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Have you quit molesting kids? That's a direct straight forward question.
Of course you don't do that. But asking questions that you only accept an asnswer of your liking is just as loaded.
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Of course you don't do that. But asking questions that you only accept an asnswer of your liking is just as loaded.
McBell
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No, as a matter of fact I do not.
They are clearly a hate group.
You just flat out refuse to acknowledge it, hiding behind "well, I agree agree with some of what they say"
It is simply because they are a confirmed hate group.
At least, to those who are not trying to hide from the fact.
McBell
Admiral Obvious
Why won't you state that a confirmed hate group is a hate group?
Why the dancing monkey routine?
Argentbear
Well-Known Member
You said what qualifies as hate depends "on what side of the fence the viewer is standing on."
I asked which side of that fence comparing minorities to pedophiles was on
you said " members and supporters" Indicating that comparing minorities to pedophiles in not necessarily hate based on where you stand
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Are book burners/banners hate groups?
Are religious people hate groups?
Are atheists hate groups?
Are republicans a hate group?
Etc etc
Those all depends on who you ask.
Example. I think some book bans are ridiculous, some I would stand behind. While others see them as hate groups, for me calling book banning hate groups would be pointless since I would support some but not others.
Argentbear
Well-Known Member
no it really can't. Hate groups have specific parameters that need to be met to qualify as such
Argentbear
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Very possibly. Can you identify a non hate reason to burn books?
some individuals may be but they as a whole most religious people would not and as a group no
some may but as a whole no
Some individuals may be but not as a group
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And that's part of the problem. You and people like you that don't get the answer they want then ridicule others. That **** gets old too.
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There ya go. Some things people/groups do are considered from hate while others things they do aren't.
Argentbear
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A hate group is an organization that—based on its official statements or principles, the statements of its leaders, or its activities—has beliefs or practices that attack or malign an entire class of people, typically for their immutable characteristics. The mere presence of bigoted members in a group or organization is typically not enough to qualify it as a hate group; the group itself must have some hate-based orientation/purpose.
Hate groups like the American College of Pediatricians advocates prejudice, discrimination and hostility and even violence towards the LGBT community and LGBT individuals. This group engages in disinformation campaigns and focuses on children, the most vulnerable of individuals. They lobby against parental rights for LGBT parents. They vocally opposes anti-bullying campaigns in schools. They have fabricated dozens of junk science and fake research. They distribute fake research. They have petitioned schools to remove LGBT kids from classrooms because of the danger of "infecting normal children".
They are a hate group and one of the more disgusting examples of a hate group out there.
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From the group who deems them a hate group. I didn't see where they are accused of advocating hostility and even violence towards the LGBT community and LGBT individuals.
Are they prejudice against them, yes.
Southern Poverty Law
"The American College of Pediatricians (ACPeds) is a fringe anti-LGBTQ hate group that masquerades as the premier U.S. association of pediatricians to push anti-LGBTQ junk science, primarily via far-right conservative media and filing amicus briefs in cases related to gay adoption and marriage equality"
American College of Pediatricians
The American College of Pediatricians (ACPeds) is a fringe anti-LGBTQ hate group that masquerades as the premier U.S. association of pediatricians to push anti-LGBTQ junk science, primarily via far-right conservative media and filing amicus briefs in cases related to gay adoption and marriage...
From the above link...
One claim from The American College of Pediatricians is....
"Individuals who practice a homosexual lifestyle are more likely than heterosexuals to experience mental illness, substance abuse, suicidal tendencies and shortened life spans.”
Now is there any truth to that? Just doing a quick search it seems there is.
"The Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA) today released a new data report Lesbian, Gay, and Bisexual Behavioral Health: Results from the 2021 and 2022 National Surveys on Drug Use and Health (PDF | 2.1 MB), indicating that lesbian, gay, and bisexual adults are more likely than straight adults to use substances, experience mental health conditions including major depressive episodes, and experience serious thoughts of suicide.
We know that statistically, lesbian, gay and bisexual Americans face increased risks for mental health and substance use issues, which is often related to stress caused by stigma, discrimination and harassment,” said HHS Assistant Secretary for Mental Health and Substance Use Miriam E. Delphin-Rittmon, Ph.D., and the leader of SAMHSA. “SAMHSA is committed to addressing this issue by increasing services and supports for LGBTQI+ individuals.”
SAMHSA Releases New Data on Lesbian, Gay and Bisexual Behavioral Health
The Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA) today released a new data report Lesbian, Gay, and Bisexual Behavioral Health: Results from the 2021 and 2022 National Surveys on Drug Use and Health (PDF | 2.1 MB), indicating that lesbian, gay, and bisexual adults are more...
