Europe wants peace

[Shaul]

I kindly remind you that Germany and Italy have been at peace for 80 years...whereas Americans have unleashed wars for those eighty years.
The elitist cabal of warmongers did.
Vietnam war...Libyan war...Syrian war....

Really? Germany was involved in Afghanistan, the Gulf wars, the war against ISIL, and the intervention in Mali. Italy was involved in wars in Kosovo, Bosnia, Macedonia, Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria. You mean the war in Vietnam that began with the French? And the Libyan civil war was a NATO campaign involving both the UK (Operation Ellamy), France (Opération Harmattan), and Italy (all European countries)? And the Syrian war that involved France, Russia, Italy Turkiye and other European countries? Funny that you didn't mention the wars in Kosovo, Georgia, Armenia/Azerbaijan, or Chechia. All European, not American wars. Nor the wars Europeans have participated in in other lands such as Chad, Côte d'Ivoire, Mali, and the Falkland Islands.

 

[Estro Felino]

Really? Germany was involved in Afghanistan, the Gulf wars, the war against ISIL, and the intervention in Mali. Italy was involved in wars in Kosovo, Bosnia, Macedonia, Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria. You mean the war in Vietnam that began with the French? And the Libyan civil war was a NATO campaign involving both the UK (Operation Ellamy), France (Opération Harmattan), and Italy (all European countries)? And the Syrian war that involved France, Russia, Italy Turkiye and other European countries? Funny that you didn't mention the wars in Kosovo, Georgia, Armenia/Azerbaijan, or Chechia. All European, not American wars. Nor the wars Europeans have participated in in other lands such as Chad, Côte d'Ivoire, Mali, and the Falkland Islands.

What changes?
All wars planned by the elitist cabal of warmongers overseas.
Being US military colonies, I don't think any of us could have said no. And by the way, those interventions were against the constitutions of Italy and Germany.

 

[Estro Felino]

Really? Germany was involved in Afghanistan, the Gulf wars, the war against ISIL, and the intervention in Mali. Italy was involved in wars in Kosovo, Bosnia, Macedonia, Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria. You mean the war in Vietnam that began with the French? And the Libyan civil war was a NATO campaign involving both the UK (Operation Ellamy), France (Opération Harmattan), and Italy (all European countries)? And the Syrian war that involved France, Russia, Italy Turkiye and other European countries? Funny that you didn't mention the wars in Kosovo, Georgia, Armenia/Azerbaijan, or Chechia. All European, not American wars. Nor the wars Europeans have participated in in other lands such as Chad, Côte d'Ivoire, Mali, and the Falkland Islands.

Dear sir, Assange exposed the war crimes from that élite.
That's why they want him now in the United States., So they can eliminate him.

 

[Shaul]

Dear sir, Assange exposed the war crimes from that élite.
That's why they want him now in the United States., So they can eliminate him.

Your tin foil hat is slipping.

 

[Estro Felino]

Your tin foil hat is slipping

Hillary's infamous emails can enter any international courtroom at any moment.

The fact that Europeans were not dragged into a world war shows that the hands of those elitist warmongers are kinda tied, right now.

 

[icehorse]

Europe wants peace.
These latest EU elections have showed it.

So this is a message to my friends from the United States:
do respect Europeans' desire of peace and may God enlighten you as well...and make you desire peace with Russia.
Thank you.

Europe is in a difficult position (well, we all are), but it is a mistake to tolerate the intolerant. You will never be able to appease Putin.

Paradox of tolerance - Wikipedia

 

[Estro Felino]

Europe is in a difficult position (well, we all are), but it is a mistake to tolerate the intolerant. You will never be able to appease Putin.

Paradox of tolerance - Wikipedia

If you ask my people: do you prefer Putin or Soros? The 80% will answer Putin.
Since they know that Ukraine has been sorosized, of course they will never side with Zelenskyy.

I mean...of course we empathize with Ukrainians and we support them economically, but only because they desire to join the EU.
Defeating Russia is foolish. It's like Luxemburg wanted to defeat Germany.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

I think she means Russian Orthodox and is ignoring that not all Orthodox Christians follow Putin. LOL

No, Poland and other slavic and catholic countries.

 

[Estro Felino]

It's easy to say oh well when it's not your freedoms and way of life that are being threatened.
You'd be begging for help if it was happening to you, even if Putin invaded because under Putins law your existence is a crime.

