ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
And how do you go about demonstrating that it is true? Every example that has ever been brought up has been based on wildly interpreting a series of vague passages.
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Establishing the Creator (Atheist runs away when Muslim asks probing questions)
- Thread starter DunyaDawah
- Start date
...that doesn't make any sense. NASA didn't exist in Muslim Arabia.
Wow, Islam is taking credit for NASA now! Oy vey!
Photonic
Ad astra!
No, one person who happens to be Islamic is using his religion to take credit from some extremely hardworking people. While it happens all the time, let's avoid such a rash generalization.
Gjallarhorn
N'yog-Sothep
The "let's think if" part means it's hypothetical.
dynavert2012
Active Member
i said IF, you know what IF means !
no need to be rude
averageJOE
zombie
It seems that the theme of thread is "First you have to believe. Then try and disprove the belief. Until then, the belief is true."
I know what if means. But it's a hypothetical that cannot be applied, because it's completely irrelevant. If NASA were an Islamic organization, it would be identical to the actual NASA in virtually every way if it were to maintain the same credibility. Being virtually identical, it would be just as trustworthy as it actually is.
When I said that NASA didn't exist in Muslim Arabia, I mean that back then, if the information we have now via technology was available via the Qur'an, then their cosmology would have been identical to our current theories. So far, it would appear that their cosmology followed the Ptolemic model, instead.
dynavert2012
Active Member
apologizes it's not my nature
dynavert2012
Active Member
for sure, but in case it says something matched with the quran, people will have doubt about it as they may think it;s Islamic propaganda, you got what i meant?
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
Not if they can provide objective evidence, no.
dynavert2012
Active Member
i hope all people think like that, but not all of them think in that way
Why would they?
If they were able to back it up with evidence, whether it's in the Qur'an or not would be irrelevant.
Alceste
Vagabond
What it is is magical thinking. There are a lot of sentences in any book. If you go and decide a book is magic, and says everything we will ever need to know about life, the universe and everything, you will be able to find a sentence in your magic book that can be interpreted in such a way as to "predict" pretty much any discovery.
One day you should pick another book and give it a try. Or just get me to do it for you. The closest book I have to hand is the 4th book in the wheel of time series. Name me any scientific discovery since 1991 (the publication date) and I bet I can show that this book already "predicted" it.
Non-magical thinking would be, if any compelling evidence exists that leads to a specific conclusion, it is completely irrelevant whether or not anything similar to it has ever been written in a book. It is true either way, and the book is still just a book either way.
Gjallarhorn
N'yog-Sothep
Anyone notice how DunyaDawah hasn't responded since he agreed to present scientific findings of the Creator?
Just thought I'd point that out.
Just thought I'd point that out.
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
I did indeed.
Alceste
Vagabond
Maybe he looked up the word "scientific" and realized he's SOL.
Storm
ThrUU the Looking Glass
Nah, I think he was betting on the gamble that we'd eventually get bored and "run away."
Alceste
Vagabond
Maybe he's run away to another forum where he is at this very moment claiming that we ran away from his tough questions.