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Everyday Biphobia

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Guys let's try to keep this about biphobia....sheesh :mad:. You can meet me here if you want to keep talking about what women want in a man
You have no room to talk, as you were the first person to derail this thread and show how you think, and you further kept derailing it by trying to talk about machismo and how you can get women, even though this is not what this thread is about. I don't think I've ever known such a womanizer of RF.
 

Drolefille

PolyPanGeekGirl
Older coworker can't seem to understand that maybe you shouldn't assume your clients have an opposite sex partner and instead of saying "girlfriend" say "partner" or ask "are you in a relationship?" and keep it gender neutral until then.
 

MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
Older coworker can't seem to understand that maybe you shouldn't assume your clients have an opposite sex partner and instead of saying "girlfriend" say "partner" or ask "are you in a relationship?" and keep it gender neutral until then.

What is great is how younger generations are more considerate of labels, and will call their significant other their "partner(s)" instead of anything gender-specific. I wind up sounding so old and archaic when I refer to husband as "husband" now. :D
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
What is great is how younger generations are more considerate of labels, and will call their significant other their "partner(s)" instead of anything gender-specific. I wind up sounding so old and archaic when I refer to husband as "husband" now. :D
The term "partner" gets muddied for me because my parents were both partners in the business they had together, so they'd refer to each other as "partner" in THAT context.

My significant other and I have started referring to each other as "partner", though not because of gender. We're not married, so we don't call each other "husband" and "wife", but we feel like "boyfriend" and "girlfriend" don't properly capture our level of commitment to each other.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The term "partner" gets muddied for me because my parents were both partners in the business they had together, so they'd refer to each other as "partner" in THAT context.
Hmmm....reminds me of my parents, & the use of business titles. My father would call my mother "The Front Office". She was his excuse for not doing something he wanted to do....or not doing something he didn't want to do, but didn't want to take personal responsibility for avoiding it. It was an unhealthy attitude, btw.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
I'm 100 % sure that most bisexuals are not born that way. But lots of them admit themselves that they like to break the rules to have fun, sometimes.
Thanks to this very childish behavior, the entire gay category is not taken seriously.

besides they delude lots of gay people and lots of women everyday because of this ambiguous behavior.
why? because most of them are not bisexuals above board. what are they ashamed of?
they are ashamed maybe because they do know that theirs is transgression.

and by the way lots of women declare that they would be disgusted if they found out that their partner is aroused by the male organ and by the male body.

I quote my friend Ginnie: my boyfriend has to be a real man. He is supposed to strongly dislike the male body
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
I'm 100 % sure that most bisexuals are not born that way. But lots of them admit themselves that they like to break the rules to have fun, sometimes.

Are they different from anyone else in that particular?


Thanks to this very childish behavior, the entire gay category is not taken seriously.

Assuming that you are not being too literal (children are not born with much in the way of expressed sexuality, after all), how can you be so certain?


besides they delude lots of gay people and lots of women everyday because of this ambiguous behavior.
why? because most of them are not bisexuals above board. what are they ashamed of?
they are ashamed maybe because they do know that theirs is transgression.

What do you mean? Bisexuality is simple attraction to both genders. How could that possibly be transgression in and of itself?

Are you perhaps assuming that bisexuals are unfaithful?


and by the way lots of women declare that they would be disgusted if they found out that their partner is aroused by the male organ and by the male body.

I quote my friend Ginnie: my boyfriend has to be a real man. He is supposed to strongly dislike the male body

One would think actually being compatible with one's significant other to be far more important, wouldn't he?
 

MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
I'm 100 % sure that most bisexuals are not born that way. But lots of them admit themselves that they like to break the rules to have fun, sometimes.
Thanks to this very childish behavior, the entire gay category is not taken seriously.

Heterosexual and homosexual people engage in the same behavior as well.

besides they delude lots of gay people and lots of women everyday because of this ambiguous behavior.
why? because most of them are not bisexuals above board. what are they ashamed of?
they are ashamed maybe because they do know that theirs is transgression.

