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End Times?

Rachel Rugelach

Shalom, y'all.
Staff member
Below, I've quoted from Conservative (or Masorti) Judaism's statement on "the end times." I put in bold text the part which I believe is most significant -- that it's up to each of us to work hard to make a heaven on earth. I personally believe that this present-day work is more worthwhile than speculation on when exactly "the end times" will occur.

"Since no one knows what will happen 'in the days to come' each of us is free to fashion personal speculative visions of the future. In no other area of Jewish thought is dogmatism less justified and hence more hazardous. Though some of us accept these speculations as literally true, many of us understand them as elaborate metaphors generated by deep-seated human and communal needs and woven together out of Judaism's most intuitive values and commitments. Thus, if Judaism's 'age to come' is an age of universal peace and social justice, it is because our Torah commands that we strive to create that kind of social order in the here and now and because our prophets railed against our ancestors' failure to do so in their own day. To refer to these doctrines as metaphors in no way diminishes their significance, their value or their impact on our lives. No human being can live without a dream. As Conservative Jews, then, we affirm the substance of classical Jewish eschatological thinking. Its central thrust is that in partnership with God, we can create an ever more perfect social order — not inevitably, not steadily, and perhaps not in our lifetimes — but eventually, and with the proviso that we strive to the extent of our ability to help bring it about."


Quoted from Emet Ve'Emunah (אמת ואמונה) "Truth and Faith"
 
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Eddi

Christianity
Premium Member
it's up to each of us to work hard to make a heaven on earth. I personally believe that this present-day work is more worthwhile than speculation on when exactly the "the end times" will occur.
That's what I think too

But I also believe it will all at some point come to an end and that the end will have something to do with God
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
For the purposes of discussion imagine that God is someday going to somehow put an end to the world.....

According to your religious beliefs what exactly do you expect to happen?

Eschatology is not one of my strong points and I'm more than a little confused about Christian teachings on the matter and as far as I can see there are many different and conflicting views within Christianity as to what exactly will happen

But how do you (no matter what your religion is) think God will end the world? - and why do you believe what you believe?

And are there currently any signs to be seen that may suggest The End is approaching?

I have started watching YouTube videos about it to educate myself :D

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My understanding.

End of the old world and the old way of doing things and the birth of a new world with new laws for this age. We all must die one day so our own individual world is continually dying and being born with new births.

So in the old world physically it was horse and buggy. Today it’s jet planes and the internet.

Multiculturalism and interfaith are also new attitudes and social realities being born today leaving behind superiority and exclusiveness. It’s a gradual process of the death of the old world and the birth of a new reality.

The superstitious interpretations is that the world will be destroyed and only certain people will be saved which I believe to be fallacious.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
When a certain man dies the world will end then begin again with his rebirth and on and on it goes. This is my reality.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Climate change, nuclear war, take your pick.

As I clarified with the person I was originally responding to, I don't equate "the world" with humanity. Neither climate change nor nuclear war would actually end the world. Probably wouldn't even end humanity for that matter.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
People have been saying "the end is nigh" since before living memory - certainly before written language. It's kind of a morbid preoccupation, IMO. People in the USA are especially fearful of the prospect, and folks like Jim Bakker make a comfortable living by preying on those fears
Its quite a hobby isn't it? Heh.
 

Rachel Rugelach

Shalom, y'all.
Staff member
That's what I think too

But I also believe it will all at some point come to an end and that the end will have something to do with God

As I also believe. There is a traditional belief in Judaism that each generation gives birth to an individual who could be the Mashiach (Messiah), but we wouldn't know who that person is unless God decides that the time is ready for the Mashiach to appear to everyone and usher in the Messianic Era. When that time comes, it won't be the sort of apocalypse that some people imagine -- all death and destruction. Instead it will be an era when evil will no longer exist in the world. Even though we are assured that this shining era will eventually arrive, that should not stop us from striving today to make the world we live in the place of goodness and kindness that we yearn for at some point in the future.
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
For the purposes of discussion imagine that God is someday going to somehow put an end to the world.....

