Even Republicans are beginning to notice Trump's dementia.

[Sargonski]

*yawn*
Perhaps if you were caught up on the facts you could stop making such a fool of yourself?

You know what "statute of limitations" is, right?

Who are you calling a fool .. crying out "you know what Statute of limitations is right" "if you were caught up on the facts" ?

but not stating any of these facts that were missed .. and crying out "Such a fool".

Do you not know what an argument is friend ? Perhaps that would be thee foolishness you are observing.

 

[Sargonski]

Not true, and the proper term is "evidence. The evidence for his fraud in his New York state tax case was so high that when both sides asked for an early judgement, I am sorry I forgot the proper legal term, the judge found against Trump. And that was based upon the evidence that both sides agreed to. Judges are experts at knowing what is and what is not evidence. Trump hung himself in that case.

And there are two reasons that I have said "rape" so much. Trump is currently being sued again for his lies and defamations against Carroll. He was found guilty of raping her in the earlier lawsuit that she brought up. And once again Trump's own statements may have hung him in that case. Besides the testimony brought against him, it was shown that he lied when he said "She is not my type". Do you know how he did that?

And I almost forgot, it is one fact that does make Trump supporters wince at least a little bit.

who cares about some tax violations .. What politician doesn't have a few of those. Defamation charge and penalty is a 3rd world kangaroo joke .. it is Trump who was defamed by the lies of Carrol .. and you have no proof of any lies of merit to the charge. Thinking that Trump stating the women is not his type has some significance shows lack of understanding of the subject matter. The idea that Trump stating the woman is not his type would hang him .. is ridiculous nonsense .. even if if the statement was shown to be false .. and you have not done that.

There is no evidence .. and certainly no proof that that Trump's finger managed to find its way into Carroll's vagina.... but, even if it did there is no evidence that Carroll didn't want it there... and even if she didn't .. protested upon which the finger was removed .. it is not rape .. and there is certainly no evidence or proof of that either.

This he-said/ she said nonsense an anathema to the principles of Justice - human dignity and intelligence. Find me some equal justice under the law somewhere .. punishment fits the crime .. when there is no crime proven. This progressive Blue cancel crew has not respect for the rule of law .. cares not about perversion of Justice when it benefits their slightest whim.

 

[McBell]

Who are you calling a fool .. crying out "you know what Statute of limitations is right" "if you were caught up on the facts" ?

but not stating any of these facts that were missed .. and crying out "Such a fool".

Do you not know what an argument is friend ? Perhaps that would be thee foolishness you are observing

You make statement after statement that at best shows you are grossly ignorant of the facts, at worst, being dishonest.
Now since you love being a poe, it is extremely difficult to tell which it is.

Perhaps you can inform us?
Is it gross ignorance or blatant dishonesty?

 

[Sargonski]

You make statement after statement that at best shows you are grossly ignorant of the facts, at worst, being dishonest.
Now since you love being a poe, it is extremely difficult to tell which it is.

Perhaps you can inform us?
Is it gross ignorance or blatant dishonesty?

Look friend .. we are discussing your lack of understanding of what an argument is .. demonstrated once again by the above post.

An argument consists of 2 things 1) statement of premise or claim 2) support, evidence or rational that showns the claim is true.

Now .. running around calling names and maing accusations "grossly ignorant of the Facts" - "Dishonest" are statements of claim .. but you have given nothing showing us that your claims are true which indicates that you may be the one who is ignorant of what an argument is.

second .. name calling and personal invective is not an argument for or against Trumps Dementia .. attacking the person rather than addressing the topic is called "Ad Hom" Fallacy .. Fallacy means "False Logic"

You ask "Is it gross ignorance or blatant dishonesty" - I would say probably a bit of both .. ignorance and self delusion .. self delusion related to dishonesty .. not sure how blatant but the ignorance seems "Gross" .. Gross meaning big rather than ugly.

 

[McBell]

Look friend .. we are discussing your lack of understanding of what an argument is .. demonstrated once again by the above post.

An argument consists of 2 things 1) statement of premise or claim 2) support, evidence or rational that showns the claim is true.

Now .. running around calling names and maing accusations "grossly ignorant of the Facts" - "Dishonest" are statements of claim .. but you have given nothing showing us that your claims are true which indicates that you may be the one who is ignorant of what an argument is.

second .. name calling and personal invective is not an argument for or against Trumps Dementia .. attacking the person rather than addressing the topic is called "Ad Hom" Fallacy .. Fallacy means "False Logic"

You ask "Is it gross ignorance or blatant dishonesty" - I would say probably a bit of both .. ignorance and self delusion .. self delusion related to dishonesty .. not sure how blatant but the ignorance seems "Gross" .. Gross meaning big rather than ugly.