You're talking with bisexuals in this thread. Myself included. I'm not ashamed of my orientation.

and by the way lots of women declare that they would be disgusted if they found out that their partner is aroused by the male organ and by the male body.

That is an example of biphobia.

And I'm not disgusted. I've dated bisexual men before. They're people just like you and me.

I quote my friend Ginnie: my boyfriend has to be a real man. He is supposed to strongly dislike the male body

Another example of biphobia as well as homophobia. I disagree with your friend Ginnie. I am a woman, and one who is very attracted to men and to women.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Heterosexual and homosexual people engage in the same behavior as well.


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Lots of gay men would never sleep with a woman, not even under torture.

and I know lots of straight men who would prefer to be tortured rather than sleeping with men
 
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MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
Lots of gay men would never sleep with a woman, not even under torture.

and I know lots of straight men who would prefer be tortured rather than sleeping with men

That's orientation. Not childish behavior. And bisexuality isn't childish. It is an orientation.

My point was that monosexual people are not above acting childish.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
My point was that monosexual people are not above acting childish.
I was not speaking of those bisexuals who are born that way. I was speaking of straight men who sleep with other men out of transgression.

and by the way, I believe that a real man, by definition, is totally fond of the female beauty and dislikes the male one.

I just think that we cannot have our cake and eat it
 
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MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
I was not speaking of those bisexuals who are born that way. I was speaking of straight men who sleep with other men out of transgression.

What does "transgression" even mean?

and by the way, I believe that a real man, by definition, is totally fond of the female beauty and dislikes the male one.

Real man? Again, this is biphobic and homophobic to say that.

I just think that we cannot have our cake and eat it

In a thread about biphobia, I find your posts continuing to prove my point that it exists.
 

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
I'm 100 % sure that most bisexuals are not born that way. But lots of them admit themselves that they like to break the rules to have fun, sometimes.
Thanks to this very childish behavior, the entire gay category is not taken seriously.

besides they delude lots of gay people and lots of women everyday because of this ambiguous behavior.
why? because most of them are not bisexuals above board. what are they ashamed of?
they are ashamed maybe because they do know that theirs is transgression.

and by the way lots of women declare that they would be disgusted if they found out that their partner is aroused by the male organ and by the male body.

I quote my friend Ginnie: my boyfriend has to be a real man. He is supposed to strongly dislike the male body

How does being bisexual not make one a "real man"? That's kind of a low blow. I am definitely a real man, regardless of what genders I am attracted to. By "real man" I think you mean "straight man", but that doesn't make what you said sound any better.

I delude gay people? How so? Ambiguous behavior? What does that even mean Hay? it's ambiguous that I like men and women? Because I don't "choose a side"? This is definitely everyday biphobia right here... Nice, at least you showed a good example of it. I don't lie about the fact that I am bisexual to any of my partners, I never have, and all of them have been accepting of this fact.

My current girlfriend finds it arousing that I find men and women attractive, because she knows that it is not just about sex for me, it is about the person beneath the sex organs.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
How does being bisexual not make one a "real man"? That's kind of a low blow. I am definitely a real man, regardless of what genders I am attracted to. By "real man" I think you mean "straight man", but that doesn't make what you said sound any better.

I delude gay people? How so? Ambiguous behavior? What does that even mean Hay? it's ambiguous that I like men and women? Because I don't "choose a side"? This is definitely everyday biphobia right here... Nice, at least you showed a good example of it. I don't lie about the fact that I am bisexual to any of my partners, I never have, and all of them have been accepting of this fact.

My current girlfriend finds it arousing that I find men and women attractive, because she knows that it is not just about sex for me, it is about the person beneath the sex organs.

I really don't understand why you think I was speaking about bisexuals like you, who were born that way. as you said, you are interested in the person, regardless of their sex organs.
I was speaking about those people who do it to transgress
 

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
I really don't understand why you think I was speaking about bisexuals like you, who were born that way. as you said, you are interested in the person, regardless of their sex organs.
I was speaking about those people who do it to transgress

Even with that assumption aside. "real man", "ambiguous behavior"... These things are still pretty phobic and/or sexist.

Being gay does not preclude you from being phobic or sexist, FYI.
 
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