According to your religious beliefs what exactly do you expect to happen?

Eschatology is not one of my strong points and I'm more than a little confused about Christian teachings on the matter and as far as I can see there are many different and conflicting views within Christianity as to what exactly will happen

But how do you (no matter what your religion is) think God will end the world? - and why do you believe what you believe?

And are there currently any signs to be seen that may suggest The End is approaching?

I have started watching YouTube videos about it to educate myself :D

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My theology informs me that God isn't a failure and isn't Going to end the world. It is my faith that the Gospel of the Kingdom will eventually subdue mankind and usher in an age of "Light and Life", peace on earth and goodwill among men.
 

Dave Watchman

Active Member
According to your religious beliefs what exactly do you expect to happen?

I think that's a good question. Still, a better question might be WHEN we expect it to happen?

The same One who said:

"But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only,​

Also said:

"if the master of the house had known in what part of the night the thief was coming, he would have stayed awake and would not have let his house be broken into.​

But how do you (no matter what your religion is) think God will end the world? - and why do you believe what you believe?

According to my own read on it, right before it happens, we are supposed to be silent about it. Be silent before the Lord.

"Be silent before the Lord GOD! For the day of the LORD is near;​

"Be silent, all flesh, before the LORD, for he has roused himself from his holy dwelling.”​

Even in heaven:

"And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.​

And are there currently any signs to be seen that may suggest The End is approaching?

I say yes.

There's prophecies in Daniel and Revelation. But there's also 18 prophetic time periods. Finding these time periods can force which doctrine is correct. The prophetic time periods can show WHEN it's happening, it's only then we can be sure WHAT is happening. Price action makes for market commentary. Trade the charts, do not trade a story. Because there's a lot of stories out there.

Find the 5 months of Revelation 9, and I'll show you WHAT the scorpion sting is. Find the 7 and 62 weeks in our modern day, I'll tell you WHEN to expect the second coming of Messiah the Prince.

I have started watching YouTube videos about it to educate myself :D

A couple guys make a case for it to begin this year.

That guy from S. America thinks this year and into the fall 2026.

This guy thinks 2023 to 2030.

Long video, but you can start it at the 30.00 minute mark for the meat and potatoes.


I think it's started already, and is happening now.

The prophecy expositors of the past just had no way to recognize these events prior to their occurrence.

Peaceful Sabbath.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
My brother's choice theist scientist machine man.

Promised no nuclear science from past Jesus life attacked... lied.

First water in space by law is very hot.
First in life water on earth cooled kept cooled by saviour ice.

My brother wants is all thesis space infinity laws...no earth created no heavens existing in his theories.

His first.

Status memory his own... when I destroyed origin life back to carbon law exact no living biology. I know as I used all those giant pyramid memories as my Moses then Jesus advices.

I remembered I activated universal change then also as thoughts a powerful man human on earth and machines all involved in the thesis.

So my real spirit father in America told me don't go into space. Warned me my mind would become self possessed lying.

You prove you want to leave earth by man's machinations built as rockets.

Possession of mind he said by history the satanist man.

So now left the earth constant is your satellite machine which breaks into above heavens possesses all beliefs.

As status law agreed world community no beginning no end.

Science says a controlled circuit by man with machines.

In space laws metals leave earth as space owns the pressures from molten metal to pressurised cold metals. So it leaves to its law equals answer by infinity position holding the metal.

Man today theories I want to leave earth for good. Told you all as theist science man. Old men said it's his confess of Sion law breaking.

Metals leave by laws above...UFO status controlled by laws...are very ancient and he doesn't own it today.

He theoried I want it now myself.

His machines theory reaction new doesn't even exist in Infinities owned natural past laws.

He wants UFO mass held to new machine as all laws overcome. By his control using man's scientists memories only.