You got diversion, avoidance and back peddling down pat.

Perhaps you can work on addressing the meat of the posts you reply to?
That would be a great way of getting your credibility back up to par.

 

[wellwisher]

No, he really did that. I am sure that I can get video of the speech if you like. He accused Nikki Haley of not taking advantage of his imaginary offer. You known the offer that he earlier claimed to make to Pelosi but Trump's own acting Defense Secretary swore under oath that the offer was never made.

What do you need evidence of? I will gladly provide it.

Nancy Pelosi never appeared before the Jan 6 Committee to respond to this claim, under oath. The Committee and Pelosi was afraid of the answer. The conclusion you stated was from the propaganda machine. Maybe after Trump wins he can bring Nanci out of mothballs and ask her under oath.

I admire Trump's energy, having to stay on the election trail, between fighting off the Swamp in Court. That is a lot of pressure for anyone of any age. My guess is Trump is associating Haley with Pelosi; Democrats and Swamp, since she is getting lots of votes from Democrats, who are voting in the Republican Primary, hoping to be a spoiler. But it is not adding enough. Ohio allows anyone to vote in either primary. New Hampshire is the same way. Cheat to win has already begun. Honesty is not their best policy.

Biden is nowhere to be seen. During the 2020 election cycle they were hiding Biden in the basement using COVID as the pretense; social distancing was important to the swamp back then. This timer the COVID hype did not stick. Where will Biden be hidden this year? Maybe someone can do a spoof called where is Waldo Biden? Why don't the Dems focus on all the good things that Biden has done for the American People and run on that?

The strategy is the same as 2020; run away from something instead of to something. They are running to Trump to help Make America Great Again and away from Fascism and the rigged games of injustice.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Nancy Pelosi never appeared before the Jan 6 Committee to respond to this claim, under oath. The Committee and Pelosi was afraid of the answer. The conclusion you stated was from the propaganda machine. Maybe after Trump wins he can bring Nanci out of mothballs and ask her under oath.

I admire Trump's energy, having to stay on the election trail, between fighting off the Swamp in Court. That is a lot of pressure for anyone of any age. My guess is Trump is associating Haley with Pelosi; Democrats and Swamp, since she is getting lots of votes from Democrats, who are voting in the Republican Primary, hoping to be a spoiler. But it is not adding enough. Ohio allows anyone to vote in either primary. New Hampshire is the same way. Cheat to win has already begun. Honesty this not their policy.

Biden is nowhere to be seen. During the 2020 election cycle they were hiding Biden in the basement using COVID as the pretense. COVID hype did not stick this time. Where will Biden be hidden this year? Where is Waldo Biden? Why don't the Dems focus on all the good things that Biden has done for the American People and run on that?

The strategy is the same as 2020; run away from something instead of to something.

Why would she need to? Trump's claim was refuted by his own acting Secretary of Defence. It was idiotic nonsense that was easily refuted.

 

[Subduction Zone]

who cares about some tax violations .. What politician doesn't have a few of those. Defamation charge and penalty is a 3rd world kangaroo joke .. it is Trump who was defamed by the lies of Carrol .. and you have no proof of any lies of merit to the charge. Thinking that Trump stating the women is not his type has some significance shows lack of understanding of the subject matter. The idea that Trump stating the woman is not his type would hang him .. is ridiculous nonsense .. even if if the statement was shown to be false .. and you have not done that.

There is no evidence .. and certainly no proof that that Trump's finger managed to find its way into Carroll's vagina.... but, even if it did there is no evidence that Carroll didn't want it there... and even if she didn't .. protested upon which the finger was removed .. it is not rape .. and there is certainly no evidence or proof of that either.

This he-said/ she said nonsense an anathema to the principles of Justice - human dignity and intelligence. Find me some equal justice under the law somewhere .. punishment fits the crime .. when there is no crime proven. This progressive Blue cancel crew has not respect for the rule of law .. cares not about perversion of Justice when it benefits their slightest whim.

Oh my. That was not a few tax problems. It could be serious enough to bust his false empire.

And yes, there is evidence. Do you not pay any attention to the news, or do you simply not understand the concept?

As to not being his type that was shown to be a lie.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Who are you calling a fool .. crying out "you know what Statute of limitations is right" "if you were caught up on the facts" ?

but not stating any of these facts that were missed .. and crying out "Such a fool".

Do you not know what an argument is friend ? Perhaps that would be thee foolishness you are observing.

He has a point.

 

[F1fan]

For what?
Before you answer, make sure that whatever you say actually has some evidence to back it up. All these posts I read from US and others making slanderous accusations haven't impressed me yet, and never will.

