thebigpicture
Active Member
Go back and re-read my reply to the OP and see if you can spot where you went wrong in your interpretation of what I wrote.
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ESP, psychic and supernatural phenomenon... yes or no?
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Go back and re-read my reply to the OP and see if you can spot where you went wrong in your interpretation of what I wrote.
jarofthoughts
Empirical Curmudgeon
I don't know where you have been educated (or whether you have been educated at all), but where I come from we substantiate the claims we make.
And if you don't think claims need to be substantiated for them to be believable, I have an invisible dragon in my hallway that I suspect you'll be interested in hearing about.
thebigpicture
Active Member
If you think that everybody has to believe a fact in order for that fact to be an actual fact, you're delusional. People disbelieve what clearly are facts all the time. I'm not going to waste my time proving something like that to a skeptic. You either believe it or you don't. Some things people have to experience firsthand in order for their views to change, which I completely understand. If and when you experience something, then you'll know. If not, then you'll remain a skeptic. Either way, I'm good.
jarofthoughts
Empirical Curmudgeon
So, you're choosing to go with a cop out? :sarcastic
Not what I would have done, but each to his own I guess...
fallingblood
Agnostic Theist
I went wrong in actually reading it? I don't like guessing games.
gnomon
Well-Known Member
Oh please.
Years spent conducting double blind experiments, learning hot to set up proper controls for specific claims and helping far more people to understand and attend to the sciences than most high school teachers could ever hope.
Standing up and saying the man is a high school drop out therefore it is incredulous that he could be a scientist is just foolish.
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outhouse
Atheistically
jarofthoughts
Empirical Curmudgeon
Whether someone is a scientist or not depends more on their methodology than on their level of education.
thebigpicture
Active Member
(Chuckles) Call it whatever you want, buddy. Whatever makes your clock tick.
thebigpicture
Active Member
(LAUGHS!) Nope! Close...but not quite. You went wrong in actually reading it...wrongly. (smh) C'mon now, it's not so difficult that you have to go and turn it into a whole guessing game. The answer's staring back at you plain as day. If you can't see something that's so simple quickly, then clearly there's no point in carrying on. A little advice for future reference, though -- don't put words in my mouth, or in this case, don't print words beneath my fingertips. If you're going to paraphrase me, interpret me correctly; otherwise, you know...keep it moving.
A.Anderson
Member
Not in the slightest.
fallingblood
Agnostic Theist
If I didn't interpret you correctly, then please show me where I went wrong. You simply saying that I interpreted you wrong, and then refusing to actually state where, is only a dodge. It doesn't show I interpreted you wrong. And really, I don't have a want for a guessing game where you don't actually state what you're thinking.
jarofthoughts
Empirical Curmudgeon
Oh, I will.
I'm just not sure if 'cop out' or 'chickening out' has more of a ring to it. :sarcastic
Which do you think better conveys the meaning of someone who jumps into an argument presenting claims left right and centre, and who afterwards realizes that they do not have a single leg to stand on, and who then desperately tries to save face by acting casual about it?
Yes, but the source of their powers was God. The source of occult powers is, ultimately, the devil. Therefore, the Bible condemns all occult practices. (Deuteronomy 18:10-12)
jarofthoughts
Empirical Curmudgeon
And where did the devil get his powers?
God, obviously. Of course God could simply destroy Satan and declare "Game Over".
God created man and angels. Satan "challenged" his creation of man. God said "prove it".
And here we are, pawns with free-will.
jarofthoughts
Empirical Curmudgeon
So that means that the occult powers (assuming there is such a thing) that some make use of, actually come from god?
fallingblood
Agnostic Theist
But now you're getting into a stance of picking and choosing.
So that means that the occult powers (assuming there is such a thing) that some make use of, actually come from god?
No. From Satan or his demons.
Did Jeffrey Dahmers' evil nature come from his mother or father?
jarofthoughts
Empirical Curmudgeon
But you just admitted that they got their powers from God, which means that all the power (according to you) comes from God.
He seems to have had some social dysfunction disorder stemming from a hernia operation when he was six, although we cannot rule out that other factors played a role as well. We know that he had drinking problems in high school, and that he was probably neglected by his father, with whom he lived at the time.
All in all, there were probably several factors leading to his violent and sadistic behaviour.
However, I do not see how any of this is relevant. :sarcastic