Exact reason he never listened to father.

American father as spiritual advice. As a daughter told me all he knew. Already owned his guidance beliefs as I have several statements our American father believed in. As spiritual advice...guidance.

Natural father correct father about nature and life on earth laws.

I'm getting his last warnings before you take by science all humans back to mutated life and no science. As man's position thesis is not earth science as theories.

As when modern man says I control science myself being practiced science.... it's not back to healthy first life humans as memory natural first back in time. It is in science only to mutated human.

Mind told exact as first consciousness. The no science of man point marker thought history no science of man yet living as man. Theist lying by greedy want ignores consciousness of all humans and always had. Natural law.

All reasons known are told and many humans died for this message... sacrificed life now....yet as you care less family is not United. So we failed ourselves.

True story about the human man destroyer and his brothers who you all supported. The greedy man destroyer of life.

You knew. You taught. You ignored.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
As theoried by man's memories today new ideas about old nuclear mass removal. By his man's choices only. Predicted inherited returned satanic man Behaviours.

As only satanic man ruled life on earth by civilisation. Has never changed since takeover.

Not a God man ever.

By power plant causes to remember the end only act. Disintegration of new dusts by man of science causes. Dusts had returned by his sun theories.

Sun law owned dusts on earth first.

Dust originally given to earth mass by sun. No sun theory's allowed a reality in humans legal.

Man's god agreement I'm shifting the mountain mass again agreed in theory. Jesus event. I had returned it to dusts myself. As dusts was suns beginning on earth and is its end cause my nuclear.

When melt cold earth mass natural history was removed. I did ashes first. Combustion of biology.

So mother space took away body UFO heat into cold pressurised melt. Space womb. Mother took sacrificed body away. Hole already caused cave in ground position.

Jesus event.

Like man's machine history.

Men Re birthed it as his machine body from dusts his metals...from a broken law already by the sun. So UFO had to now cool above now like man's metal mass had as man's own science gain a machine using our life's water.

History laws cooled metal presence was by Infinite. Space owned Metal law. Why UFO is like a machine now and not laws.

Men knew even told you they did causes in thesis about metals history.

He said in Moses testimony he used that advice again...became aware in Moses incident of cave hole in side of mountain attack...cave side of mountain gods body flesh had been pierced at side.

Jesus event was at below his feet.

So he actually re told old reasons about why caves came about in side of mountain. By science causes. Why he put the same cave at side into the ground. Jesus causes took it away from mountain.

Hadnt pierced side of God as Jesus he was reiterating why cave in ground opened. Old plus new total review why science of men is purely evil. Why men said but Jesus was the same as yehovah.

Why men of science said tell it as two histories not one you liars of science.

They chose Jesus claiming Moses was now safe. Why they claimed Jesus was pierced at side cave plus cave at feet... warnings don't ignore what you caused scientist.

Science today said I'll do cave position as it's history I themed is safe. Build new machine. Same theism.

His ownership science causes ...it's new using conscious advice. .memory only. I'll do Jesus causes.

Sin opened at feet again in experiment as new holes proof he knew what he calculated for. New caves.

Just Jesus he said as I want to still exist as mutated man. As his brain mind is factually not returned as man theist origins. Consciousness. Abiding it.

In reality he wants Moses attack too into machine body. Yet he knew it's safe as the Moses attack on earths mass. As it had stopped only the advice. As had Jesus.

His now intent not to stop it.

Yet he claims I'm using the science saving moment...hole stopped no resource.

So then he takes his thesis into space ignoring both Moses testimony and Jesus claiming it's not science. Yes that's right it's a scientific testimony I caused it. Knew.

It's God earth history as science. He says claiming hes a sane scientist. I'm using numbers correctly he says..science. First returned scene of crime a crime as theisms. AmericA.

Ending what he wasn't previously successful about. As he knew sacrificed biology humans origin had returned. From a man's memory scientific caused human combustion ashes. Carbon by science only controls.