You're either terribly informed, or disinformed, or being deliberately naive. There is plenty of explanations of Trump's indictments and the evidence against him in these cases reported in reputable media. You're like a student who shows up on the day of the test and trying to get away with not knowing answers to the questions because you didn't study. That's on you.

I watched some of the New Hampshire primary coverage and some voters were interviewed. I was stunned how many didn't know much about the candidates, including the legal trouble Trump is in. These voters aren't informed. My thoughts were why are they bothering to show up for a primary with such little research on the candidates.

Most of the people you are arguing with in this forum are well informed, and know how to look for reporting. You don't. This is not just a flaw for indifferent voters, it is a flaw for America. The attraction for the Mango Rapist is unbelievable, and illustrates the power of corrupt leaders over the poorly informed.

 

[F1fan]

who cares about some tax violations .. What politician doesn't have a few of those. Defamation charge and penalty is a 3rd world kangaroo joke .. it is Trump who was defamed by the lies of Carrol .. and you have no proof of any lies of merit to the charge. Thinking that Trump stating the women is not his type has some significance shows lack of understanding of the subject matter. The idea that Trump stating the woman is not his type would hang him .. is ridiculous nonsense .. even if if the statement was shown to be false .. and you have not done that.

Trump mistook Carrol for his wife Marla in a photograph during a deposition. Not his type?

There is no evidence .. and certainly no proof that that Trump's finger managed to find its way into Carroll's vagina.... but, even if it did there is no evidence that Carroll didn't want it there... and even if she didn't .. protested upon which the finger was removed .. it is not rape .. and there is certainly no evidence or proof of that either.

Sorry, there are two witnesses that Carrol told them of the rape within days of the crime.

Let's note that your denial and ignorance of the evidence means nothing. The courts heard all of the evidence and found the allegations true that Trump did this crime.

This he-said/ she said nonsense an anathema to the principles of Justice - human dignity and intelligence. Find me some equal justice under the law somewhere .. punishment fits the crime .. when there is no crime proven. This progressive Blue cancel crew has not respect for the rule of law .. cares not about perversion of Justice when it benefits their slightest whim.

Your opinion is baseless. The court and a jury actually heard the evidence and their decision is more valid than your opinion. I'm not sure why you think your judgment supercedes a court. Why would you think we critical thinkes would be influenced by your ongoing devotion to a criminal candidate?

 

[SkepticThinker]

Funny. I was under the impression that it was about Trump and the lie that he has dementia.

Yes, in a thread about Trump, we're talking about your views and beliefs about Trump, which are very much on topic.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Everyone except for those who sat in court and listened to all the "facts" that were supposed to prove it.

You mean, like, the judge? The Judge knows he's a rapist too.

How come his supporters can't figure it out? He even told Billy Bush exactly what he does: Grabs them by the ****. Turns out he did exactly that to E. Jean Carroll. Plus worse.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Holy "He said - She Said" obviously nothing that would hold up in proper trial -- a disgusting perversion of Justice .. raped by Trumps finger .. but not his Penis .. but she says both Finger and Penis .. but didn't hold her down for the penis penetration ... perverted justice indeed.

He had a proper trial. He lost. He was found liable for sexual abuse and defamation of the person he sexually abused. (By the way, 25+ women have accused him of almost exactly the same thing. The very same thing, in fact, he told Billy Bush that he does - Grabs them by the *****).
Round Two is going on right now, I believe, because he still can't keep his mouth shut and continues to defame the person he sexually abused.

Trump is not the victim here. He is the abuser. Time to face facts already.

 

[SkepticThinker]

They don't have a topic because they know they are losing the argument, so it almost alway results in personal attacks instead as evidenced by the many posts reflecting that already.

Uh huh ...

List of nicknames used by Donald Trump - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Trump under fire for jabs aimed at Cruz's wife

Donald Trump's latest rude comments about Ted Cruz's wife are raising new alarms among Republicans about the party front-runner's ability to win over women, especially in a potential fall presidential match-up with Hillary Clinton.

www.pbs.org

Trump intensifies attacks on McCain: 'I never was a fan of John McCain, and I never will be'

Trump’s comments come days after the president railed against McCain on Twitter.

www.politico.com

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/10/20/here-are-the-four-star-generals-donald-trump-has-publicly-bashed/

Trump on mocking Haley’s birth name: ‘It’s just something that came’

Former President Trump doubled down on mocking GOP primary challenger Nikki Haley’s birth name, saying that the nickname just “came” to him. Fox News’s Bret Baier asked Trump in an interview that a…

thehill.com

... You were saying?

You can't rabidly support the Master of Personal Attacks and then complain when you think others are making personal attacks. Not unless you want to be a massive hypocrite.

