Errors in the Quran

[Farrukh]

And y is that Muslims or some Muslims only discover the miracle in Quran after it was proved by science...

Absolute knowledge is with God, as I mentioned in post number 202 , scholars were unaware of the fact that dead sea is lowest part of the land, they translated Arabic word 'ADNA' as 'near', and later when geologist discovered that it was the lowest place, they translated it as lowest.

another reason, even if Muhammad peace be upon him was having the knowledge, it was of no use to explain such things, people were going to laugh.

 

[ranvirk]

Absolute knowledge is with God, as I mentioned in post number 202 , scholars were unaware of the fact that dead sea is lowest part of the land, they translated Arabic word 'ADNA' as 'near', and later when geologist discovered that it was the lowest place, they translated it as lowest.

another reason, even if Muhammad peace be upon him was having the knowledge, it was of no use to explain such things, people were going to laugh.

U mean Muslim scholars?

 

[Farrukh]

U mean Muslim scholars?

too obvious

 

[Truthisnotyourenemy]

I showed you with evidence how the word star looks like in the quran which isn't the same word for the asteroids,but your purpose is just to distort Islam and hence you can't do any fair discussion.

What you want to discuss if you only believe blindly what the scholars had said.

Ancient scholars knew the language best and they did not try and distort the Koran. The word can obviously mean stars and in this context is the correct word according to them.

 

[Truthisnotyourenemy]

Trustisnotyourenemy will ask you then, how God asked us to see it,while we can't see,as he tried before some days to see if there is more than one heaven over his head but he saw only one heaven.

I wonder how he himself can't see the 7 heavens and still doesn't believe how miraculous the quran is.

When the Koran uses the word see it can also mean know depending on the context.

People back then believed the earth and solid sky were separated from one another. I explained this myth earlier in this thread.

Here is link that explain:

Primarily, creation myths deal with the act of separation

http://www.jeffhouse.addr.com/mythology/creationmyths.htm

Again the Koran was repeating a myth they already knew about it.

 

[FearGod]

When the Koran uses the word see it can also mean know depending on the context.

People back then believed the earth and solid sky were separated from one another. I explained this myth earlier in this thread.

Here is link that explain:

Primarily, creation myths deal with the act of separation

http://www.jeffhouse.addr.com/mythology/creationmyths.htm

Again the Koran was repeating a myth they already knew about it.

 

[Truthisnotyourenemy]

 

[FearGod]

Ancient scholars knew the language best and they did not try and distort the Koran. The word can obviously mean stars and in this context is the correct word according to them.

They knew the language and we don't know the language.
I showed you with clear evidence which is your own eyes that the scholars were wrong and you still believe them being right in order to show the quran as being wrong and not because they were right.

 

[Truthisnotyourenemy]

They knew the language and we don't know the language.
I showed you with clear evidence which is your own eyes that the scholars were wrong and you still believe them being right in order to show the quran as being wrong and not because they were right.

Classical Arabic is what they knew best, which is what the Koran is written in. Words evolve over time, they had the best understanding.
Early muslims understood the word as stars in this context, they didn't all a mistake. To suggest this would be ridiculous.
Your evidence didn't prove anything.

 

[FearGod]

Classical Arabic is what they knew best, which is what the Koran is written in. Words evolve over time, they had the best understanding.
Early muslims understood the word as stars in this context, they didn't all a mistake. To suggest this would be ridiculous.
Your evidence didn't prove anything.

:areyoucra

I showed you how the word star looked like in the quran and it was translated by the scholars as stars too which mentioned in the quran as guidance and also God swore by the positions of the stars which God said it is a great oath if you only could know ,and the other word never meant to be a star but it wasa wrong interpretation and i explained it to you in ful but you'll never agree because you don't want to agree.

 

[Truthisnotyourenemy]

:areyoucra

I showed you how the word star looked like in the quran and it was translated by the scholars as stars too which mentioned in the quran as guidance and also God swore by the positions of the stars which God said it is a great oath if you only could know ,and the other word never meant to be a star but it wasa wrong interpretation and i explained it to you in ful but you'll never agree because you don't want to agree.

Both words can mean stars and ancient scholars agreed that in their contexts they also both meant stars in the Koran. They knew the language best, therefore they would know.

 

[Truthisnotyourenemy]

So how do asteroids/meteorites become missiles for evil spirits anyway?

 

[FearGod]

So how do asteroids/meteorites become missiles for evil spirits anyway?

Who said spirits ?
i had already explained it. http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/3721548-post174.html

 

[FearGod]

Both words can mean stars and ancient scholars agreed that in their contexts they also both meant stars in the Koran. They knew the language best, therefore they would know.

How you judge without knowing Arabic words ?
I asked you many times what this word means

How can you be fair while you don't know the language of the quran and you aren't even willing to know.

 

[Truthisnotyourenemy]

Who said spirits ?
i had already explained it. http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/3721548-post174.html

So these are missiles for nations on earth?

 

[FearGod]

So these are missiles for nations on earth?

And we are expecting them to happen any time and nothing can be done to avoid them and even the best theory about the cause of dinosaurs extinction is the asteroids.

 

[Truthisnotyourenemy]

And we are expecting them to happen any time and nothing can be done to avoid them and even the best theory about the cause of dinosaurs extinction is the asteroids.

So why does verse 72.08 claim these are for the jinn who try to reach heaven?

072.008
SHAKIR: And that we sought to reach heaven, but we found it filled with strong guards and flaming stars.

 

[FearGod]

So why does verse 72.08 claim these are for the jinn who try to reach heaven?

072.008
SHAKIR: And that we sought to reach heaven, but we found it filled with strong guards and flaming stars.

72:8

Again the word in the red square doesn't mean stars but asteroids.

The verse is about the Jinn and not about evil people or nations as for the previous one it was about striking with asteroids as great punishment but for this verse it is about the Jinn's observation that they saw the heaven was full with asteroids and guards.

The Jinn are supernatural creation and they can do things which we can't do,it is the same as if we launch a spaceship and coming back with the same observation that the sky is full with asteroids and well guarded, IOW there is a point where it is impossible for even the Jinn to pass by.

 

[Bunyip]

I would think that the errors in the Quran are as well known as those in the bible.

Two that spring to mind are the Quran's misconceptions about how the foetus forms, in which most of the major details are wrong - like the bones forming first.

The sun setting into a muddy puddle is another example.

Just like the bible, there is nothing whatsoever in the Quran that indicates any form of knowledge beyond that commonly known at the time.

 

[FearGod]

I would think that the errors in the Quran are as well known as those in the bible.

Two that spring to mind are the Quran's misconceptions about how the foetus forms, in which most of the major details are wrong - like the bones forming first.

The sun setting into a muddy puddle is another example.

Just like the bible, there is nothing whatsoever in the Quran that indicates any form of knowledge beyond that commonly known at the time.

Quote please the verses which you think of it as errors and i'll show you that you were wrong because the quran can never be wrong but you can only think and wish it to be so (wishful thinking).