Old origins life just carbon the law bio ended position as carbon now he wants it as his beginning which is life's end.

His origin theist intention was total shift off life's body off earths body the planet. Time transported by his machine temple pyramid.

All UFO warnings is the pyramid thesis. How he caused it to be removed off earths face. By invention not transport.

Leaving by machine position.

Science argues no I want to leave by other machine I control the rocket ship. Ship moves like earths O planet ark. I'm in control lying mind.

Three machine themes.

UFO machine of sun made all bio life leave.
He builds rocket himself to leave.
Rebuilds technology for UFO biology leaving.

In middle places his rocket leaving as his controlled position as his personal safety position...lying all about science leaving biology posession of mind.

First he claims we are metals in space only Ai theism for machine only. He built it first as a machine only.

Possessed mind is our correct advice.

Total life's obliteration the giant pyramid thesis of origin earth. Is now I'll begin in space thesis ignoring I caused Moses Jesus as it's not science says a scientists conscious mind.

Science is position earth with sun first. In space history how to by inventive law convert any mass.

Total argument is the human scientists.

Only correct human is the sacrificed returned bio memory conscious spiritual human. Now present the gift of life self. Aware.

Science argues against natural human continuance is our truth.

Science man argues science man claiming only science is truth is lying.

Is the human con on earth warnings.

It ended as law carbon aim all life destroyed. By his invention of it.

Moses and Jesus hadn't completed his thesis.
 
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rational experiences

Veteran Member
In life man consumes carbon mass coal to get electricity.

Answer I only want electricity in my machine position react an act. New now. Yet it's old advice his owned about electricity. Not laws...just man's used memory.

He uses cold gases.

Laws space own two coldest positions infinity nothingness and coldest gases heavens as two laws own lightning.

In cold gas.

How does just a human theist by theory claim I can overcome infinity?

I must own the control of overcoming lightning colder into just electricity. A man's answer in his conscious thoughts.

Where my idea about electricity first came from...heavens laws.

No carbon either. As he consumes it.

So he says I'll end life biology as position electricity is a Confession of intent.

As he hadn't theoried for life past heavens electricity existing.

Is why you do a healers review of man the theist baby life man adult.

As he lied to our holy spiritual first father.

Rock in space no heavens is earths origin I nfinity only science position.

Coldest history earth science laws.

Then volcanic eruption introduced heat from mass.

So coldest for earth as a history is always the same answer....no heavens mass first.

The intention to invent...to remove real laws first replace it with my inventive theory.

One day after I burnt out all heavens mass it might return colder and just produce electricity not lightning. As infinity gained.

To invent by conditions a human as the egotist.
 

soulsurvivor

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
For the purposes of discussion imagine that God is someday going to somehow put an end to the world.....

According to your religious beliefs what exactly do you expect to happen?

Eschatology is not one of my strong points and I'm more than a little confused about Christian teachings on the matter and as far as I can see there are many different and conflicting views within Christianity as to what exactly will happen

But how do you (no matter what your religion is) think God will end the world? - and why do you believe what you believe?

And are there currently any signs to be seen that may suggest The End is approaching?

I have started watching YouTube videos about it to educate myself :D

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Usually when we talk about the 'End Times', it does not mean the 'End of the World' but the 'End of the World As We Know It'. That means the complete transformation of the world into something new, not a complete destruction of the existing world.

Here is a website that examines the 'End' from different perspectives: Judgment Day - Apocalypse
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Man of science.

Earth only lived memories as man of science theories. His science origins of man of science is only earth based.

Total man's scientific human memories was never about out of space.

Origin earth known life ended but saved at carbon point. All archaeological instant snap fused moment as jewel artefact in coal machine parts fused proven. Saviour but no ice for bio existence...cold water.

Isn't his thesis now.

He wants origin space moment hot dense space mass but lives at earths point mark evolution it's coldest. Now.