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Speaking of focusing on children, the most vulnerable of individuals.
I don't think drag queens should be doing children story time or that anyone should push gender drugs on children for that reason. But that's me.
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Argentbear
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From the group who deems them a hate group. I didn't see where they are accused of advocating hostility and even violence towards the LGBT community and LGBT individuals.
Are they prejudice against them, yes.
Southern Poverty Law
"The American College of Pediatricians (ACPeds) is a fringe anti-LGBTQ hate group that masquerades as the premier U.S. association of pediatricians to push anti-LGBTQ junk science, primarily via far-right conservative media and filing amicus briefs in cases related to gay adoption and marriage equality"
American College of Pediatricians
The American College of Pediatricians (ACPeds) is a fringe anti-LGBTQ hate group that masquerades as the premier U.S. association of pediatricians to push anti-LGBTQ junk science, primarily via far-right conservative media and filing amicus briefs in cases related to gay adoption and marriage...www.splcenter.org
From the above link...
One claim from The American College of Pediatricians is....
"Individuals who practice a homosexual lifestyle are more likely than heterosexuals to experience mental illness, substance abuse, suicidal tendencies and shortened life spans.”
Now is there any truth to that? Just doing a quick search it seems there is.
and you posted it right yourself: "related to stress caused by stigma, discrimination and harassment,”
It isn't being gay. it's living with hate and discrimination.
Argentbear
Well-Known Member
any reason other than personal prejudice?
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Its the same way even where homosexuality is widely accepted.
The Netherlands for example.
Same-Sex Sexual Behavior and Psychiatric Disorders
Background It has been suggested that homosexuality is associated with psychiatric morbidity. This study examined differences between heterosexually and homosexually active subjects in 12-month and lifetime prevalence of DSM-III-R mood, anxiety, and substance use disorders in a...
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Because children are the most vulnerable of individuals.
McBell
Admiral Obvious
The bigger part of the problem is people like you who refuse to call a spade a spade.
The ACP is a confirmed hate group.
All evil needs to win is for good people to do nothing.
People who support hate groups SHOULD be called out AND rediculed.
If it bothers it you so much, perhaps you should keep your support of hate groups to yourself?
McBell
Admiral Obvious
Counting the hits and ignoring the misses does not help you.From the group who deems them a hate group. I didn't see where they are accused of advocating hostility and even violence towards the LGBT community and LGBT individuals.
Are they prejudice against them, yes.
Southern Poverty Law
"The American College of Pediatricians (ACPeds) is a fringe anti-LGBTQ hate group that masquerades as the premier U.S. association of pediatricians to push anti-LGBTQ junk science, primarily via far-right conservative media and filing amicus briefs in cases related to gay adoption and marriage equality"
American College of Pediatricians
The American College of Pediatricians (ACPeds) is a fringe anti-LGBTQ hate group that masquerades as the premier U.S. association of pediatricians to push anti-LGBTQ junk science, primarily via far-right conservative media and filing amicus briefs in cases related to gay adoption and marriage...
From the above link...
One claim from The American College of Pediatricians is....
"Individuals who practice a homosexual lifestyle are more likely than heterosexuals to experience mental illness, substance abuse, suicidal tendencies and shortened life spans.”
Now is there any truth to that? Just doing a quick search it seems there is.
"The Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA) today released a new data report Lesbian, Gay, and Bisexual Behavioral Health: Results from the 2021 and 2022 National Surveys on Drug Use and Health (PDF | 2.1 MB), indicating that lesbian, gay, and bisexual adults are more likely than straight adults to use substances, experience mental health conditions including major depressive episodes, and experience serious thoughts of suicide.
We know that statistically, lesbian, gay and bisexual Americans face increased risks for mental health and substance use issues, which is often related to stress caused by stigma, discrimination and harassment,” said HHS Assistant Secretary for Mental Health and Substance Use Miriam E. Delphin-Rittmon, Ph.D., and the leader of SAMHSA. “SAMHSA is committed to addressing this issue by increasing services and supports for LGBTQI+ individuals.”
SAMHSA Releases New Data on Lesbian, Gay and Bisexual Behavioral Health
The Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA) today released a new data report Lesbian, Gay, and Bisexual Behavioral Health: Results from the 2021 and 2022 National Surveys on Drug Use and Health (PDF | 2.1 MB), indicating that lesbian, gay, and bisexual adults are more...www.samhsa.gov
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What joke!
1. I'm not bothered, you clearly are
2. Didn't say I support them(show the quote)
3. One other group says they are a hate group
I answered you more than once. You didn't get the answer you wanted and are having a hissy. That's life. Grow up.