter from Pike to Mazzini, it dictated how world war 1 and 2 would be fought, WW3 is already planned the same.

Guess you partially believe the mainstream media, 'that politicians have our best interests at heart'...Try watching the secrets of the CIA, the Iron Triangle, etc.
[GALLERY=media, 7211][/GALLERY]
The only way to reverse the current path mankind is heading in, is for all people to recognize we're being lied to, and stand up against it.

The mainstream media is something I don't believe in with occasional exceptions. The alternative good news media such as http://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/ is the source of a lot of what I see as positive developments. The positive trends are mostly ignored especially by the politicians and media who live off fear and anger.

 

[outhouse]

There is much talk today on the subject of end times, especially among Christians and Muslims. With this in mind I would like to invite my friends on this forum, whether they be Christian, Muslim, Hindu, or whatever faith or tradition you follow to share with us your views on this subject.

100% mythology with no credible basis in reality.

To date every person who has ever made a claim supporting such, has been factually wrong. Many dates have been provided, and every last one failure.

 

[serp777]

Disease, crime, starvation, child death, cancer, etc is down all over the world. This is the best time to live in all of history in terms of survival probability and quality of life. Wars in the 21st century are also relatively non existent compared to 500 years ago.

If anything we're in the golden age of information right now-- a time when the world is going to hit a techological singularity and be changed for the better forever.

The end times are a religious propaganda tool used to instill fear in people. Those religions which can make people fearful and repent are the most successful and so ones with an apocalypse prediction have survived. The most probable way the end times will occur is if religious nut jobs get their hands on nuclear weapons and cause a self fulfilled prophecy.

 

[Useless2015]

100% mythology with no credible basis in reality.

To date every person who has ever made a claim supporting such, has been factually wrong. Many dates have been provided, and every last one failure.

That's because noone knows.


Bible

Matt. 24:35-37, "Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words shall not pass away. 36But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone. 37For the coming of the Son of Man will be just like the days of Noah."



Quran:


"And blessed is He to Whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all between them: with Him is the Knowledge of the Hour (of Judgment): and to Him shall ye be brought back. (The Noble Quran, 43:85)"