Knowing only all the coldest advice allows biology to exist now. Science men natural aware says only biology owns evolution.

Theist lies saying biology directly owns coldest energy mass as biology.

He does not want biology to own it's evolution as not the coldest space moment now.

He says I'll take it away from evolution.

Native American symbol key swatstika... Hitler's key sign German bankers industrialist sign too. Returns to America.

However money safety idea Switzerland sound of music returned theme. New science model. Where money is safe..not where life is safe.

He wants resources mass to own it. Evolution. Not bio life on earth.

Law reaction point mark practice of his sciences only now is inside my machine body. I control the machine only.

Reasoned nuclear plant mind possession opens into old infinite hot space as hot dense space by man's science controls.

He knows he controls it.
He knows it's to earths mass only.
He knew space law stopped earths destruction at carbon moment.
Wants it activated past it. Core theories.

Sun law bored holes into crystalline earth mass origins. Father said left two earth layers crystal only.

Converted mass converting is by equals hot dense mass sun left earth a cold dense mass after as earth was colder than a sun.

Two bodies of mass in one attack.

Why caves stopped not a bored tunnel.

Earth saved new given metals as iron core. Met in middle. Crystalline mass presence saved earth from exploding.

Earths M space middle core is iron heart only knew scientists.

Theists claim M middle hot dense out of time. Nuclear event.

M is not heavens space middle. As a hot dense gas took in more space to be thin clear gas. Atmospheres middle is a gas not alight.

Theories M 1000 number 13 falsely.

Theist does not want earths fused iron metal cold core in space. Wants it opened as cause hot dense metal UFO mass. Suns origin mass point mark. To use it.

So all caves he wanted reopened by above sun mass new fall to complete bore hole opening of Jesus caves by invention. Not history Jesus saved us.

To open iron earth core into hot dense space. Sun metals history. Origin point about mass only.

To blow up as his invented earths position mark into his theory earth of a black hole coldness mark plus some gases just dusts. Infinity answer.

As he claims earth is just a star. Not a planet mass.

God theists knew earth's heart is iron as is our human blood cell health dependant on iron and cold only fused earth sun metal.

Why all new nuclear outcomes are new cell blood bone cell defects cancers and sacrificed causes in any biology.

As it's already happening by new nuclear. Warned it isn't a thesis old biology sacrificed to study how I get Jesus returned. Before Jesus was stopped.

New not old but as Nuclear re opened to hot metal radiations core itself. By man's control all theoried as man's controlled causes.

Machine control isn't any space history laws. Why they blow up nuclear plant one by one overheating.

Old nuclear is cold in space laws.

New nuclear isn't.

Symbols coded state by man's choice it's now locked back in by term a keyed man's returned choice. Origin science giant pyramid America.

Only man's science uses symbols.

And it's not the symbol that causes it...it's the choice.

Law America's attack back to carbon earth was stopped.

Money not in America.

Quite happy to do a Nazi choice to America as a small new world yet alien human community.

Our American native indian father's warning as invaded. History by greedy humans wanting new resources.

History science traced back to Rome.

Jesus Stonehenge causes.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Ice thesis saved mind biology memory versus American.

Indian Vedic blew up technology.
Mayan American blew up technology.
Egyptian blew up technology.
China blew up technology.

Changes...devils triangle.
Devils sea...Japan.

Ground mass eruptions everywhere.

When methane gas was earth released by carpenter tectonics again.

Indian father American knew dangers.

European English lives in saviour win..winTer ice snow.

No history a memory of warnings.

Of just men. Just humans.

Why American Indian father's advice is correct.

As memory is aligned to genesis human DNA reborn returned then lived anew as old memories.

Consciousness hence can lie to itself as proven. As human memory is always used in new choices.
 

