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End Times?

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URAVIP2ME

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ADigitalArtist said:
....................Other people might find that no comfort at all but for me it's just a reminder to have realistic expectations and focus on the here and now and what I can effect instead of worry about the inevitable end. Especially since I'll probably be gone long before that point anyway.
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Seems to me Jesus did focus on the ' here and now ' of his time without worry about any inevitable end. - Luke 4:43
Since the first century many are long gone, but those of us still alive on Earth at Jesus' coming Glory Time as found at Matthew 25:31-34,37 the inevitable is the beginning instead of the end.
We are all invited to pray the invitation to God for Jesus to come ! - Rev. 22:20
Come to end wickedness - Isaiah 11:3-4; Rev. 19:14-15 - but Not to end righteous mankind - Psalm 37:9-11.
'You may Not be gone' for when the powers in charge are saying, " Peace and Security...... " (1st Thess. 5:2-3)
that Rosy saying is really leading people down that old Primrose Path instead of the coming end to wickedness on Earth.
We can all focus on 'what I can effect' instead of worry and look to Jesus as a model or example to follow.
 
ADigitalArtist

ADigitalArtist

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URAVIP2ME said:
Seems to me Jesus did focus on the ' here and now ' of his time without worry about any inevitable end. - Luke 4:43
Since the first century many are long gone, but those of us still alive on Earth at Jesus' coming Glory Time as found at Matthew 25:31-34,37 the inevitable is the beginning instead of the end.
We are all invited to pray the invitation to God for Jesus to come ! - Rev. 22:20
Come to end wickedness - Isaiah 11:3-4; Rev. 19:14-15 - but Not to end righteous mankind - Psalm 37:9-11.
'You may Not be gone' for when the powers in charge are saying, " Peace and Security...... " (1st Thess. 5:2-3)
that Rosy saying is really leading people down that old Primrose Path instead of the coming end to wickedness on Earth.
We can all focus on 'what I can effect' instead of worry and look to Jesus as a model or example to follow.
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My interpretations of those scriptures are pretty different, since stress was not put on focusing on the here and now but treating this life like a weigh station for the next, which I'm not interested in.

I'm all for looking to fellow man (and non-human animal) with compassion, but not doing it because someone else did it (even if that person is someone else's messiah) or in hopes I'll avoid something or get something beyond being more harmonious with my current environment.

I also don't believe in an eternal soul or hereafter so I'm not interested in spreading any news of a paradise I don't believe exists beyond the best we can make of the present.
 
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URAVIP2ME

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ADigitalArtist said:
......................I also don't believe in an eternal soul or hereafter so I'm not interested in spreading any news of a paradise I don't believe exists beyond the best we can make of the present.
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Since the Bible teaches 'the soul that sins dies' (Ezekiel 18:4,20) ->You are right there is No eternal soul.
A lot of people don't believe in a hereafter but to me that does Not make that as proof.
Thus, such a person would Not only have No interest about any paradise but would not spread that news.
Unless damaged, we all have a conscience to help us do what is right.
When one's conscience is ignored then it can become very hardened calloused like flesh branded by a hot branding iron.

P.S. If you do any Digital Art picturing nature you can be excellent enough to receive praise for your good work.
To me such work is inspired by the One who provided the nature subject.
 
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URAVIP2ME

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paarsurrey said:
" End Times? "
I don't get one exactly, isn't 1980 already gone, please, right?
Regards
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Right, 1980 already gone but Not 2080.
Just as we know when Spring is near (blossoms appear) today's moral decay shows the end of the wicked is near.
- 2nd Timothy 3:1-5,13; Psalms 37:38; 92:7; 104:35; 145:20; Proverbs 2:21-22
End Times -> for the wicked, but Not for the humble meek who will inherit the Earth - Matt. 5:5; Psalms 37:9-11; 22:26
Thus, long before 2080 the powers in charge will be saying, " Peace and Security...." (1st Thessalonians 5:2-3) but that Rosy saying can lead people down that old Primrose Path instead of Peace the great tribulation follows (Rev. 7:14)
followed by the last war Armageddon (Psalm 46:9) when the figurative 'sheep' (Matt. 25:31-34,37) will be here to see calendar Day One of Jesus' coming peaceful 1,000 year governmental reign over Earth. - 1st Corinthians 15:24-26
 
Ben Dhyan

Ben Dhyan

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Serious question, I am aware that Vladimir Putin is quite a sincere student and practitioner with regards the Orthodox Christian religion, so clearly given the present unstable state of the world and his position in it as president of Russia, he should be a particular serious student of the Book of Revelation, so I wonder who he thinks is the global beast with seven heads and ten horns is that tries to bring down religion in order to rule the world?