So in summary, if it is the case that personal attacks are a sign of someone "losing the argument" then Trump has most definitely "lost the argument" a long time ago, right?

 

[SkepticThinker]

And you think that's the same thing as pinning someone against a wall and penetrating them with one's fingers and being found liable in a court of law of doing so?

No, you don't. You can't possibly. You're just flailing around with whataboutisms.

 

[SkepticThinker]

If Trump did this they would charge him with something and try to put him in jail.

Trump pinned a woman against a wall and penetrated her with his fingers against her will.

That's an actual crime.

 

[SkepticThinker]

None of which you have any proof of.
BTW, why do you like to say "rape" so much?

No proof? Hmmm ...

Except for raping several women

Proof: He has been found liable in a court of law for sexual abusing E. Jean Carroll.
He is on tape talking about how he grabs women by the genitals without their consent.
25+ Women in total have accused him of very similar behaviour.

Jury finds Trump liable for sexual abuse, awards accuser $5M

A jury has found Donald Trump liable for sexually abusing advice columnist E. Jean Carroll in 1996. Jurors awarded her $5 million in a judgment that could haunt the former president as he campaigns to regain the White House. The verdict was announced in a federal courtroom in New York City on...

apnews.com

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, peeping at underaged girls when they were undressed (self admitted),

Proof: This is on tape. He said he does this.

Trump told Stern he walked backstage when beauty queens were naked

Trump’s campaign denied that the nominee ever walked backstage.

thehill.com

More Proof: Several contestants said he did exactly that.

Teen Beauty Queens Say Trump Walked In On Them Changing

“Don’t worry, ladies, I’ve seen it all before.”

www.buzzfeednews.com

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paying a porn star and a Playboy Playmate to have sex with him,

Proof:
Michael Cohen (Trump's lawyer) went to prison for this.

Michael Cohen ends prison term after Trump-related crimes

Former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen says he has completed his three-year prison term and will continue to cooperate with law enforcement investigations.

apnews.com

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/trumps-alleged-hush-money-payments-path-criminal-charges-2023-04-04/

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cheating on his taxes,

Proof:
The Trump Organization was found guilty of this in New York.

https://www.npr.org/2022/12/06/1140756394/former-president-donald-trumps-company-found-guilty-criminal-tax-fraud

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and of course trying to cheat in the last election.

Proof:

Fake Donald Trump electors settle civil lawsuit in Wisconsin, agree that President Biden won

Ten Republicans who posed as fake electors for Donald Trump in Wisconsin and filed paperwork falsely saying he had won have settled a civil lawsuit.

apnews.com

Fact Check: Trump’s Georgia Call to Raffensperger

The former president made a slew of false claims in asking the Georgia secretary of state to overturn the 2020 election results.

www.brennancenter.org

Georgia election indictment highlights wider attempts to illegally access voting equipment

The new indictment alleging a conspiracy by former President Donald Trump and his allies to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election in Georgia includes charges against several people accused of illegally accessing voting equipment in one rural county.

apnews.com

Also, Trump was impeached for this.



Why do we say rape so much? Well, because we can't wrap our minds around the fact that you Trump supporters don't seem to care at all that he raped a woman. It doesn't seem to affect you in the slightest. And that's extremely disturbing. We can't figure out how anyone could support such a disgusting person.

 

[SkepticThinker]

who cares about some tax violations .. What politician doesn't have a few of those. Defamation charge and penalty is a 3rd world kangaroo joke .. it is Trump who was defamed by the lies of Carrol .. and you have no proof of any lies of merit to the charge. Thinking that Trump stating the women is not his type has some significance shows lack of understanding of the subject matter. The idea that Trump stating the woman is not his type would hang him .. is ridiculous nonsense .. even if if the statement was shown to be false .. and you have not done that.

There is no evidence .. and certainly no proof that that Trump's finger managed to find its way into Carroll's vagina.... but, even if it did there is no evidence that Carroll didn't want it there... and even if she didn't .. protested upon which the finger was removed .. it is not rape .. and there is certainly no evidence or proof of that either.

This he-said/ she said nonsense an anathema to the principles of Justice - human dignity and intelligence. Find me some equal justice under the law somewhere .. punishment fits the crime .. when there is no crime proven. This progressive Blue cancel crew has not respect for the rule of law .. cares not about perversion of Justice when it benefits their slightest whim.

Well, there was enough evidence in a court of law to show he did rape her. And defamed her.

Why do you people defend this disgustingness???

 

[metis]

I can hardly wait until he takes the White House again. Snowflakes will melt and heads will explode. Oh, I can hardly wait!

What depravity! ^^ignore list^^