The Kilted Heathen

Crow FreyjasmaðR
Humanity will likely end by it's own hand, choked to death by our own greed. Even if we destroy the planet's habitability, She will recover as She always has. We are not so powerful yet to be planet-killers. The sun will destroy our world - SurtR burning Yggdrasil - long after we are gone. Further still, the Universe as a whole will stretch too thin, and die cold in endless void.

Scientifically speaking:
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
For the purposes of discussion imagine that God is someday going to somehow put an end to the world.....
According to your religious beliefs what exactly do you expect to happen?
But how do you (no matter what your religion is) think God will end the world? - and why do you believe what you believe?
And are there currently any signs to be seen that may suggest The End is approaching?....................]

First of all, the Earth abides forever - see Ecclesiastes 1:4 B; Psalms 104:5
So, Earth will Not end, rather the end of the world of badness will end.- 2 Timothy 3:1-5,13
I expect there will be more international proclaiming about God's Kingdom as Jesus said at Matthew 24:14; Acts of the Apostles 1:8
Because the work is now done on a vast global scale shows we are at its ' final stage ' or 'final phase'.
As to how? 1st Thessalonians 5:2-3 gives us a signal to watch for that the time is coming when the powers in charge will be saying, " Peace and Security..." as the 'final signal' or precursor to the coming great tribulation of Revelation 7:14,9.
That Rosy saying can lead people down that so-called Primrose Path instead of God's Kingdom - Daniel 2:44-45.
Jesus as King of God's Kingdom will take the action as found at Isaiah 11:3-4; Revelation 19:14-15
The ' sword-like executional words from Jesus' mouth ' will rid the world of the wicked - Psalms 92:7; 104:35
Whereas, the figurative humble ' sheep' at Jesus' coming Glory Time (Matthew 25:31-34,37) will be saved/ delivered/ rescued - Isaiah 26:20
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
My understanding. End of the old world and the old way of doing things and the birth of a new world with new laws for this age.
We all must die one day so our own individual world is continually dying and being born with new births..........

Yes, up to this time we all must die, but I find Jesus is coming to bring an end to 'enemy death' - 1 Corinthians 15:26
Jesus said to pray (ask God) that His will be done one Earth as it is done in Heaven........
There is No death in Heaven, No tombstones in Heaven, No sickness in Heaven, No war nor violence in Heaven.
So, we are asking God for those same good heavenly healthy conditions to come and exist on Earth.
Enemy death will start to come to its end at Jesus' coming Glory Time of separation on Earth - Matthew 25:31-34,37.
The figurative humble 'sheep' can remain alive on Earth, and continue to live on Earth and are here on Earth to see calendar Day One of Jesus' coming thousand-year governmental reign over Earth with the prospect of having everlasting life in view, eternal life on Earth, and Earth that will be free from enemy death - Isaiah 35th chapter.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Usually when we talk about the 'End Times', it does not mean the 'End of the World' but the 'End of the World As We Know It'. That means the complete transformation of the world into something new, not a complete destruction of the existing world...................

I like how you say ^ above^ a complete transformation of the world into something new...........:)
Transformed because the wicked will be No more - Psalms 37:38; Psalms 92:7; Psalms 104:35; Proverbs 2:21-22.
The executional words from Jesus' mouth will rid the Earth of the wicked - Isaiah 11:3-4; Revelation 19:14-15
I find three (3) worlds mentioned at 2 Peter 3:5; 2 Peter 3:7; and 2 Peter 3:13
In verse 5 we find the heavens and earth of OLD ( Noah's time frame )
In verse 7 we find the heavens and earth of NOW ( from Noah's time to our now time frame )
In verse 13 we find the heaven and earth of NEW ( Jesus' thousand-year reign over earth - 1 Corinthians 15:24-26 )
NEW will look healthy as described in Isaiah 35th chapter when No one will say, " I am sick....." - Isaiah 33:24
NEW because Jesus will bring ' healing ' to earth's nations - Revelation 22:2
NEW because even 'enemy death' will be No more on earth - 1 Cor. 15:26; Isaiah 25:8
 
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