We are all aware of course of the schisms, various national and ethnic cultural dogmas, national secular political and geopolitical influences, etc., that have afflicted and shaped Christian thought and beliefs through the millennia until now, and thus we cannot, if we too are serious students of these end times, just take some populist viewpoint based on some resonating prejudice.

It strikes me that President Putin has no pretenses for Russia to rule the world, and so it would be interesting to learn who he thinks is the entity/entities represented by the ten horned beast, also the anti-Christ?
 
paarsurrey

paarsurrey

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End Times?

Hasn't the "end times" already started, please, right?
Were there any "end times" prophecies with the Israelites, please, right?

Regards
 
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Ben Dhyan

Ben Dhyan

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paarsurrey said:
End Times?

Hasn't the "end times" already started, please, right?

Regards
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This site, ESCHATOLOGY TODAY , specializes on "end times" development.

If you have been following post WWII geopolitics, and before, you would know that the "game of monopoly" on planet Earth has been won and the winners are trying to establish a one world government to rule all humanity. And fwiw, I don't see the winners as being at all religious.
 
IndigoChild5559

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
paarsurrey said:
End Times?

The End Time sign is Second Coming of the Messiah and it has rightly and timely happened, please, right?
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The Christians I know believe that Jesus comes AFTER the end times, that his second coming is the conclusion of that era.

Here are some of the "signs" of end times Christians have mentioned to me.
  1. Wars and rumors of wars
  2. Natural disasters (earthquakes, famines, pestilences)
  3. Increase in lawlessness and immorality
  4. Global persecution of Christians
  5. Apostasy or falling away from the faith
  6. Rise of false prophets and teachers
  7. Rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem
  8. Mark of the Beast
  9. Rise of a single global government or leader (Antichrist)
  10. Signs in the heavens (eclipses, blood moons)
  11. Israel becoming a nation and conflicts in the Middle East
  12. Spread of the Gospel to all nations
  13. Global economic instability
  14. Signs of global unity or cooperation (seen as paving the way for the Antichrist)
  15. Gog and Magog war (conflict involving Israel)
  16. Return of Jews to Israel and Jerusalem
 
Muffled

Muffled

Jesus in me
IndigoChild5559 said:
The Christians I know believe that Jesus comes AFTER the end times, that his second coming is the conclusion of that era.

Here are some of the "signs" of end times Christians have mentioned to me.
  1. Wars and rumors of wars
  2. Natural disasters (earthquakes, famines, pestilences)
  3. Increase in lawlessness and immorality
  4. Global persecution of Christians
  5. Apostasy or falling away from the faith
  6. Rise of false prophets and teachers
  7. Rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem
  8. Mark of the Beast
  9. Rise of a single global government or leader (Antichrist)
  10. Signs in the heavens (eclipses, blood moons)
  11. Israel becoming a nation and conflicts in the Middle East
  12. Spread of the Gospel to all nations
  13. Global economic instability
  14. Signs of global unity or cooperation (seen as paving the way for the Antichrist)
  15. Gog and Magog war (conflict involving Israel)
  16. Return of Jews to Israel and Jerusalem
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I believe 16. has occurred which is why there is a great deal of anticipation.
 
paarsurrey

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
End Times?
Has Armageddon already started with the advent of Second Coming 1835-1908?

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Yes, most certainly, I understand, with the advent of Second Coming 1835-1908, the Armageddon has already started, not in the shape of any physical war between different religions, but in the shape of Jihad/strife with pen.

Jihad with pen means to prove with rational reasons and logical arguments the truthfulness and supremacy/excellence of one’s own truthful Religion over the other faiths/religions or non-religions (Atheism et al) with peaceful dialogue, which means:
  • providing claims with straightforward text and​
  • reasons from one’s own revealed religious book,​
  • not from outside of it,​
as explained in the very beginning of first two pages of the book.
(This method has been named by me as ”Religious Method” as it helps to find the most Truthful Religion among the religions and or the truthful denomination among the many denominations of a religion. )

The Second Coming demonstrated the above golden principle in the rest of the book by adhering to it ,very closely.​

Second Coming 1835-1908 proved this golden aspect of the Truthful Religion in an inter-religious conference held in the year 1896 in Lahore, in the then British India. One may like to read this intellectual discourse by accessing:

Click to access Philosophy-of-Teachings-of-Islam.pdf

Right?

Regards
 
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