Those four regions want to stay with the Russian Federation. Referendums ascertained that.
If they wanted to stay with Ukraine, of course I would side with Ukraine.

Has there ever been a referendum in the United States? No.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

With all due respect...but European borders are based upon national identities which have been existing for centuries.
I know it's a very difficult to understand for an American.
But those regions were Russian.
So it doesn't deal with an imperialist invader.
Croatians took several regions from us. But we accepted that because those were Croatian lands.
No double standards. Please.

That is a partial lie. Parts of Europa have been stable, others not so much.

 

[Estro Felino]

That is a partial lie. Parts of Europa have been stable, others not so much.

Those which were not in the EU so they could be invaded by the warmongers coming from overseas.
Does Kosovo ring any bells?
That's why we need to expand the EU as much as possible, so those people will remain high and dry.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Referendums ascertained that.

Putin supporters are thr only ones who claim that.
Elections under gun point during an invasion are not valid. The world at large agrees.

 

[Estro Felino]

Putin supporters are thr only ones who claim that.
Elections under gun point during an invasion are not valid. The world at large agrees.

They are more valid than what I have seen in the US in November 2020.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

They are more valid than what I have seen in the US in November 2020.

You need your glasses cleaned then or need to start wearing them.
You also dodged my point that you too would be begging for assistance because the Russians would throw you against the wall, and I think you know that.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Those which were not in the EU so they could be invaded by the warmongers coming from overseas.
Does Kosovo ring any bells?
That's why we need to expand the EU as much as possible, so those people will remain high and dry.

Well, even the border between Denmark and Germany was changed 1864 through war. Then there is France and Germany and the border area. Then there are Eastern Europa even after 2 WW. So no, it is not just stable borders for centruries and natinalism only came about in the 1840.
You are doing your propaganda.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Really? Germany was involved in Afghanistan, the Gulf wars, the war against ISIL, and the intervention in Mali. Italy was involved in wars in Kosovo, Bosnia, Macedonia, Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria. You mean the war in Vietnam that began with the French? And the Libyan civil war was a NATO campaign involving both the UK (Operation Ellamy), France (Opération Harmattan), and Italy (all European countries)? And the Syrian war that involved France, Russia, Italy Turkiye and other European countries? Funny that you didn't mention the wars in Kosovo, Georgia, Armenia/Azerbaijan, or Chechia. All European, not American wars. Nor the wars Europeans have participated in in other lands such as Chad, Côte d'Ivoire, Mali, and the Falkland Islands.

Amd Russia tried their luck in Afghanistan before America tried to do whatever they hell it was the military tried to do there.
Seems like the Great Satan rhetoric is very alive and well.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Well, even the border between Denmark and Germany was changed 1864 through war. Then there is France and Germany and the border area. Then there are Eastern Europa even after 2 WW. So no, it is not just stable borders for centruries and natinalism only came about in the 1840.
You are doing your propaganda.

Yup. I spent a lot 9f time as a kid trying to figure out how to pronounce Czechoslovakia amd trying to understand this West vs East, behind the Iron Curtain thing.
That map has changed so much that Czechoslovakia doesn't even exist anymore and Germany today is enjoying its longest period of stable boarders.

 

[Estro Felino]

Well, even the border between Denmark and Germany was changed 1864 through war. Then there is France and Germany and the border area. Then there are Eastern Europa even after 2 WW. So no, it is not just stable borders for centruries and natinalism only came about in the 1840.
You are doing your propaganda.

I am speaking since the creation of the EU.
The EU is a powerful weapon against those warmongers because warlike operations are illegal...we need to let as many countries as possible in.

 

[Estro Felino]

Yup. I spent a lot 9f time as a kid trying to figure out how to pronounce Czechoslovakia amd trying to understand this West vs East, behind the Iron Curtain thing.
That map has changed so much that Czechoslovakia doesn't even exist anymore and Germany today is enjoying its longest period of stable boarders.

Germany has been at peace for 80 years.
The German unification has signified the end of this nightmare called Cold War.
To us the Cold War is over, since the Fall of the Berlin Wall.

Do Americans want to keep fighting the Cold War through this pointless proxy war in Ukraine?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Germany has been at peace for 80 years.
The German unification has signified the end of this nightmare called Cold War.
To us the Cold War is over, since the Fall of the Berlin Wall.

Do Americans want to keep fighting the Cold War through this pointless proxy war in Ukraine?

What a way to not address or even get my point.
And no. Germany was in the Gulf War, Afghanistan and more.